Scripture doesn't need to say we are declared righteous. It's the definition of justification.
Then Paul misspoke in Romans 5:1.I beg to differ on the definition of justification.
It does declare someone righteous and when I say someone, I mean only ONE...
I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
The Lamb is Worthy
5And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Jesus Christ is Righteousness
Righteousness Through Faith
21But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness is known only through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.
The righteousness of God is projected through the only begotten Son.....
17And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
I am NOT righteous like Jesus, but my faith in him has made known to me God's righteousness.
Jesus Christ is the Rigtheousness of God, we are NOT!
I'm not claiming self-righteousness. Can we get past that already?But surely it is not OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS as you bluntly put ut.
How so...?Then Paul misspoke in Romans 5:1.
We are God's righteousness in Christ, but we are only a conduit, a vessel, and it is all God in us, when judging and none of us at all, were most definetly not worthy, but that is also, not up to us, but God, and he sees us differently than that)and the moment we lose sight of that we are only a conduit, a vessel, ect, ect, (what I just said) we become self-righteous and sin...I'm not claiming self-righteousness. Can we get past that already?
Then Paul misspoke in Romans 5:1.
He not the only one, but he was the perfect one, and the first one to do it "right", the one that could die and through his death, make many able to be declared just as worthy (of any good thing) as he is, and for us to be able to be like him, righteous as he is/was, and... many other things...If Christ is the only one declared righteous, then Paul misspoke.
I'm not claiming self-righteousness. Can we get past that already?
I'm a prime example of God's grace (to me)...17For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. (John 1:17)
Righteousness and grace are tightly interwoven and to claim righteousness, one is also claiming to be the grace of God.
I think you are getting hung up on the claim and how it's perceived. You keep saying we can't say it because of how people might perceive it. How it might be perceived does not dictate whether it's a true statement or not.It is always through the righteousness of Jesus, through the mercy of Jesus, through the grace of Jesus, through the truth of Jesus, through the Words of Jesus, through the ways of Jesus, through the life of Jesus.
We surely cannot claim to be righteous, merciful, graceful, truth, life and ways. Otherwise people who make claims to that effect, in general would become intermediaries, like the many christs that Jesus prophesied and warned about, that they would come after him.
But the thread is about the truthfulness of the claim, not how it's perceived.We can. But you repeat the same terms and words do have applied meanings, that I must repeat to understand what is being said, otherwise we are just fishing for words haphazardly.
We can at least agree to drop the usage of personal pronouns, can we?
I say this, so we avoid confusing others.
I think you are getting hung up on the claim and how it's perceived. You keep saying we can't say it because of how people might perceive it. How it might be perceived does not dictate whether it's a true statement or not.
But the thread is about the truthfulness of the claim, not how it's perceived.
I guess my point is, if God says we are something, is it untrue to make the same claim?I believe that we cannot claim the essence of Jesus, but we can claim knowledge as being recipients of grace, truth, mercy, way, life, righteousness.
Those qualities are administered by the Lord to us and not by us, that we should claim to be....
grace, truth, mercifuly, way, life, righteousness.
There is a huge difference, is it not?
Where are those other claims being made?Ler us look at the OP claim....
A saved person says, "I am as righteous as Jesus."
Truth or blasphemy?
If we are to use this method of reasoning, then extend it like so.....
I am as righteous, merciful, graceful, truthful, lifeful as Jesus.
Do you see where this errant claim is heading?
Blasphemy, nothing short of, is it not?