I have a question for christians...with a challenge

[Neghvar]

I love Animals, Respect people, Respect the world and the universe, i always offer assistance to people in need, i beleive the human race is equal and all deserve human rights, the right to education, free speach and freedom of religion. I donate to charity, if i see a homeless person i'll drop him a pound or 2. I generally love people and animals, Im virtually pacifist, would only resort to reasonable violence to protect myself, family and other people. I consider myself a good person.

(THIS PART YOU MIGHT FIND OFFENSIVE, I HOPE NOT, BUT I PREFER TO WARN)

Im am a Athiest. I support stem cell research. I beleive women have the right to abort. I believe in gay rights. I dislike christianity ( i dont dislike christians, but i dislike your religion aswell as many others ), and think your God is evil, sadistic, hypocritcal, destructive, no remorse, war monger, homophobic and just as evil if not more than your devil is.

QUESTION!

Am i going to hell?

CHALLENGE!!!!

Its a yes or no answer. No metaphors, No bible versus, no "Well but, no but, yeah but". Yes or No. I wont be offended if you say yes, im sure some of you will take joy in saying yes though. No beating around the bush, get straight to it my friends!!

 

[religious&reasonable]

I really haven't a clue at all. I don't think anyone does.

I know you don't want to hear this, but only God knows.

I disagree with some of your beliefs, but hey, who am I to judge.

 

[oi_antz]

I love Animals, Respect people, Respect the world and the universe, i always offer assistance to people in need, i beleive the human race is equal and all deserve human rights, the right to education, free speach and freedom of religion. I donate to charity, if i see a homeless person i'll drop him a pound or 2. I generally love people and animals, Im virtually pacifist, would only resort to reasonable violence to protect myself, family and other people. I consider myself a good person.

(THIS PART YOU MIGHT FIND OFFENSIVE, I HOPE NOT, BUT I PREFER TO WARN)

Im am a Athiest. I support stem cell research. I beleive women have the right to abort. I believe in gay rights.

These are your own opinions. When you begin saying it is God's opinion then you need to be corrected. As it is, you probably just haven't yet come to see it how God see's it.

I dislike christianity ( i dont dislike christians, but i dislike your religion aswell as many others ), and think your God is evil, sadistic, hypocritcal, destructive, no remorse, war monger, homophobic and just as evil if not more than your devil is.

Can you please quote the verses that give you that impression. I think you might be yet again failing to see the situation as God see's it. You can't judge God, He has a point of view that no-one else could possibly have. Furthermore, if you came to know God through Jesus then you wouldn't feel that way about Him. I think you listen too much to what Christians tell you and not enough to what God tells you. Just a hunch.

QUESTION!

Am i going to hell?

CHALLENGE!!!!

Its a yes or no answer. No metaphors, No bible versus, no "Well but, no but, yeah but". Yes or No. I wont be offended if you say yes, im sure some of you will take joy in saying yes though. No beating around the bush, get straight to it my friends!!

What about "I don't know"? Only Jesus holds the keys to hades, see:

Revelation 1:18 (New International Version, ©2011)

18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

If you don't want to go to hell, you just need to satisfy Jesus and He will plead your case to The Father. That means you need to get familiar with what Jesus expects of you. Ethics and morals aside, I would say He wants your love. There's a lot of people here who can help you with that, but you aren't going to find it until you give Him His rightful place in your life. That is, to accept what He tells you when you read The Bible. Best wishes with that, get stuck in!

 

[razeontherock]

QUESTION!

Am i going to hell?

CHALLENGE!!!!

Its a yes or no answer.

No one on this forum can possibly tell you that. NO part of Christianity is pretending to be able to Judge others. The fact that C's seem to have forgotten that might be part of what you dislike about Christianity?

