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Featured I don't think I'm saved

Discussion in 'Requests for Christian Advice' started by ArmouredGeddon1996, Jan 22, 2021.

  1. ArmouredGeddon1996

    ArmouredGeddon1996 New Member

    United Kingdom
    I've recently come to a recent relevation that I don't that I'm saved. I want to have a relationship with God, and I want to read the bible more. But I don't that I am currently saved and that I am going to hell. I prayed the coming to faith prayer, but I don't believe that it worked. Since then I've been living in complete disobedience to God by watching porn, and I feel like I've acted like a complete moron. I want to have a better relationship with God, and started to read the bible, but I just feel guilty when I read it, and I just feel total doom, waking up in the middle of the night in just total panic. I want to have a relationship with God, but I don't know whether it's possible?
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  2. Maria Billingsley

    Maria Billingsley Well-Known Member Supporter

    United States
    In Relationship
    Welcome ! Do you love Him?
  3. mlepfitjw

    mlepfitjw May you be blessed!

    United States
  4. xaris

    xaris Active Member

    United States
    The only way I know of entering a relationship with God, is to come to terms with the fact that you are a sinner facing God's judgment (I believe you have done that), then believe the Good News that God sent His Son to take the punishment you deserve and freely robe you in His Son's righteousness, which none of us deserve.
    Remember, it's not your prayers that save you, but rather His Son Jesus Christ.
  5. Dave G.

    Dave G. Well-Known Member

    United States
    Salvation is simple, it's belief and confessing with your mouth, and by the grace of God you are saved. That's doctrinal truth. But if you don't live in that and practice in it your experience seems otherwise. God hasn't gone anywhere, start walking in the truth of your salvation. What I'm speaking of is called positional truth vs experiential truth. See it's true you don't believe you are saved when in actual positional truth you may very well be. You aren't experiencing the fruits of your salvation because of your walk. So start walking with Him instead of against Him.
  6. d taylor

    d taylor Well-Known Member

    United States
    If you believe that Jesus is the promised Messiah from the prophecies of The Tanakh and have trusted in The Messiah for God's free gift of Eternal Life. Then you have received God's free gift of Eternal Life.

    Never to lose it. You have salvation.
  7. DiscipleHeLovesToo

    DiscipleHeLovesToo Regular Member Supporter

    United States
    (Rom 10:4) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
    (Rom 10:5) For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
    (Rom 10:6) But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above) ;
    (Rom 10:7) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
    (Rom 10:8) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
    (Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
    (Rom 10:10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    salvation isn't about saying a certain prayer, it's about elevating God's Word above every other report - including experiences and feelings.

    if you need to turn around on the interstate, you don't instantly come to a stop, turn around, and then instantly be at full speed in the opposite direction; you have to turn onto an exit, stop, turn left, go perpendicular to your desired direction across the bridge over the interstate, then turn left and accelerate in the right direction - on some exits, you have to ride in a couple of circles to get pointed in the right direction - don't be moved by your poor performance; all you have to do is believe God that He wants to save you more than even you want to be saved, trust the resurrected Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and then profess that (and only that) with your mouth.

    read Romans - the first 7 chapters describe the futile effort of trying to qualify for salvation by eliminating all sin; the remainder of Romans explains how to simply believe that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, and profess this while God works with you as you include him in your daily life - salvation is based on a relationship with God as Father and Friend, Savior and LORD - He will direct your steps if you trust Him and follow His directions in His Word, and this will reduce sin in your life. also read Ephesians and Hebrews - major on these and the letters to the churches, and His Words will push the desire for sin out of you.

    if you've chosen to believe that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, and that He rose from the dead (so that you could as well), then obey Him; and trust in the scriptures above (Hid Word) - profess that with your mouth, and never say again that you don't believe you are saved; because His Word does not change.
  8. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

    United States
    In Relationship
    There is a tragic amount of bad theology out there that would have Christians believe that "getting saved" is about some super special intimate experience with God, and that it means our lives are going to get better through some kind of moral progress.

    So you find yourself failing and sinning, but of course this is completely normal, because you're a sinner. Just like I'm a sinner. Just like everyone is a sinner.

    If our salvation depended on us living righteously in accordance with God's commandments then it would mean that nobody is saved, that nobody ever has been saved, and that nobody ever can be saved.

    I placed that last statement in bold, because I really want you to read it and process that.

