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I want to get back into chruch. and i have been trying, but they dont believe what i used to believe. Now i realize i believe it, but i am wondering is it to late to go back. i have been talking to one of my friends that go to that church, and he really wants me to go back, but i am afraid him, my little brother, and another one of my friends are the only ones. i dont want to be shuned, i am afraid of that. what if they dont want me back?
i have other problems too. my little sister is becoming wiccan. and that compleatly goes agaist what i believe. i dont know what to do anymore. it is just ot complicated. i am trying so hard. i just need some help. can anyone help me?
 

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oops said:
I want to get back into chruch. and i have been trying, but they dont believe what i used to believe. Now i realize i believe it, but i am wondering is it to late to go back. i have been talking to one of my friends that go to that church, and he really wants me to go back, but i am afraid him, my little brother, and another one of my friends are the only ones. i dont want to be shuned, i am afraid of that. what if they dont want me back?

Ever read the parable about the prodigal son? If they don't welcome you back, they are not being very Christ-like. In fact, they should throw you a party :clap:

Well, you can tell your sister the Truth and keep praying for her. After that, it's between her and the Holy Spirit. Just live the faith, especially around her. You know the old saying, "preach the Gospel, using words if necessary."
 
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QuantaCura said:
Ever read the parable about the prodigal son? If they don't welcome you back, they are not being very Christ-like. In fact, they should throw you a party :clap:

Well, you can tell your sister the Truth and keep praying for her. After that, it's between her and the Holy Spirit. Just live the faith, especially around her. You know the old saying, "preach the Gospel, using words if necessary."
Yeah, what he said.
 
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oops said:
I want to get back into chruch. and i have been trying, but they dont believe what i used to believe. Now i realize i believe it, but i am wondering is it to late to go back. i have been talking to one of my friends that go to that church, and he really wants me to go back, but i am afraid him, my little brother, and another one of my friends are the only ones. i dont want to be shuned, i am afraid of that. what if they dont want me back?
i have other problems too. my little sister is becoming wiccan. and that compleatly goes agaist what i believe. i dont know what to do anymore. it is just ot complicated. i am trying so hard. i just need some help. can anyone help me?
Just ask God to forgive u...and he will.....God loves u and wants u to come back to Him...but what kind of church do u go to where u would be shunned? is it a small church or something......and what Church would turn u away , if u want to go there......in any case of it , those actions if the church took them would not be motivated by God...u might have to leave churches maybe?....cuz not even God shuns His own children cuz they made a mistake.....just repent and ask God to help u to forgive urself...and about ur sister and wicca.....pray 4 her.....is she aware of the good gospel of Jesus Christ? introduce her to it......and u need to find a church home....and it just might not be this one....and since u are so uncomfortable already about going back to ur old one .......u cant be anymore uncomfortable going to a new church where no one know u to judge u right? God bless
 
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oops said:
I want to get back into chruch. and i have been trying, but they dont believe what i used to believe. Now i realize i believe it, but i am wondering is it to late to go back. i have been talking to one of my friends that go to that church, and he really wants me to go back, but i am afraid him, my little brother, and another one of my friends are the only ones. i dont want to be shuned, i am afraid of that. what if they dont want me back?
i have other problems too. my little sister is becoming wiccan. and that compleatly goes agaist what i believe. i dont know what to do anymore. it is just ot complicated. i am trying so hard. i just need some help. can anyone help me?

Well,what do I know,but I would pray,and pray some more,and commit the keeping and making of your soul to Christ,he is able to keep that which you commit to him.Okay so you are not doing so well,maybe you have some error in what you believe,maybe you are struggling with sin,maybe your faith is weakened.But it is the wicked one,who is coming against your faith ,to kill it,and to cause you to turn away from Christ.

So,get up,get tough,be strong,If you need grace,then God will give it to you.If you need quidance,he will quide you as well.Dont be wussy,be strong,have faith that God is able to bring to pass his will in your life.Serving God isnt dependant on what church you go to,although it can be very helpfull to have a good church with loving and wise saints,God is still able to keep you,and will send people into your life to help you.

Focus on loving God,and serving others,and keeping his word in your heart.

And lastly,pray,and keep praying,lift up your voice to heaven,and cry out to the God who created you,and dont stop praying till your dieing day.
Pray without ceasing.You have a lifetime of battles ahead of you,and it will finally be over,when you stand before God in the life to come.

May Christ keep you and I pray your faith will not fail,amen.
 
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You need to rest on God's lap. You mustn't do anything at all. Your going to church, serving others, praying, studying, whatever, needs to flow naturally from a trusting relationship with Jesus.

He has saved you. It is finished. Your salvation is secure, your identity is that of a child of God. All you need to to is realize this, and the rest follows naturally. It's our insight in righteousness that allows us to deem between right and wrong (that's even "biblical"). You need to see who you are in Christ. Nothing more, and certainly nothing less.

You say "if it's not too late to go back". There's nothing to go back to, you've never been anything but God's child since you first believed. You are already born again, your sins have already been covered, the demands have already been met, your guilt is as far from you as the east is from the west. You don't have to live like you are still guilty.
 