 

[bsd31]

I love Animals, Respect people, Respect the world and the universe, i always offer assistance to people in need, i beleive the human race is equal and all deserve human rights, the right to education, free speach and freedom of religion. I donate to charity, if i see a homeless person i'll drop him a pound or 2. I generally love people and animals, Im virtually pacifist, would only resort to reasonable violence to protect myself, family and other people. I consider myself a good person.

(THIS PART YOU MIGHT FIND OFFENSIVE, I HOPE NOT, BUT I PREFER TO WARN)

Im am a Athiest. I support stem cell research. I beleive women have the right to abort. I believe in gay rights. I dislike christianity ( i dont dislike christians, but i dislike your religion aswell as many others ), and think your God is evil, sadistic, hypocritcal, destructive, no remorse, war monger, homophobic and just as evil if not more than your devil is.

QUESTION!

Am i going to hell?

CHALLENGE!!!!

Its a yes or no answer. No metaphors, No bible versus, no "Well but, no but, yeah but". Yes or No. I wont be offended if you say yes, im sure some of you will take joy in saying yes though. No beating around the bush, get straight to it my friends!!

Yes.

Reason: Good deeds do not save. Being a good person does not save. Your best works are just like menstrual rags compared to God's standards.

The caveat is that if you're reading this I assume you've not lived out all the days that God has given you on this earth. What happens between now and when you die will ultimately determine if you go to hell or not.

It's all on you and all up to you. The choice is yours to make. If you think somehow you'll like hell better then continue on as you are. If not you might want to rethink some things.

 

[Tim Myers]

"Am i going to hell?"

No offense, but in my opinion you are already there......

 

[andreha]

I love Animals, Respect people, Respect the world and the universe, i always offer assistance to people in need, i beleive the human race is equal and all deserve human rights, the right to education, free speach and freedom of religion. I donate to charity, if i see a homeless person i'll drop him a pound or 2. I generally love people and animals, Im virtually pacifist, would only resort to reasonable violence to protect myself, family and other people. I consider myself a good person.

(THIS PART YOU MIGHT FIND OFFENSIVE, I HOPE NOT, BUT I PREFER TO WARN)

Im am a Athiest. I support stem cell research. I beleive women have the right to abort. I believe in gay rights. I dislike christianity ( i dont dislike christians, but i dislike your religion aswell as many others ), and think your God is evil, sadistic, hypocritcal, destructive, no remorse, war monger, homophobic and just as evil if not more than your devil is.

QUESTION!

Am i going to hell?

CHALLENGE!!!!

Its a yes or no answer. No metaphors, No bible versus, no "Well but, no but, yeah but". Yes or No. I wont be offended if you say yes, im sure some of you will take joy in saying yes though. No beating around the bush, get straight to it my friends!!

Well, my friend - the truth is that if you continue to reject salvation, you'll never see heaven. God is actually very loving and kind once you get to know Him...

 

[jonsun80]

Why do you value these traits in the first place? through empathy alone? then I assume you were to some degree a sociopath until later in life when you accumulated enough wisdom to be socially decent? No, you subconsciously absorbed your moral archetypes through the power of a religious society already in place.

 

[Sketcher]

Yes. You hate God, so obviously you don't get to enjoy his presence. Not unless you repent.

 

[sterken7983]

I love Animals, Respect people, Respect the world and the universe, i always offer assistance to people in need, i beleive the human race is equal and all deserve human rights, the right to education, free speach and freedom of religion. I donate to charity, if i see a homeless person i'll drop him a pound or 2. I generally love people and animals, Im virtually pacifist, would only resort to reasonable violence to protect myself, family and other people. I consider myself a good person.

(THIS PART YOU MIGHT FIND OFFENSIVE, I HOPE NOT, BUT I PREFER TO WARN)

Im am a Athiest. I support stem cell research. I beleive women have the right to abort. I believe in gay rights. I dislike christianity ( i dont dislike christians, but i dislike your religion aswell as many others ), and think your God is evil, sadistic, hypocritcal, destructive, no remorse, war monger, homophobic and just as evil if not more than your devil is.

