I don't know what to tell them..

[WeblogAlice]

I have asked a few other Christians and looked up the verses they gave me and concluded that homosexuality is a sin. I just have so many people I communicate with including siblings that think I still support it when I don't. I am unsure What to say when they ask me my opinion on it or What to say when I tell them I will only date males and ignore being attracted to females, that I will no longer identify as bisexual or pansexual. Does anyone have any advice on How I should respond when these topics are brought up to me? I'm worried they will dislike and ignore me

 

[REPHAIAHPEDAHEL]

So you crave being liked and you crave attention?

 

[WeblogAlice]

So you crave being liked and you crave attention?

No I don't crave attention. I have no idea How you got that from What I said. I just do not want the people I care for to dislike or even hate me

 

[REPHAIAHPEDAHEL]

Give them your opinion, they don't have to like your opinion to like you! If they dislike you or ignore you because of your opinion, it is their loss.

 

[AndrewK9]

Tim Keller on how to treat homosexuals - YouTube

 

[WeblogAlice]

Tim Keller on how to treat homosexuals - YouTube

I can not watch this video right now but when I can I will

 

[amandatea]

I have asked a few other Christians and looked up the verses they gave me and concluded that homosexuality is a sin. I just have so many people I communicate with including siblings that think I still support it when I don't. I am unsure What to say when they ask me my opinion on it or What to say when I tell them I will only date males and ignore being attracted to females, that I will no longer identify as bisexual or pansexual. Does anyone have any advice on How I should respond when these topics are brought up to me? I'm worried they will dislike and ignore me

Hi Alice

First of all, I was one of the commentors in the other thread, as I'm sure you realize. I just wanted to say that I hope that nothing I said hurt you. I always try to treat people with love and respect, no matter who they are. But I also strive to help others learn truth (and in so doing, I study truth myself - because of course, I don't know it all).

Anyway, I have a question. Is this something that comes up regularly comes up? Or are you just preparing for the chance that it may come up? I suggest not living in denial, but if you're completely convicted on this issue, then tell those who ask, the truth, and why.

About your worry that they will dislike or ignore you.

Romans 12:2 ESV
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.


Colossians 2:8 ESV
See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

1 John 3:13 ESV
Do not be surprised, brothers, that the world hates you.
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This is to say: don't worry. I know it is very difficult to be rejected by those you like and care about, but in my experience, if they love you, truly, they will respect your beliefs and decisions. If they shun you based on this decision that you have made, then they don't truly care about you in the first place. While that is hard to go through, it is something that, for me anyway, makes one stronger. I've had many "friends" - even ones who I was sure were my best friends - disappear from my life because of my beliefs changing. It's not something that has devastated me.

The most important thing is to have our identity in Jesus. He can get us through all of the trials and challenges of life.

God bless you.

 

[WeblogAlice]

Hi Alice

First of all, I was one of the commentors in the other thread, as I'm sure you realize. I just wanted to say that I hope that nothing I said hurt you. I always try to treat people with love and respect, no matter who they are. But I also strive to help others learn truth (and in so doing, I study truth myself - because of course, I don't know it all).

Anyway, I have a question. Is this something that comes up regularly comes up? Or are you just preparing for the chance that it may come up? I suggest not living in denial, but if you're completely convicted on this issue, then tell those who ask, the truth, and why.

About your worry that they will dislike or ignore you.

Romans 12:2 ESV
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Colossians 2:8 ESV
See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

1 John 3:13 ESV
Do not be surprised, brothers, that the world hates you.


This is to say: don't worry. I know it is very difficult to be rejected by those you like and care about, but in my experience, if they love you, truly, they will respect your beliefs and decisions. If they shun you based on this decision that you have made, then they don't truly care about you in the first place. While that is hard to go through, it is something that, for me anyway, makes one stronger. I've had many "friends" - even ones who I was sure were my best friends - disappear from my life because of my beliefs changing. It's not something that has devastated me.

The most important thing is to have our identity in Jesus. He can get us through all of the trials and challenges of life.

God bless you.

Don't worry you didn't hurt me. It has come up but I usually just change the subject or ignore it

 

[Hospes]

I have asked a few other Christians and looked up the verses they gave me and concluded that homosexuality is a sin. I just have so many people I communicate with including siblings that think I still support it when I don't. I am unsure What to say when they ask me my opinion on it or What to say when I tell them I will only date males and ignore being attracted to females, that I will no longer identify as bisexual or pansexual. Does anyone have any advice on How I should respond when these topics are brought up to me? I'm worried they will dislike and ignore me

First, kudos to you for looking honestly at the scripture, become convinced of what it instructs, and then conforming your life to it. That is wisdom.

Second, some friends love you in spite of your differences, i.e. you truly accept one another just as the Bible encourages us to do. These are the ones you want to value highly, love back, honor, and be sensitive toward. Other friends are friends because the friendship is founded on some commonality. (E. g. fishing buddies, drinking buddies, jogging partner, etc.) These are great, but when you lose what you have in common, you must accept that the friendship will take a hit. Some times you can move the second type friendship toward the first type by gently encouraging their acceptance of your differences and highlighting and growing other aspects of your friendship.

