I don’t know what to do

[SerenityA]

I feel like I have done so much in my life that now I no longer have a pastor is it possible that God wants me all alone with no pastor and no spiritual leader like a pastor ?

 

[PloverWing]

Can you clarify your question? Do you mean that your current pastor has left your church, or that you don't feel like you belong in your church any more, or that you've outgrown what your church can teach you, or something else?

 

[SerenityA]

Can you clarify your question? Do you mean that your current pastor has left your church, or that you don't feel like you belong in your church any more, or that you've outgrown what your church can teach you, or something else?

I think God no longer wants me to have a pastor at all but I’m not sure ? I think he wants me to go straight to him

 

[d taylor]

Well that would be from The Bible, as the revelation has been given.

 

[SerenityA]

Well that would be from The Bible, as the revelation has been given.

Huh? What are you saying ?

 

[NBB]

'Don't stop congregating like some do'
Its very important specially when God presence is in a church to go to reunions, i don't know if being open to the pastor is all neccesary but gathering with brothers is a command in the bible.

There is protection, growth, blessings in 'going to church' with other childs of God, it can make all the difference in your christian walk, actually if you don't congregate at all, you probably will grow cold and more apart from God.

 

[SerenityA]

'Don't stop congregating like some do'
Its very important specially when God presence is in a church to go to reunions, i don't know if being open to the pastor is all neccesary but gathering with brothers is a command in the bible.

There is protection, growth, blessings in 'going to church' with other childs of God, it can make all the difference in your christian walk, actually if you don't congregate at all, you probably will grow cold and more apart from God.

I feel like I don’t have a pastor at all like God wants to teach me everything himself ?

 

[d taylor]

Huh? What are you saying ?

You stated: I think he wants me to go straight to him

If you are going straight to God then that would be, only by the revelation given by God in The Bible.

 

[SerenityA]

You stated: I think he wants me to go straight to him

If you are going straight to God then that would be, only by the revelation given by God in The Bible.

So you agree that I don’t have a pastor ?

 

[d taylor]

So you agree that I don’t have a pastor ?

That is only something that you can say. Having a pastor is not really that important, especially if they do not teach correctly.

But what is important is that you do find a source that teaches accurately, especially the difficult sections/areas of The Bible.

This is a very good site that may help you Grace Evangelical Society

God teaches His word (Bible) through people, God is not going to call you up and teach you audibility.

 

[Tolworth John]

I feel like I have done so much in my life that now I no longer have a pastor is it possible that God wants me all alone with no pastor and no spiritual leader like a pastor ?

Simple answer No.

You say 'you feel' your feelings have no relevance in determining biblical or Christian truth. You may indeed know far more about God than your pastor, I doubt it, but that does not negate your responcibility to support, encourage and help your pastor.
Every minister needs wise spiritual members of the congragation who he can talk to on a deeper level than most of the members, who can and will challenge what he says in sermons.

Basicly Christianity means being part of a community, to encourage and be encouraged.

How are you doing this?

 

[Josephus]

You still need a teacher. You can teach yourself some things, with the help of G-d even more. However, you still need a teacher. This is proven in the very first letter of the bible... the Hebrew letter Bet.

How so?

Easy. How would you know what a Bet is, without having learned the Alephbet? And how would you have learned the Alephbet, without someone telling that a Bet is a Bet? In this way, we know G-d intended us to seek out for ourselves teachers that teach the Word of G-d - even if we ourselves know a lot. We are part of a body of believers, and just as a toe can't exist outside the rest of the body for very long, so too we can't either.

By the mere fact the bible was written down, indicates we need someone to teach us how to read it... someone who has been taught by others who taught them, going back in a chain back to even Moses who wrote that very Bet you start the whole bible with. It is only by seeking this chain of teachers, can you stand strong against the falsehoods that arise when one divorces themselves from this oral chain.

Granted the more you learn the more you can teach yourself, but G-d has designed the bible in such a way that we can't learn everything on our own. We need each other. This is why even the most learned rabbis, still have a rabbi.

 

[NBB]

I feel like I don’t have a pastor at all like God wants to teach me everything himself ?

Its very important to go to church, where usuallly a pastor teaches there too.

 

[timf]

A pastor (shepherd) is supposed to do his job by teaching. If your pastor has taken you only so far, you may need another teacher (pastor).