    And I'm going to say something that possibly might ruffle some feathers: It's not about you having a relationship with God.

    But before anyone jumps on me, allow myself to explain.

    God is not sitting somewhere in a room waiting for us to navigate the long hallway, finding all the right keys and which keys fit with the right doors so that we can eventually unlock all the obstacles and make our way to God. That's not it at all.

    God isn't sitting in a room waiting for us to come to Him.
    God comes to us.

    God comes down and meets us right here in the thick and ugly of our sin and disobedience. God comes right down here where we are, in all of our horrific wretchedness, and then says, "You belong to Me".

    God does not find something lovely and acceptable to Himself
    God goes out of His way to find that which is unlovely and make it acceptable.

    He sent Jesus Christ, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried, risen on the third day.

    God comes down. God always comes down.

    God came down in the Incarnation, God became man, God suffered and died for you. Jesus Christ died for you.

    Don't take that lightly and then think "Yes Jesus died for me, but Jesus died for everyone". Jesus died for you. Yes Christ died for everyone, but for each and every specific individual, for them as individuals. Each and every person. That means Jesus died for you.

    Do you think He who bore the weight of Calvary's cross does not know you? He knows you, He knows you better than you do. He knows your thoughts, He knows your struggles, He knows your afflictions. He knows you, from the day you breathed your first cry out of the womb, to the day you take your last breath. He knows you.

    That cross is where you died with Him.
    That cross is where your sins died too.

    Do you believe this? Believe it! Trust it! This is the Gospel.

    He is Jesus Christ the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. That means you.

  9. Religiot

    Religiot Well-Known Member

    United States
    It is possible, for anyone--just believe: just believe that through Christ you are reconciled to God, that is, God sees you through Christ, thus you are holy to God, because of Christ.

    That is the good news: you can have peace with God because of the sacrifice of Christ!

    God gave Christ to the world, so that it, through Christ, could be saved. --Christ is the gift of God, thus He cannot be earned.

    You will still sin, but I assure you, from experience, the more you try to please God, the easier He makes it, and the sins that once had dominion over you, will only become distant reminders of who you used to be and a deeper realizations of who you are becoming.

    It's not a magic trick, but a very natural process that only requires you to try, and God will do the rest. Like Peter, who did a very sorry job of walking on water, yet he did walk on water, but when he immediately failed, the Lord did not let him drown, but was there to save him.

    He only wants us to try, He will do the rest.

    By His grace we our saved, through our faith; eternal life is the gift of God, so there is nothing we can do to earn it--it must be received freely, for it is a gift, and no true gift can be given, but freely.

    Accept His gift, and keep it, which is only possible by faith.

    Faith is belief and works, both of which can be very small, but God will give the increase: just try, and He promises to do the rest.
  10. ArmouredGeddon1996

    ArmouredGeddon1996 New Member

    United Kingdom
    Yes, but at the same time, I know that I don't love him nearly enough as I should do. I know that I haven't always properly loved Jesus, and that I treated his death on the cross with contempt, I was baptised in water, but I kept on purposefully sinning without caring, and used Jesus' death as a get out of hell free card.
  11. DiscipleHeLovesToo

    DiscipleHeLovesToo Regular Member Supporter

    United States
    (1Ti 1:12) And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;
    (1Ti 1:13) Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
    (1Ti 1:14) And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
    (1Ti 1:15) This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    the man that penned most of the New Testament wrote that, so you're in good company; don't punish yourself for what the Lord has already paid for, but rather humble yourself and agree with Him that in spite of your faults and failures, you have been MADE RIGHTEOUS by Jesus' blood!!!

    (Rom 5:12) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
    (Rom 5:13) (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
    (Rom 5:14) Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
    (Rom 5:15) But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
    (Rom 5:16) And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
    (Rom 5:17) For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
    (Rom 5:18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
    (Rom 5:19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
    (Rom 5:20) Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
    (Rom 5:21) That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
  12. Maria Billingsley

    Maria Billingsley Well-Known Member Supporter

    United States
    In Relationship
    Oh yes hypocrisy. I went through that stage myself. Fornication was my sin for many years until my love for Him took over the lust of my flesh. It actually happened rather quickly too, almost like a light was turned on. I had quenched the work of His Holy Spirit believing the same as you, that it does not matter what I do, I am saved. Once I realized the error of my way, the Holy Spirit worked in me. He will work in you as well. He will not abandon you. Be blessed.
  13. A_Thinker

    A_Thinker Well-Known Member Supporter

    Relationship with God is for the asking. At the point of asking, God adopts you as His child. He makes you into a new person, places His Spirit within you, and begins to complete His work to conform you to His will.

