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I never said that no one adopts them, and that is great that you did. But you have to understand your the minority, so are my parents for the fact that they adopted an interacial girl.
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As the mother of two children adopted through the foster care system, who yes btw were both special needs, I'd have to disagree. See avatar picture to see just how "perfect" they are.
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Since we're all "former unborn humans" I would think that it really isn't needed to bring this up. *grin*
I am glad that you found a loving home to adopt you. I know many wonderful people who have been adopted, and hope to adopt myself someday. It's always wonderful to hear good stories about people who have been adopted, since the news basically only shows people the horror stories!
But we all have our trials, too.
And many Pro-Choicers don't really understand the opinions of Pro-Lifers. Personally, I think it's because we each look at a different human in the equation first - Pro-Choicers think about what the pregnant woman must be going through, then consider the unborn human - Pro-Lifers think about the unborn human, then think about the pregnant woman.
There's really a lot involved in the issue of abortion. But, I feel, it comes down to the Right to Bodily Integrity and the Right to Life. Each side feels that one of these rights trumps the other, and we can't come to an agreement on which should "win". And either right "winning" could have major consequences in all aspects of society.
Sort of an aside (like anything I've said hasn't been *wink*), but I really find the term "anti-choice" offensive. I feel that you might also, though I know that some people who are Pro-Life don't find it that way. I think that it's important for both sides to try to treat the other with respect, which is why I use the "positive" of "Pro-Choice" and "Pro-Life". I think that calling either side by a term that isn't the preferred one is just a put down, personally.
Personally, I feel you're oversimplifying the matter. Far more women in this country choose to keep their pregnancies than to abort, so plenty of children are still being born.
It sort of horrifies me to think that some people would take away the right of pregnant women to control their own bodies, by having the government force them to remain pregnant. I know how horrible it is to have someone force me to give up control of my own body (so, of course, I'm pretty biased on the matter), and it isn't something that I would wish on anyone. To me, that is the bottom line - I feel it is unethical for the government (or anyone else) to take away the right to control one's own body from anyone, even with the best of intentions.
And yet the Bible does not once condemn abortion (it even says that God used it - against unborn "first-born" sons of Egypt). So we don't really know exactly how Jesus would have felt about abortion (since it seems that different Christians do feel different ways about the matter - and we can assume that most of them have discussed the matter with God).
Since we're all "former unborn humans" I would think that it really isn't needed to bring this up. *grin*
we are also all former eggs and sperm... does that make periods or male masturbation the same as "killing"?Actually this is the most salient point.
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guess what? They have abortion in other countries too!could someone please explain to me how abortion is protected under the fourth amendment? the Roe V. Wade decision is perhaps one of the most disturbing supreme court decisions in US history. How our founding document could be interpreted the way the court ruled is beyond me.
a women's period and male nocturnal emissions happen naturally. I don't see how you could draw a conclusion like this. especially since we aren't a cannot develope into a complete human until egg and sperm come together.we are also all former eggs and sperm... does that make periods or male masturbation the same as "killing"?
the point is, it should be up to individual states to decide the legality of abortion. that being said, I'm all for legislation banning abortion nationwide.guess what? They have abortion in other countries too!
Since there wasn't a human being involved, no.we are also all former eggs and sperm... does that make periods or male masturbation the same as "killing"?
abortions happen naturally too. of all fertilised eggs, only 11% will ever be carried to term.a women's period and male nocturnal emissions happen naturally. I don't see how you could draw a conclusion like this. especially since we aren't a cannot develope into a complete human until egg and sperm come together.
that whole "abortions happen in other countries too" just kinda bounced off your parochialism, didn't it?the point is, it should be up to individual states to decide the legality of abortion. that being said, I'm all for legislation banning abortion nationwide.
There isn't a human being involved in abortions eitherSince there wasn't a human being involved, no.
abortions happen naturally too. of all fertilised eggs, only 11% will ever be carried to term.
that whole "abortions happen in other countries too" just kinda bounced off your parochialism, didn't it?
I consider a human being to be in existence when its genome is complete and it is growing. That you choose other subjective benchmarks is your problem. Sadly its also the problem of thousands of killed human beings as well.There isn't a human being involved in abortions either
The cognitive dissonance in that statement actually made me laugh. Wow.
I don't think God regards you as a human being until you are capable of regarding yourself as anythingMedically, yes there is. Legally, no. Which one do you think God looks at?
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So... the instant the egg is fertilised, you consider it a human being?I consider a human being to be in existence when its genome is complete and it is growing. That you choose other subjective benchmarks is your problem. Sadly its also the problem of thousands of killed human beings as well.
Yes.So... the instant the egg is fertilised, you consider it a human being?
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