 

[Hazelelponi]

I feel like I have done so much in my life that now I no longer have a pastor is it possible that God wants me all alone with no pastor and no spiritual leader like a pastor ?

Feelings come and go, but the Word of God is forever. It is the solid ground you must stand on. While the Holy Spirit leads us, He never leads us in opposition to revealed Scripture - only ego and Satan does that.

As it stands, God has given us Pastors under the New Covenant, and churches and church families to connect to. It is our duty, if at all possible, to join the family of God. He did not leave us alone.

 

[aiki]

I feel like I have done so much in my life that now I no longer have a pastor is it possible that God wants me all alone with no pastor and no spiritual leader like a pastor ?

No. Where would you get such an idea from? Not from the Bible, that's for sure.

Ephesians 4:11-16
11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,
12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;
13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming;
15 but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ,
16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.

Paul here clearly indicates that a believer's spiritual stability is obtained and maintained within the Body of Believers and particularly under the teaching of men gifted by God as pastors and teachers who "equip the saints," "build them up," and deepen their knowledge of Christ so that, as a result, they are no longer "tossed about with every wind of doctrine," and susceptible to the "trickery of men" and "deceitful scheming."

Over the flock of God - which flock includes you - God has set "overseers," "elders" whose responsibility it is to teach, protect and discipline the people of God. You remove yourself from their God-given leadership by becoming a lone wolf, separate from their authority and out from under their protection, instruction and discipline. In such a condition, you have rejected God's ordained authority structure for the Church, rebelling against it, in fact, and are "easy meat" for the "roaring lion who walks about seeking whom he may devour."

In my fifty years as a believer, the kookiest "Christians" I have encountered (kooky in their doctrine and practices) are those who have made themselves islands unto themselves, separate from the Body of Believers, and typically hyper-critical of it. Beware!

 

[aiki]

I think God no longer wants me to have a pastor at all but I’m not sure ? I think he wants me to go straight to him

It isn't one or the other but both. God will teach you from your own study of His word and also from those He has gifted to pastor and teach the Body. I am sympathetic to frustration with how enslaved to credentials modern believers have become. They seem to think that a seminary degree necessarily means a man or woman is walking well with God and has a deep personal, daily experience of Him. And the more credentials of this sort of which a person can boast, the deeper they must be spiritually. To this I say a hearty "Baloney!" Some of the most wretched, vain, and deceitful men I've encountered have been men who claimed the title of "Reverend Doctor." Think of the recent Ravi Zacharias scandal.

Walking well with God is not the special domain of the seminarian, or Christian philosopher. Knowing and communing with God is the "birthright" of every believer, utterly unrelated to time spent in a seminary or Bible school. One can go deep with God over a cup of coffee and one's Bible at the breakfast table; one is made holy in the midst of mundane events - driving to work, dealing with one's neighbor, loving one's spouse, fixing a flat tire, etc. - not in the "ivory tower" of a seminary; one experiences God in moments of conviction, temptation, tragedy and pain, not in a class on Church history or Koine Greek; a car mechanic, or plumber, or housewife can be just as mature spiritually as any "Doctor of Biblical Studies." But many - if not most - modern western Christians equate credentials with knowing God well, with spiritual maturity, relying totally, in fact, upon these credentialed people to do the work of Bible study for them, to tell them who God is and how to walk with Him. The "noble Bereans" have disappeared and the lazy, spiritually-careless, tell-me-what-to-think believer has replaced them.

 

[Victor E.]

I feel like I have done so much in my life that now I no longer have a pastor is it possible that God wants me all alone with no pastor and no spiritual leader like a pastor ?

I went through a phase like this in my walk.

It's true that there are seasons the Lord wants us to learn many things just from Him and His Word.

However, we should not forsake gathering together in communion with other believers.

And.. it is unwise to reject spiritual guidance indefinitely, those who have run the race longer than us, they have made mistakes along the way.

Even painful mistakes that could have been avoided.. we shouldn't hastily reject spiritual guidance from seasoned believers.

God has placed leaders in the Church to teach and build up the Body.

It includes Pastors too..

'11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.'

(Ephesians 4:11-16)

 

[Wyatt A.]

Serenity-----What church have you been going to?