Hypocrisy of the Democrats: Building Walls and Demading ID

[Adam56]

Democrats, in a stunning display of irony, are building an impenetrable wall around their convention in Chicago and demanding ID from everyone entering the venue. This comes from the same party that decries walls as racist and insists that requiring ID is discriminatory. Meanwhile, all the appointments for free vasectomies for Democrat men at the convention have already filled up.

In a move that would be laughable if it weren’t so hypocritical, the Democratic Party is set to erect an impenetrable wall around their convention venue in Chicago and require photo ID from everyone who wants to attend. Yes, you read that correctly. The very party that has spent years branding walls as racist and denouncing voter ID laws as discriminatory is now embracing both when it serves their interests.

For years, Democrats have vilified anyone who dares suggest that America needs secure borders. They’ve gone so far as to label the construction of a border wall as an act of racism. Yet, when it comes to protecting their own, suddenly walls are a necessity. The message is clear: walls for us, but not for thee.

And let’s talk about the ID requirement. We’ve heard it all before from the left—demanding ID is discriminatory, it disenfranchises voters, it’s racist. Yet, when it comes to their convention, ID suddenly becomes essential. If Democrats truly believe that requiring ID is oppressive, why are they so quick to enforce it when their own security is on the line? The irony is staggering.

But the absurdity doesn’t stop there. Appointments for free vasectomies for Democrat men at the convention have already filled up. It’s almost as if they’re taking their dedication to population control to a whole new level. The left has long championed the idea of controlling the population through abortion and now, it seems, they’re encouraging sterilization as well.

This whole situation reeks of hypocrisy. It’s a classic case of “rules for thee, but not for me.” When it comes to protecting their own interests, Democrats are more than willing to throw their so-called principles out the window. Whether it’s building walls, demanding ID, or promoting population control, they’ll do whatever it takes to maintain their power.

The double standards on display here are just too glaring to ignore. The Democratic Party has revealed, yet again, that their true agenda is not about fairness or equality, but about control. Control of the borders when it suits them, control of the voting process when it benefits them, and control of the population through whatever means necessary.

As we watch the events unfold at the Democratic convention, we’re reminded once more that the left’s hypocrisy knows no bounds. They’ll preach one thing and practice another, all in the name of power. And the American people are expected to sit back and accept it.

But we won’t. It’s time to call out this hypocrisy for what it is. The Democrats can’t have it both ways. If they’re going to build walls and demand ID at their convention, they should be held accountable for the same actions they’ve demonized in others. The American people deserve leaders who stand by their principles, not ones who twist them to suit their convenience.

So, as the Democrats gather behind their walls and check IDs at the door, let’s remember what this says about their true values. It’s not about fairness or justice—it’s about control. And that’s something every American should be concerned about.

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[Vambram]

Apparently, the Democratic Party only wants walls and IDs when that benefits them.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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It is pretty hypocritical to complain about the DNC security practices when the RNC had a security perimeter and required ID.
At both of these events, a presidential candidate was there and many other party official, senators and representatives. Last night, the President of the US.was there and tight security is ALWAYS required when the President is there.

Plus, they knew in advance about pro-Palestinian protests would be held, and planned for how to handle it if they became violent or got out of hand.

 

[Vambram]

I'm not complaining about the security practices at the DNC in Chicago. However, I do believe that it's ironic or even hypocritical for the the DNC to believe in the usage of walls, IDs and security when it benefits them. But then the Democratic Party politicians say walls don't work at the borders and that voter ID ought to be illegal.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I'm not complaining about the security practices at the DNC in Chicago. However, I do believe that it's ironic or even hypocritical for the the DNC to believe in the usage of walls, IDs and security when it benefits them. But then the Democratic Party politicians say walls don't work at the borders and that voter ID ought to be illegal.

You are conflating different situations. Walls do not keep out immigrants when they are flying in. Nor do they stop immigrants who are applying for asylum.
Immigration does not benefit Democrats more than Republicans.

IDs are required to attend the DNC the same way tickets are required to attend a concert.

Come up with a real complaint. This one is rather silly.

 

[Adam56]

You are conflating different situations. Walls do not keep out immigrants when they are flying in. Nor do they stop immigrants who are applying for asylum.

It stops those who sneak in though.

Immigration does not benefit Democrats more than Republicans.

That’s a blatant falsehood. Immigrants vote Democrat and live in blue states more, which gives the democrats more seats in the house and more electoral college votes.

IDs are required to attend the DNC the same way tickets are required to attend a concert.

And it should work that way for voting as well.

Come up with a real complaint. This one is rather silly.

No it’s not.

 

[Vambram]

There is a clear difference between using walls and border security measures that cut back and limit the massive illegal immigration as compared to actions that would reduce illegal immigration to zero. Also, if y'all truly believe that massive illegal immigration is NOT something that the Democratic Party believes helps them, then why has the current administration allowed millions and millions of illegal immigrants across our borders since January 2021?

 

[Belk]

There is a clear difference between using walls and border security measures that cut back and limit the massive illegal immigration as compared to actions that would reduce illegal immigration to zero. Also, if y'all truly believe that massive illegal immigration is NOT something that the Democratic Party believes helps them, then why has the current administration allowed millions and millions of illegal immigrants across our borders since January 2021?

They have pulled the border guards back? Stopped immigration from checking passports at ports of entry?

 

[FreeinChrist]

It stops those who sneak in though.

They climb over walls.

That’s a blatant falsehood. Immigrants vote Democrat and live in blue states more, which gives the democrats more seats in the house and more electoral college votes.

NOPE. They have to get their citizenship, which is an involved process. Immigrants who gain citizenship may vote either party. It depends. For instance, many of the Venezuelan immigrants who get citizenship vote Republican.

And it should work that way for voting as well.

