I am Curious

[SkyWriting]

holy crap really? That's messed up

The forum moderator apologized to me that he didn't warn me sooner
about not answering every point in every post with peer reviewed
citations backing anything I said, but there was nothing he could do.

 

[Davian]

I've been banned twice. One of the rules is "avoiding" which they used anytime they choose,
and the moderators don't even have control. Posters file complaints of "avoiding" and the forum
mechanism bans you without human intervention.

And in case you didn't notice, I ignore points of no interest to me.

On that subject, did you come up with those scientific principles that allow for intelligence without a brain?

A second time I lost track of my password and after being gone for two years, they ousted me for opening
a second account after my first one was banned.

And, in case you didn't know, there is a forum blacklist that other forums use to deny access to new
members who are troublemakers with listed emails and IP addresses. So it's not just harmless antics.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Practice. Go to "Why doesn't god heal amputees" and try not to get
kicked out of the forum. It's a challenge to have a conversation and
not break their rules.

Lol this is so true...if you can still dig up and look at my first few posts on this forum, I was basically attacking beliefs non-stop.

The rules have forced me to be far more patient than I would be in real life or even just on other forums.

Of course, there's always private messages....

 

[Ana the Ist]

I thought C.F. stood for Cuddle Friends and this was a furry forum.

 

[Jesus' Follower]

I thought C.F. stood for Cuddle Friends and this was a furry forum.

 

[plummyy]

I am not trying to start an argument.

But I notice there are a lot of atheist and agnostics here. I am just surprise. I can't imagine going on Islamic Forum. So why are there a lot of atheists and agnostics on a Christian Forum?

1. learn something about christianity
2. correct misconceptions about myself and others like myself when false/hateful statements are made
3. open a window to let some fresh air into the room

I've been onto islamic discussion pages, and you should as well. If you honestly have never considered how absolutely embarrassing it is to claim yourself to be "non"-something, and yet have no idea as to how or why due to a lack of knowledge about that thing, I strongly urge you to pay closer attention. As an a-theist, I would find myself to be an embarrassment if I had little to no understanding of the religions I claimed to be "A" towards. Christianity/abrahamic religion is so incredibly popular that trying to get away with never running into someone who wants to talk about it is impossible, and I don't like feeling as though I have nothing to say when those conversations come up. Being a part of forums like this also helps me learn more information in the areas of science/etc. because I spend time reading up on things that i may have not given much attention to before, so that I can support the things I say in a thread (or check what other people say)---I actually know more about evolution having been on here because some of these threads have motivated me to read essays and watch lectures.

I think they are here because they are thirsty about Christianity. Hard core atheists will not be here.

i am a hard-core atheist.

edit: I first wrote "hard-corn"

 

[juvenissun]

1. learn something about christianity
2. correct misconceptions about myself and others like myself when false/hateful statements are made
3. open a window to let some fresh air into the room

i am a hard-core atheist.

No. You are not. You still think some Christian ideas could be "fresh air". If you were, then you would certainly think anything about Christianity is worthless. Do you know any communist? If you do, talk to him about Christianity (or any religion) and see his reaction. That is hard-core.

 

[plummyy]

No. You are not. You still think some Christian ideas could be "fresh air". If you were, then you would certainly think anything about Christianity is worthless. Do you know any communist? If you do, talk to him about Christianity (or any religion) and see his reaction. That is hard-core.

Who are you?
You have no place telling me what I should deem worthless. You're fine to think that ideas outside of your circle of thought are worthless, that's fine, but I don't have to. Don't tell me. I don't think those ideas are worthless because I believe it is an embarrassment to be the person who thinks that they don't need to listen to what other people are saying, and still think of themselves as a respectable and learned person. Are you trying to tell me that I aught to treat Christianity-related things as worthless, just disregard them completely? I'm sure you must have great respect.

 

[juvenissun]

Who are you?
You have no place telling me what I should deem worthless. You're fine to think that ideas outside of your circle of thought are worthless, that's fine, but I don't have to. Don't tell me. I don't think those ideas are worthless because I believe it is an embarrassment to be the person who thinks that they don't need to listen to what other people are saying, and still think of themselves as a respectable and learned person. Are you trying to tell me that I aught to treat Christianity-related things as worthless, just disregard them completely? I'm sure you must have great respect.

Who are you?
I said what I like to say. The rest is your problem.

 

[Eight Foot Manchild]

I am not trying to start an argument.

But I notice there are a lot of atheist and agnostics here. I am just surprise. I can't imagine going on Islamic Forum. So why are there a lot of atheists and agnostics on a Christian Forum?

Same reason I listen to Christian radio and talk to street preachers - because I have to share a planet with you. It's important to keep up on what religious people believe, because beliefs inform actions (and vice-versa), an actions have real world consequences.