Hope this helps.

 

[OntheHorizon]

I have asked a few other Christians and looked up the verses they gave me and concluded that homosexuality is a sin. I just have so many people I communicate with including siblings that think I still support it when I don't. I am unsure What to say when they ask me my opinion on it or What to say when I tell them I will only date males and ignore being attracted to females, that I will no longer identify as bisexual or pansexual. Does anyone have any advice on How I should respond when these topics are brought up to me? I'm worried they will dislike and ignore me

remember that you did what you felt was right and that is a very good thing. focus on that GOOD thing and be proud. your true friends will not abandon you or be angry over disagreements. fear is never a good thing. the cry of your heart is more impirtant than what intolerant people think. if they love you it won't matter. be proud of your decision to do what you believed was right and don't let someone who disagrees remove that goodness. your following your heart so smile.

 

[OntheHorizon]

No I don't crave attention. I have no idea How you got that from What I said. I just do not want the people I care for to dislike or even hate me

friend that is not people who love each other do. that shouldn't be possible.

 

[theophilus40]

You might be able to find the help you need on this site:

Welcome to TfT | True freedom Trust

True freedom Trust (TfT) is a confidential Christian support and teaching ministry for men and women who accept the Bible's prohibition of same-sex practice and yet are aware of same-sex attractions, or struggle with other sexual and relational issues. We also offer support to families, friends and church leaders of those who face these issues in their lives. Click on About us to find out more about TfT and click Contact TfT to get in touch.

Other people must have experienced the same problem and you might find something here about how they solved it.

 

[WeblogAlice]

You might be able to find the help you need on this site:

Welcome to TfT | True freedom Trust

Other people must have experienced the same problem and you might find something here about how they solved it.

Thank you

 

[sdowney717]

Following your own heart, meaning your will, leads you to death.
Just like in the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve choose after being provoked by the enemy of their soul, Satan, to disobey and not believe what God had said.

So then follow after His heart, cause He takes your hand and leads you to ever lasting life.

By nature men's hearts are wicked regarding the truth of how God wants them to come to Him.

Jeremiah 17
5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.

6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.

7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is.

8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.

9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

10 I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

God after the flood of Noah says this about men

Gen 8
20 Then Noah built an altar to the Lord, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21 And the Lord smelled a soothing aroma. Then the Lord said in His heart, “I will never again curse the ground for man’s sake, although the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done.

22 “While the earth remains,
Seedtime and harvest,
Cold and heat,
Winter and summer,
And day and night
Shall not cease.”

Regarding not knowing what to say, just tell them the truth of Jesus Christ in your life.
And if they reject you for it, know that they also have already rejected Him as well. But if they accept it as true, then perhaps you have won them for God's kingdom. And that is an excellent thing to do telling people what is true.

 

[manitouscott]

I know from experience that many homosexuals don't agree with the hetero lifestyle, the ones they refer to as "breeders". Many (not all) don't agree with child rearing being a priority in a relationship. And of course, most homosexuals do not agree with Christianity and the christian lifestyle.

Do they worry about letting us know what they feel? In my experience, no they do not, they are outright blatant about their beliefs.

So why do we hesitate? THEY have more to gain from our message i.e. eternal life, than we have to gain from theirs.

That being said, I have had healthy productive relationships with homosexuals in the workplace despite our differences. You never know when the least little thing you say may influence someone to change, so it never hurts to make your position known in a loving way and do not fear to profess Christ.

God bless you.

 

[humblewatchman]

Love your friends and hate the sin.. Stand up for Gods Word and His desires for us no matter what the cost, just as Jesus did. Do not look down on any of your friends who are in this sin at all, for that is the Way of the Lord. At the "same time" know that you and your brothers and sisters in this world, all have some kind of sin in their lives. The Word says, no one is without sin (Romans 3:10 "As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;") We who walk in the Light, are all seen by the Father through His Son's sacrifice...his blood...when He looks at you and me and all of your friends He sees righteousness even though we all sin. Why should you do anything less? Cultivate and speak from the loving heart of Christ and you cannot go wrong.

 

[OntheHorizon]

sdowney

the bible said there is a WAY that leads to death but not all ways do. Paul said we are new creatures and that the ways of god are no longer written on stones or in books they written in and on our HEARTS. Paul said in Romans that there people outside of god follow the ways of god by nature itself. The bible says that our spirit is the candle or light of god. It is silly to tell people to not follow their heart. The NT way is to no onger need stones and books but TO FOLLOW YOUR HEART.

It is a tactic of incompetent selfish preachers to refuse people the right follow their own hearts its simply a way of refusing people the right to think for their selves or disagree.

 

[WeblogAlice]

I had to tell my friend How I wasn't going to try and identify as pansexual anymore. He claimed I am like an old woman when it comes to religion and to choose my own path. Nothing I say is making a difference. I feel a little bad about it

 

[Spunkn]

You can't change how your friends or other people will react. All you can do is control how you react and what you believe. It doesn't matter what your friends believe, it matters what you believe.

 

[WeblogAlice]

You can't change how your friends or other people will react. All you can do is control how you react and what you believe. It doesn't matter what your friends believe, it matters what you believe.

That's true