I am a bit mind-blown: if entropy is true, even "Entropy" decays?

Gottservant said:

Hi there,

So I don't understand this: "Entropy" must be subject to entropy?

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Gottservant said:

Hi there,

So I don't understand this: "Entropy" must be subject to entropy?

I suppose part of my confusion is "how much", that is: Entropy is subject to entropy, as a word, which is the least possible entropy?

In other words, even though "Entropy" decays, it decays the least of anything in the Universe - "Entropy" the word, is not gone, until the Universe is.

I guess the question is: which of us believing in "Entropy", decays the least? (wait a minute! That would be Jesus?)

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1. 
   PHYSICS
   a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.
2. 
   lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.
   "a marketplace where entropy reigns supreme"

Gottservant said:

What do you mean? The letters of "Entropy" are not energized?

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Gottservant said:

Ok, sure, but what are you basing that on?

If the energy in the universe runs out, so will the energy to communicate the word "Entropy"?

I'm serious, the word should matter, not just mean.

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Gottservant said:

Don't tell me entropy asserts everything decays, but not the word "Entropy"?

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• S = kB ln Ω
  
• ΔS is greater than or equal to a certain lower bound

Gottservant said:

Are you saying "entropy" is represented (in part) by S, or not? or kB, or not?

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Gottservant said:

Hi there,

So I don't understand this: "Entropy" must be subject to entropy?

I suppose part of my confusion is "how much", that is: Entropy is subject to entropy, as a word, which is the least possible entropy?

In other words, even though "Entropy" decays, it decays the least of anything in the Universe - "Entropy" the word, is not gone, until the Universe is.

I guess the question is: which of us believing in "Entropy", decays the least? (wait a minute! That would be Jesus?)

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Michael Collum said:

entropy being disorder in a system.

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Radagast said:

I don't think that's an accurate characterisation of what entropy is.

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1. 1.
   Physics
   a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.
2. 2.
   lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.

Radagast said:

But my main point is that "entropy" has a specific scientific meaning, given by the formula. It cannot be meaningfully used simply as a metaphor.

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Michael Collum said:

en·tro·py
/ˈentrəpē/



noun
noun: entropy; plural noun: entropies; symbol: S

1. 1.
   Physics
   a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.
2. 2.
   lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.

It has more than one meaning.

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Radagast said:

The scientific definition given there is the first part of #1. Yes, the word is used informally to mean "disorder," but that's not scientifically accurate.

And anyway you should look up technical scientific words in a scientific dictionary. The definition in the Oxford Dictionary of Science is:

entropy: Symbol S. A measure of the unavailability of a system's energy to do work.​

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Michael Collum said:

it's okay to parable naturally occurring phenomena.

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