QUESTION!

Am i going to hell?

CHALLENGE!!!!

Its a yes or no answer. No metaphors, No bible versus, no "Well but, no but, yeah but". Yes or No. I wont be offended if you say yes, im sure some of you will take joy in saying yes though. No beating around the bush, get straight to it my friends!!

Yes, you are going to hell. Because you are a sinner, just like the rest of us.

And don't worry, God thinks the same things about you that you think about him so I can see why you choose hell because you two obviously wouldn't get along.

If you ever change your mind and think you may want to go to heaven, the offer will always be on the table from the God that you now hate. I only say this because He has a funny way of converting people like you. May God's Grace, Mercy and Understanding come unto you, brother.

 

[Neghvar]

Ok i think some of you got the wrong idea. I do not actually believe in hell or your god or any god, i was curious to see if you think somebody like me would go to hell just because I refuse to give my life to a murderous, self righteous bully and refuse to adopt any religion because every single religion is extremly flawed in logic, reason and human rights and science and Because i believe in gay rights and at the end of the day they are people not "Demonically possessed" and evil as you like to perceive them to be.

So far im just dissapointed in the whole "Yes you are but not if you repent". And god has a funny way of converting people like you LOL let me tell you something, in a completely parralel universe if god did exist, and i died and faced him before my judgement, i'd rather go to hell and burn for eternity and live in anguish and fear, and being tortured and raped by demons then give myself to a ^^ see paragraph one. I would spit in his face. What gives him the right to determine whats evil and whats not? he even goes against his 10 commandments. Hes a murderer. He murdered all the first born sons in egypt, flooded the earth drowning people for his own mistakes, animals, EVEN BABYS, BABYS DROWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 Do you like the idea of a baby drowning? gargling and trying to scream but cant and water filling up in its lungs, horrible way to die, can you imagine a baby trying to comprehend the suffering its going through? He destroyed the citys sodom and gommorah and killed everybody (including children, women, innocent men) because apparently the large majority was evil. He is sexist, racist (the jews are his chosen people), and a homophobe. Anybody he does not like or goes against him he wants destroyed or wiped out. this god guy sounds like a pathetic little crusader who has tantrums and has to convince people to worship him for a eternity reward or eternity punishemnt. He likes to spit his dummy out the pram.

 

[PintoBean]

Yes

 

[razeontherock]

Ok i think some of you got the wrong idea.

This is an ironic statement coming from you. Let's see how many wrong ideas you express, just in one post:

somebody like me would go to hell just because I refuse to give my life to a murderous, self righteous bully

#1. Nobody says or even thinks that.

Because i believe in gay rights and at the end of the day they are people not "Demonically possessed" and evil as you like to perceive them to be.

#2. Absolutely no aspect of Christianity opposes gay rights.

i died and faced him before my judgement, i'd rather go to hell and burn for eternity and live in anguish and fear, and being tortured and raped by demons then give myself to a ... I would spit in his face.

#3. You think He has a face to spit in.

What gives him the right to determine whats evil and whats not?

#4. You fail to understand what is meant by using the word "God."

Doesn't stop you from talking about it, making up your own false ideas, and hating what you construct. May I suggest this is not a healthy preoccupation?

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drowning people for his own mistakes

#5. You think G-d makes mistakes.

Do you like the idea of a baby drowning? gargling and trying to scream but cant and water filling up in its lungs, horrible way to die

MUCH less horrible than death by abortion, which IIRC you support.

He destroyed the citys sodom and gommorah and killed everybody (including children, women, innocent men)

#6. You think anybody in S & G was innocent.

He is a homophobe.

G-d fears nothing. The other things you said in conjunction here are also wrong, but I won't even attempt to address you on those.

Anybody he does not like or goes against him he wants destroyed or wiped out.

#7. Why didn't he "wipe satan out," as you put it? Oh that's right, it's because you're idea here is false.

