Hypothetical: Creationism becomes standard in science classes

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So? I suppose Americans still think that the 4.4% of the uk population who are Muslims, are shortly going to have us living under Sharia Law. The other 95.6% might have something to say about that.
If you need help, give US a call.

I'm sure our 'bad joke' will be willing to lend a hand.
 
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Don't tell me. Mithras, Horus, Osiris.....

I wonder which version of that nonsense it is that you have heard?
Do you think Jesus is some brand new idea that the world has never seen before? He's not, just another man-made god, just like all the others.
 
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Do you think Jesus is some brand new idea that the world has never seen before? He's not, just another man-made god, just like all the others.
Then He's quite an invention, isn't He?

What scientist(s) thought Him up?
 
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Then He's quite an invention, isn't He?

What scientist(s) thought Him up?
Not at all, your god's answer to wickedness in the world was, "I think I'll murder them all." Not a loving god. Your god doesn't give us any proof of his existence, but if we don't believe, we go to hell. Not a loving god. Your god ordered the murder of many, including women (some pregnant) and children. Not a loving god. Your god allows for slavery and the beating of slaves, as long as they don't die within a day or two. Not a loving god. Your god allows for billions to suffer as he sits back and watches. Not a loving god. Your god is quite an invention, a horrible invention.
 
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Then He's quite an invention, isn't He?

What scientist(s) thought Him up?
Yes, there are plenty of examples of religions from whole cloth fabrication.

Scientology, LDS, JW's...

Given we have ample evidence of man-made religions, how do you determine a "real" one?
 
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Do you think Jesus is some brand new idea that the world has never seen before? He's not, just another man-made god, just like all the others.

What I think is that atheists who think they know oh so much about the history of religion regularly trot out the kind of arant nonsense originating from people like Gerald Massey, Alvin Kuhn or Godfrey Higgins, probably without a clue as to its ultimate source, and which would be dismissed out of hand in academic circles.

To take just two examples, Mithras was born out of a rock before the foundation of the world, and, although there are no surviving Mithraic scriptures, there are no indications that he suffered a sacrificial death, let alone a ressurection. As for Attis, I will let you read about his "virgin birth" for yourself:

Attis

There is likewise nothing in his myth about a resurrection.
 
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Do you think Jesus is some brand new idea that the world has never seen before? He's not, just another man-made god, just like all the others.
Then He's quite an invention, isn't He?

What scientist(s) thought Him up?
Not at all, your god's answer to wickedness in the world was, "I think I'll murder them all." Not a loving god. Your god doesn't give us any proof of his existence, but if we don't believe, we go to hell. Not a loving god. Your god ordered the murder of many, including women (some pregnant) and children. Not a loving god. Your god allows for slavery and the beating of slaves, as long as they don't die within a day or two. Not a loving god. Your god allows for billions to suffer as he sits back and watches. Not a loving god. Your god is quite an invention, a horrible invention.
Oh ... those scientists ... okay, thanks.
 
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Yes, there are plenty of examples of religions from whole cloth fabrication.

Scientology, LDS, JW's...

Given we have ample evidence of man-made religions, how do you determine a "real" one?
What scientists invented those guys?
 
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What I think is that atheists who think they know oh so much about the history of religion regularly trot out the kind of arant nonsense originating from people like Gerald Massey, Alvin Kuhn or Godfrey Higgins, probably without a clue as to its ultimate source, and which would be dismissed out of hand in academic circles.

To take just two examples, Mithras was born out of a rock before the foundation of the world, and, although there are no surviving Mithraic scriptures, there are no indications that he suffered a sacrificial death, let alone a ressurection. As for Attis, I will let you read about his "virgin birth" for yourself:

Attis

There is likewise nothing in his myth about a resurrection.
So Horus and Osiris have nothing in common with Jesus? Oh wait, yes they do.
 
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Apparently you have not heard of the joke, regarding American GIs, which was current in wartime Britain: "Over sexed, over paid and over here."
That's because British women were finally able to have sex with real men.
 
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