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Holo, what a beautiful post...:thumbsup: and I would like to add that I agree with Reyna. If this should turn out to be the type of church that would shun anyone for any reason.... then I would implore you to begin seeking fellowship in another church that teaches the Word in a non-manipulative manner. I recently went through my own transition and went to six churches in a number a weeks, finally landing to rest at a lovely new church right up the road from me... where they actually pray for the Holy Spirit to be with other churches each Sunday morning instead of talking against them -- a new concept for me! :amen:

Please keep in mind too, that church in and of itself is there to help you on your Christan path, not a requirement to be with the Lord. You're with Jesus constantly and he is with you all of the time; you can talk to Him anytime you want to. But he's not the building. The building is there to fellowship together as the body of Christ, which is helping me strengthen my faith tremendously. And the teachings from the Word of God are invaluable in helping me learn... our pastor is a wonderful translator with passages I don't understand. :scratch:

I don't know where I'm going with this... probably just rambling..:confused: I guess my point is just that if you do go back to this church and you're made to feel awful, then I hope you don't give up... I hope you will consider seeking if you need to.

Keep us posted, k? Will keep you in my prayers.
SF'05
 
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Believe me it's never too late. I had gotton out of formal religion for many years. I was raised Catholic and when I felt called to go back to religion it was not a Catholic Church but a Christian Church that I went to.I feel totally comfortable there and completely accepted. You have to do what feels right to you,but if you feel it's time to go back GO BACK. Don't worry about what anyone else says or thinks, this is your decision to make and it is a very personal one. Your sister may be doing the wrong thing but you can't let that influence you. Maybe one day she will come around by the example you lead.
 
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1) If your neighbor’s dog killed your child, and you had the power to
chain this dog, blast him with blow torches, and the dog not die as a
result, how long would you torture the dog for its terrible crime?
A.) One Day
B.) One Month
C.) One Year
D.) Eternity

2) As a loving parent, you give life to 5 children and give them free
will to do as they see best. Each child goes his/her own way. One becomes a
Buddhist, one becomes an Islam, one becomes a Christian, one becomes a
Wiccan, and one believes in no religion. Only one of your children
believes as you do. How would you treat your 4 children who don’t?
A.) I would kill them.
B.) I would disown them.
C.) I would torture them for eternity in hell.
D.) I would love them and accept them as they are.

3) If you had a critical message and wanted to make sure as many
people as possible would get it and understand it how would you go about it?
A.) I would send it in a time when there was no mass communications, or
printing presses.
B.) I would have my messenger not write anything down regarding my
message, trusting others to listen and pass it on accurately and unchanged.
C.) I would make sure what is written about my message was
contradictory, and very confusing, so people would have a hard time
understanding my message.
D.) I would write down a clear, non contradictory, simple book and send
it with my messenger in a time of mass communication and the printing
press.

4) How would you deal with people who did not get your message, or
didn’t understand it, or didn’t believe it was your message because it
was so contradictory and confusing?
A.) Kill them.
B.) Torture them.
C.) Damn them to eternity in hell.
D.) Understand, Love them and forgive them.

5) If you were omnipotent but invisible, and you wanted to make sure
that people knew you were real and wanted them to believe in you, what
would you do to make this happen?
A.) I would write my name on the face of the moon so all could see and
have no doubt of my existence.
B.) I would do things that could not be explained in any other way.
Like stopping terrible things from happening, like the 911 event, or
feeding all the hungry children on earth.
C.) I would protect and reward those who believed in me and ignore the
plight of those who do not.
D.) I would do nothing at all and stay as invisible and undetectable as
possible, letting everyone fend for themselves, those who believe in me
and those who don’t, showing no favoritism.

In short order I realized I was more rational, had more compassion
and love than the god of the bible. He was not a god he was a monster
invented by bronze age savages. I was on my way out of the dark world of xianity.

Hope you enjoyed,
 
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You might be a Christian if…

22) You think you defend your worldview successfully, but your two main arguments are based on circular reasoning (The Bible is true because the Bible says…) and ad hominem attacks (Everyone already knows God is real, and those who deny it are lying to themselves).

21) You always try to observe the ten commandments like Exodus 20:7, but you never try to observe the punishments like Leviticus 24:16.

20) You trust a book written by sheepherders in a time when humans thought the world was flat and that women determined the gender of offspring, but you don’t trust a book written in modern times by a scientist.

19) You believe that fear of God and love of God are compatible and even complimentary.

18) You believe that a material universe created ex nihilo by an eternal, immaterial God makes more sense than an eternal, material universe itself.

17) You believe that a being that creates flawed, imperfect, and evil entities can be all loving and all wise.

16) You think that a story involving a God who sacrifices himself to himself in order to circumvent a law he created himself that would have forced him to send his own flawed creations to a Hell he created himself makes perfect sense.

15) You think two wrongs make a right in that everyone is born guilty, and that spilling innocent blood provides redemption for this inherent guilt.

14) You deny the first law of thermodynamics, and champion the second law of thermodynamics.

13) You claim that faith (belief in things unevidenced) is required for salvation, but you attempt to prove Christianity with material evidence every chance you get.

12) You insist that God is responsible for everything in the universe, and then insist that original sin is Adam’s fault and that Satan was responsible for his own rebellion.

11) You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

10) You feel that the theory that people evolved from other life forms trivializes and cheapens humanity, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt and ribs.

9) You claim that God’s love is all encompassing and unconditional, and the only condition is that you admit worthlessness and submit fully to his will.

8) Your cringe when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" — including women, children, and trees!

7) You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

6) You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of generations old.

5) You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects — will spend eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

4) While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

3) You state that prayers are always answered even if the exact opposite of what you pray for happens.

2) Despite the fact that prisons and mental institutions have a higher percentage of Christians than the general population, and college educated people have a higher percentage of atheism than the general population, you claim that Christianity will improve ones moral code and quality of life; you claim that Christians are better people. Then when presented with this contrary evidence, you claim that the devil is to blame for this "deception".

1) Your grandest wish is for God/Jesus to come down from heaven and initiate an apocalypse, yet again committing near total genocide on all of humanity.

 
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