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I have this feeling I should obey this

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World is so evil many are not turning to God I don’t know why that is there is no way seems for me to change it so I believe better for me to join church as world does not care for me or rather I should not say me as I am not centre of attention but Christ but I may doubt there is salvation outside if people are refusing to come to Christ if they don’t care for Christ so I think to join church atleast to try to ensure I am saved. It could be others are saved so those who don’t believe will lose but I don’t know so I think best to join church incase. I can go to other churches also while I do if I can find a good church incase if I feel it helps me experience God fully and I find it helps influence others but if it doesn’t I think I should go to Orthodox Church.
 
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I decided it seems wise to return to Orthodox Church because incase I do not know because I could stumble others if they may not trust to give them to try and if I could know so I can not be accused to be wrong to mislead people that people should join to be sure and leave others to God who knows if they are accepted.

As orthodox claims to be true and you may not have opportunity to find the truth to be catholic so one could think it is risky to trust it if you can’t know but you seek to find the truth but you don’t have opportunity. Though it could be more wise to seek to see if there is truth in other churches now to know so you can trust it for others as they may not have opportunity but I could later. I think I should be seeking to follow Orthodox Church incase it can lead others to salvation and to encourage others to follow it seriously and if God wills for me to if I can not have opportunity to seek to experience 2 churches if to be safe I have to have been following Orthodox Church if I don’t have experience to follow other later.

As people have to learn to live without food and if that can only be in church with the communion it is best to join.

But I will seek to join other churches also if I find one to try to see if I can experience God fully and if I can know the truth for sure that God will prove it to me.
 
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I believe I need to trust God that He helps all who seek Him to follow Him and I need to focus on one church to show I am seriously looking for help and for others to really seek to help so I will follow just Christ. Because I believe we need to trust in Christ and that we all need to be following Christ so it is crucial to be seeking to help others follow Him. If anyone is worried he can join a church.
 
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I decided to return to the Orthodox Church as I do not know if I will find another church that I will experience God fully and to know and I think people deserve to know and can not risk if I can’t tell to mislead people it could be others are saved but I would like assurance I could seek after I follow Orthodox Church to know.
 
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I believe it is not right decision as many others need help and I should trust God and if others are worried they can join a church. I have to look for a church which is strong and able to help others. People have to be devoted to a church to follow Christ fully but since others may not trust me and I have not tried my church I think I should just accept to follow my church and see if I can prove truth there but if not to also go to other churches to see if I can experience God fully there.
 
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I believe I can trust the truth in Christ and I don’t need to go to church because I should trust the word of God as sufficient as that would be most just as people are not all able to go to a institutional church and also those who are persecuted do not have chance but can confess Christ which means God does not require church and I trust as God is just He judges on what is in people heart and not what beliefs they held to make a difference that if they believed in bible only He would accept. I believe God only looks to one commitment but if they are worried they can be baptised and have communion.I also believe it is wrong of me to judge people for seeking to trust in the church for them to be accepted not only to seek to follow it to try it but to trust your obedience to it or acceptance of it to save you. But even as people seek to follow church they must make sure they have relationship with Christ that they are following Him as that is really the only important thing. I believe I do not need church but I will go to church only to show that I have tried the church and it did not prove anything that I did not find a difference to know He is only in it which I can only conclude if by taking part in church life it is able to convince me it is just that you need it.
 
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I know already what to expect from church just propoganda and shaming to bring law against you to make you feel guilty but the purpose of the law was to bring you to Christ that you may be saved that you have power to keep what is written in the law. Church already has a standard many can not fulfill because it is too late which law does not require but whatever they say law requires you should learn to seek to fulfil but people need to be perfect so I do not believe church is right I can not be sure it justifies so I think it is right to trust in Christ and leave judgement of other Christians to Him. It is false to think church is right that it can accurately show you truth for i don’t believe it will ever be able to really make you believe it is just for God to be non accepting of those who did not believe it is God will for them to follow to know for sure it is right to follow or that it is good for it to be His will to follow and the church teaches they all needed to and others need it now. But I can go to church if it can convince but I think it can’t. So if it can’t I think people should trust only in Christ.
 
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Editing this post I thought of teaching new doctrine not eternal hell necessarily because I thought things maybe not fair I thought there was no one teaching the truth to know what is required to be saved that because Isaiah says God will wipe away tears from all faces and bible days death is destroyed that this means people can be saved afterwards but the truth is in the word of God and some we’re teaching it so there is no excuse.
I thought the truth was not known so no one could convince so I thought it might not be truth as truth should be salty as Jesus said if salt has lost its flavour it is good for nothing but to be trampled underfoot by men.
 