 

[Neghvar]

This is an ironic statement coming from you. Let's see how many wrong ideas you express, just in one post:.

#1. Nobody says or even thinks that. [/quote]

What nobody on this website/forum?


[/quote] #2. Absolutely no aspect of Christianity opposes gay rights. [/quote]

Yeah ok mate that makes sence whatever you say

[/quote] #3. You think He has a face to spit in. [/quote]

I dont care if he has a face or not according to scripture. I dont believe it exists so i'll make up the hypothosis that he wears a baseball cap with sun glasses and has a giant kangaroo for a steed

[/quote] #4. You fail to understand what is meant by using the word "God." [/quote]

No i think i understand perfectly actually

[/quote] Doesn't stop you from talking about it, making up your own false ideas, and hating what you construct. May I suggest this is not a healthy preoccupation?

[/quote]

I dont make up anything, do i sence some butthurt?

[/quote] #5. You think G-d makes mistakes. [/quote]

No comment


[/quote]MUCH less horrible than death by abortion, which IIRC you support.[/quote]

I only think abortion is ok if its medically nessacery, emotionally nessacery, not for selfish reasons, eg "Damn we booked our holiday/vacation when the baby is due, lets get it aborted so we dont have to re schedule". How can you prove its a less horrible death than abortion? thats not even the point [/quote]



[/quote] #6. You think anybody in S & G was innocent. [/quote]

lolwhat


[/quote]G-d fears nothing. The other things you said in conjunction here are also wrong, but I won't even attempt to address you on those. [/quote]

I dont mean he fears gay people im speaking more of hate. Homophobia is not nessacery being scared of em, you see a gay parade in the street would you freeze in fear? no



[/quote] #7. Why didn't he "wipe satan out," as you put it? Oh that's right, it's because you're idea here is false. [/quote]

Sorry but i dont care about faulty inconsistency that is the bible. Even muslims and jews have pointed out several flaws in the bible.

P.S Yes im aware i dont know how to correctly use the qoute feature​

 

[Emmy]

Dear neghvar. God`s eternal Law of Justice will give you rewards for all the good you do. ( We will reap what we sow) Jesus died for all, including you, and like everyone else we have free will to choose our eternity: with God or without God. Since we do not know how long we will live on this Earth, you will have much time to change your mind. God is Love and promised us: " Whosoever will may come." All you have to do is REPENT, change your selfish and unloving character Into: loving God with all your being, and loving your neighbour as yourself. If you stay stubborn till the very end, you will find yourself in a place in Outer Darkness, without God`s Love or Light. I say this with love, neghvar. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ. P.S. Jesus pleaded for you and others like you: " Father forgive them for they do not know what they do."

 

[Frumious]

I can say that you come across as intentionally offensive, arrogant, pompass, and prejudiced; however I find you interesting and enjoy your rhetoric. I hope you keep posting at christianforums.com.

 

[Neghvar]

Mate if i wanted to be offensive i would of done first post and i would of been IP banned by now, either tell me why i came across as intentionally offenive, aggorant, pompass and prejudiced, or man up

 

[razeontherock]

Sorry but i dont care about faulty inconsistency that is the bible.

So when glaring errors are exposed in your thinking you defend that with "well the Bible does it too?" More irony

 

[Frumious]

Mate if i wanted to be offensive i would of done first post and i would of been IP banned by now, either tell me why i came across as intentionally offenive, aggorant, pompass and prejudiced, or man up

I chose the latter!

 

[oi_antz]

Phew! I guess some people really do hate God! Sorry to hear all this Neghvar, it sounds like you've really been hurt. If there was anything I could say to help, I would pray for God to say it to you so the spit and foam would stay in your mouth. It's obvious that you have the wrong end of the stick. If at any time you want to get a handle on Christianity and find yourself repenting of such negativity, then you'll find we don't hold grudges about things like that and it's actually a pleasure to help someone who is pleasant to speak with.