    From that point on is a process of growth, where we become more and more like our Father, which means that we should sin less, and love more each day.

    The process can take a long time, and there may be periods where we don't feel close to God.

    But remember, most of all, God wants to love us and forgive us, even when we fall down ...
  14. Albion

    Albion Facilitator

    Reading the Bible should show you that it is possible. But how to do it?

    Begin by realizing that you sin, I sin, we all sin. The point about being saved is not that we have made ourselves perfect and so deserve salvation, but that God has made it possible for us to be saved despite our faults. That presumes, of course, that we both try our best to follow the paths of righteousness and also trust God to save us as Christ promised his followers.
  15. ChristServant

    ChristServant Active Member

    United Kingdom

    If you truly want a relationship with GOD first you have to see yourself as GOD does. Look to the Ten Commandments and you will see, you are a sinner. The Ten Commandments should help you to see that you have sinned and that your sins are against GOD Himself.

    Once this realisation has dawned upon you, you should start to feel a sense of shame and sorrow for the sins you’ve committed. This shame and sorrow will be magnified when you understand that Christ took these sins YOU committed on Himself and suffered greatly.

    If you are genuine about becoming a child of GOD you will truly repent of those sins committed(this means to change your ways and turn from sin) and ask GOD for forgiveness. Then put your faith fully in Christ and His sacrifice for those sins. Once you have accepted the Salvation sent forth in Christ for your sins from GOD, according to Scripture you should be baptised.

    After you have gone through the above you will notice as time goes by that you begin to think and act differently and will be convicted of any sin you commit, whereas before you were born again there was, no conviction of sin.

    Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him

    We no longer look to be served. We look to serve and give our lives for others. No longer fight for privilege, influence and status. We esteem others better than ourselves and put their interests above our own.

    Peace be with all those in the body of Christ
  16. tdidymas

    tdidymas Newbie

    I've been a Christian since 1975, but I remember my first year as if it was just a couple of years ago. I was very fearful, and felt the wrath of God hanging over my head. I felt condemned in every page of the Bible I read. I was also addicted to porn and a few other things. It certainly wasn't the ideal life.

    But over the years, I learned correct doctrine and how to relate to God, and obtained the permanent peace I was searching for. Enduring faithfully with Christ is a matter of being in this life for the long haul. Every problem we have with God is a problem at our end, not at His end. We just need to get to know God and how He works.

    There are 4 major and basic Christian disciplines which I followed, and I recommend you follow in your continued walk with Christ:
    1. Bible reading and study which includes memorizing some of it.
    2. Fellowship with other Christians.
    3. Praying to God on a daily basis, even if it is "please help!"
    4. Participation in public worship.

    Paul wrote to the Corinthians: "in due time you will reap, if you faint not." In other words, you will begin to see a better life both in your inner feelings and in your practices, if you stay on the path. You have to learn that right feelings follow the practice of your faith, and then you will start to see how your feelings have been leading you astray.

    Prov. 4:25-27:
    Let your eyes look directly ahead
    And let your gaze be fixed straight in front of you.
    Watch the path of your feet
    And all your ways will be established.
    Do not turn to the right nor to the left;
    Turn your foot from evil.
  17. ArmouredGeddon1996

    ArmouredGeddon1996 New Member

    United Kingdom
    Hi Maria,

    Thank you for your reply. I wonder whether there is any advice on how you come back to God and are there any steps which you would suggest taking so that I can have a renewed relationship with Christ?
  18. Maria Billingsley

    Maria Billingsley Well-Known Member Supporter

    United States
    In Relationship
    You have been baptized in water now it is time to be baptized in His Holy Spirit. Simply ask Him. Be blessed.
  19. FutureAndAHope

    FutureAndAHope Just me Supporter

    You can have a relationship with God. The cross covers a lifetime of errors. However, you will need to deal with your porn issue. The bible tells us:

    Mar 14:38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.

    As we spend time in prayer the Holy Spirit strengthens us, causes us to desire less sin. I would suggest you spend more time in prayer, and bible reading each day. It will give you power over your desires.
  20. Charmy

    Charmy New Member

    South Africa
    Remember Jesus died for all sinners.