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I change my mind as I don’t believe the devil is saved as revelations says there was no longer a place in heaven found for them and people who are not saved are given the same judgement that was meant for him and in the holy city only those in the lamb book of life have a part in the city and he who adds to words in revelations God will add the plagues.
 
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I decided I will follow the Orthodox Church incase the church has truth though I believed the word of God is sufficient I did not turn out very good so I am wondering what is the case is it because I left the church and I do not feel much hope outside the church in others accepting me and how I could find hope if I can if I turned out like this so I think to join church I could join and seek to be closer to God but I think to join church now to be sure and I believe catholics are part of the church too if they cant know the truth except if they were orthodox maybe they need to follow the Orthodox Church as they should trust it is truth if you can’t prove catholic is true but it could be politics that they are also part of the church. I believe word of God could still be sufficient so if others do not follow they will lose but as I can not know and God may help me I think to follow church.
 
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I think incase if I join church God may show truth if I accept the church teaching and I should accept it incase I am wrong though I am not sure I am not as I believed it truly and I have had experiences but incase I am I think I should join church because maybe if I accept it God will use me to prove and even not but to use me it could help. But I plan to seek God too to reveal His will to me clearly to be used of Him.
 
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I believe it is not the solution for pain I am feeling because I think perhaps others would judge me and that would hinder gospel and because others may not trust me but maybe the problem is not them but I have to work on myself and I do not help as I think to convince others and it is not within my ability to or my job it is up to them to believe or to join church if they want but I should focus on growing with God to help reach others I can.
 
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I should not have spoken before to preach that I should question that that hell is eternal because it seeming not fair if others seemed like they did not know the consequences but they have heard before and they could know the truth if they sought.
 
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I believe it is wrong of me to speak for God that I can’t know and it may be as it says literally when it says hell is as it says never quenched and everlasting that it means unending and he who believes not the Son shall not see life but the wrath of God abides on him without end as we can’t know there is no proof so people should accept Christ because it could be literal and I can’t add to His words.
 
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I should not have question beliefs to please others to justify them to not respond just because I did not think people had been reached but they heard the truth and they have responsibility to accept it as it is truth they can not prove it is wrong God did not show them so they are without excuse because it shows they have no reason to deny it and If they did not want to accept it they should have tested it but since they can not prove it is wrong they have no excuse to deny it.
 
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There is no sacrifice available at all for those who do not continue in the faith abiding in Him truly it is not available for anyone who is not saved after they die.

Hebrews 10:26-39
26 For if we sin wilfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” [g]says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 32 But recall the former days in which, after you were [h]illuminated, you endured a great struggle with sufferings: 33 partly while you were made a spectacle both by reproaches and tribulations, and partly while you became companions of those who were so treated; 34 for you had compassion on me in my chains, and joyfully accepted the plundering of your [j]goods, knowing that you have a better and an enduring possession for yourselves [k]in heaven. 35 Therefore do not cast away your confidence, which has great reward. 36 For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise:
37 “For yet a little while,
And He[l] who is coming will come and will not [m]tarry.
38 Now the[n] just shall live by faith;
But if anyone draws back,
My soul has no pleasure in him.”
39 But we are not of those who draw back to [o]perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.

The below passage shows to depart from faith the true teaching to do so willingly when one knows it and not to repent would be crucifying Christ again for themselves but such crucifixion is temporary and does not atone for their sin He would not need to because if He did He would pay for their sin already when He was crucified.

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6 Therefore, (A)leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to [a]perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from (B)dead works and of faith toward God, 2 (C)of the doctrine of baptisms, (D)of laying on of hands, (E)of resurrection of the dead, (F)and of eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do if God permits.
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [c]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
 
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I believe since we can’t know the truth of churches if you need the church organisation which says it was established by apostles and all should seek to enter that church if they were orthodox to be orthodox if you are catholic and you don’t know truth it is not required you can be catholic for if you don’t you may die from God before any person kills you when you are not seeking to while you had opportunity or if you may need to have sought before there is a punishment to seek to follow the church organisation atleast to be accepting truth to seek to follow truth but those living need to be seeking the sacraments of the church perhaps before the time of tribulation to have strength to stand that if one has opportunity just before it happens you need the sacraments to be able to stand. Therefore I will seek to follow the orthodox church.
 
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