Also because I enjoy it.

 

[keith99]

I came here because of a post in the Politics and Religion section of a cycling board I frequent that was about stupid things Christians say on the internet. Each cite was identified by board.

Being an evil atheist and not a trusting Christian I checked, not just that the individual posts existed but also just how representative they were and for what kind of reception they received.

Some sites fared rather poorly, but here there were many reasonable posters and insightful posts. It wasn't until later I realized there were atheists, agnostics and believers of other faiths here and a pretty large percentage of the rational posts were from non-Christians.

But by then there were several posters whose opinions I had come to respect. Some Christian some not. And a few of the Christian posters are both rational and kind. I find it good to be reminded that such Christians exist and threads like this one make me pause to think and I then think that being a jerk and being loud go hand in hand and that this means the jerks are overrepresented in what I see here and in life. Perhaps grossly overrepresented. I find I prefer remembering that and thinking there are many good, but quiet, Christians in this world.

 

[Hank77]

I find it good to be reminded that such Christians exist and threads like this one make me pause to think and I then think that being a jerk and being loud go hand in hand and that this means the jerks are overrepresented in what I see here and in life. Perhaps grossly overrepresented. I find I prefer remembering that and thinking there are many good, but quiet, Christians in this world.

Just as I find that it is good to be reminded that not all agnostics and atheist hate Christians, hate Christianity, and hate Jesus. I'm reminded that there are some who are compassionate, caring people. I have heard them speak on this site.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

Any atheist who is honest with themselves is an agnostic. I don't understand why there has to be false dichotomies.
Well, actually I do. I know exactly why they exist..

 

[Davian]

I do recall responding to an open invitation on another discussion board to come here and join the discussions, by an individual that [still] uses the self-applied title of "undefeated".

Just a label, it turns out.

But the discussions are still enjoyable and entertaining, so I am still here.

 

[Davian]

Any atheist who is honest with themselves is an agnostic. I don't understand why there has to be false dichotomies.

The terms are not mutually exclusive.

Well, actually I do. I know exactly why they exist..

Why, exactly?

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

The terms are not mutually exclusive.

Why, exactly?

To be an 'atheist' as opposed to being 'agnostic' is simply anti-theism. And anti-theism is by definition illogical because there is no reasonable scientific theory which says reality did not come from a sentient maker- our origin, scientifically, is an unanswered question.

The thing I don't get is why it doesn't bother some people to not have a settled belief of origins. I can't imagine not having a belief in God, I would lose my mind to be honest.

And that is why I believe everyone who is atheist is actually agnostic. How could you not be_

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

Just like Christianity needs there to be sin... discussing topics of conflict is fun and enjoyable and fulfilling.

I get it.

Yes, it can be fullfilling.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Any atheist who is honest with themselves is an agnostic. I don't understand why there has to be false dichotomies.
Well, actually I do. I know exactly why they exist..

I think that can be expanded to any person who is honest with themselves should call themselves agnostic. Agnosticism has nothing to do with not believing in gods. It has to do with knowledge of god's existence. You can be both agnostic and theist or atheist, in that you can either believe in God or not but also admit to not having knowledge of God's existence.

I don't know that there is no God so I'm agnostic, but I also don't believe there is, so that also makes me atheist. Agnostic doesn't mean I'm on the fence about believing in God or not. I'm certain I don't believe in God. The concept is preposterous to me. But I don't know because it is an unfalsifiable claim that gods exist.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

To be an 'atheist' as opposed to being 'agnostic' is simply anti-theism. And anti-theism is by definition illogical because there is no reasonable scientific theory which says reality did not come from a sentient maker- our origin, scientifically, is an unanswered question.

The thing I don't get is why it doesn't bother some people to not have a settled belief of origins. I can't imagine not having a belief in God, I would lose my mind to be honest.

And that is why I believe everyone who is atheist is actually agnostic. How could you not be_

Atheist and agnostic answer two different questions. They aren't 'degrees' of disbelief.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

I think that can be expanded to any person who is honest with themselves should call themselves agnostic. Agnosticism has nothing to do with not believing in gods. It has to do with knowledge of god's existence. You can be both agnostic and theist or atheist, in that you can either believe in God or not but also admit to not having knowledge of God's existence.

I don't know that there is no God so I'm agnostic, but I also don't believe there is, so that also makes me atheist. Agnostic doesn't mean I'm on the fence about believing in God or not.

An atheist is someone who holds to no deity. An agnostic is the same, and both have the same reason for such- they have no knowledge of a deity.

An agnostic theist I suppose would have to be a deist, maybe? But then again, they would have already made a direct proclamation that there is a creator.