No it’s not.

I had to have ID to get a driver's license and had to provide ID when I registered to vote. It was done at the same time and I had to show my birth certificate.

When my mom lost her state ID and the time to easily renew passed, we had to provide her birth certificate to get the new ID and she was registered to vote (update) at the same time.


It is silly to conflate border walls and ID for voting with the requirements to go into a political event when the president and presidential candidate is there along with House members and Senators.

 

[Adam56]

They climb over walls.

Walls Work

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

NOPE. They have to get their citizenship, which is an involved process. Immigrants who gain citizenship may vote either party. It depends. For instance, many of the Venezuelan immigrants who get citizenship vote Republican.

I noticed you ignored the part about the electoral college and House of Representatives.

It is silly to conflate border walls and ID for voting with the requirements to go into a political event when the president and presidential candidate is there along with House members and Senators.

no it’s not.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Walls Work

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

I noticed you ignored the part about the electoral college and House of Representatives.

I didn't ignore the electoral college or the House. While that is based on total population, it is still only citizens who vote for the president. and that is only citizens who are on the mainland, Alaska and Hawaii, in the military or US citizens abroad. Those citizens in Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, Mariana Islands and US Virgin Islands can only vote in a primary. They have to move to a State in order to vote for president.

IF having immigrants was so important to increase a state's number of electoral votes/number of Reps, then Texas wouldn't be so anxious to move them out.

Here is an article that explains things:

Third Way

www.thirdway.org

no it’s not.

Yeah, it is. Insisting on security for an event like the convention, or other public events, is not the same thing as the border or voting.

 

[Adam56]

I didn't ignore the electoral college or the House. While that is based on total population, it is still only citizens who vote for the president. and that is only citizens who are on the mainland, Alaska and Hawaii, in the military or US citizens abroad. Those citizens in Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, Mariana Islands and US Virgin Islands can only vote in a primary. They have to move to a State in order to vote for president.

IF having immigrants was so important to increase a state's number of electoral votes/number of Reps, then Texas wouldn't be so anxious to move them out.

Non-Sequitir

Here is an article that explains things:

Third Way

www.thirdway.org

1. That website is clearly biased scrolling through the articles.

2. Elon Musk Overstates Partisan Impact of Illegal Immigration on House Apportionment - FactCheck.org

CIS also analyzed the impact of all immigration, both legal and illegal, and concluded it was responsible for a shift of 26 House seats. But that includes immigrants who became U.S. citizens, the U.S.-born children of immigrants living in the U.S. legally or illegally, as well as other immigrants living legally in the country.

Yeah, it is. Insisting on security for an event like the convention, or other public events, is not the same thing as the border or voting.

Nah, ID and security matter play roles in each. You’re just pouting because it proves the Democratic Party is hypocritical.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Non-Sequitir

1. That website is clearly biased scrolling through the articles.

2. Elon Musk Overstates Partisan Impact of Illegal Immigration on House Apportionment - FactCheck.org

Nope, not non-sequitir.


Did you read the article you linked to?

Nah, ID and security matter play roles in each. You’re just pouting because it proves the Democratic Party is hypocritical.

No, I simply am pointing that your comparison fails.

And do not make personal comments as in that last line.

 

[Adam56]

Nope, not non-sequitir.


Did you read the article you linked to?

I did.

No, I simply am pointing that your comparison fails.

It doesn’t.

And do not make personal comments as in that last line.

Personal, I was talking about Democratic politicians. I’m not allowed to point out hypocrisy about politicians?

 

[RoBo1988]

Apparently, the Democratic Party only wants walls and IDs when that benefits them.

They're only for important people.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I did.

It doesn’t.

Personal, I was talking about Democratic politicians. I’m not allowed to point out hypocrisy about politicians?

Personal as in the "pouting" comment. Stick to content.

 

[Adam56]

Personal as in the "pouting" comment. Stick to content.

Ok, why is it different for Democrats to require ID at the DNC but not require ID for voting?

 

[FreeinChrist]

Responding to the OP, it is very reasonable for the DNC to make sure those that entered were allowed to enter.so as to protect the candidate and others. A better comparison would have been if the Dems critiize the GOP for checking ID but then did it themselves.



ID is required to vote. I have voted in 4 states - MI, WA, TX and AZ. In each state (different times), I had to bring a birth certificate to the DMV in order to get a driver's license and I registered to vote at the same time. I do mail in voting in AZ and they compare signatures, I get a notification when it is received, when the signature is cleared, when the ballot is scanned and then when it is finally counted.
What the Dems balk at is the purging of voter rolls by one side, required new ID from the elderly who have voted for 70 years but their ID was lost at some point. There were other things - like reducing early voting, bills that required 2 forms of ID for absentee voting, restricted mail in voting, and restriction of some forms of ID.

 

[Adam56]

Responding to the OP, it is very reasonable for the DNC to make sure those that entered were allowed to enter.so as to protect the candidate and others. A better comparison would have been if the Dems critiize the GOP for checking ID but then did it themselves.

So the democrats wanna defend themselves because it benefits them.

ID is required to vote. I have voted in 4 states - MI, WA, TX and AZ. In each state, I had to bring a birth certificate to the DMV in order to get a driver's license and I registered to vote at the same time. I do mail in voting in AZ and they compare signatures, I get a notification when it is received, when the signature is cleared, when the ballot is scanned and then when it is finally counted.
What the Dems balk at is the purging of voter rolls by one side, required new ID from the elderly who have voted for 70 years but their ID was lost at some point. There were other things - like reducing early voting, bills that required 2 forms of ID for absentee voting, restricted mail in voting, and restriction of some forms of ID.

Voter fraud can occur though. In fact it has occurred. Requiring voter ID counteracts that.

 

[FreeinChrist]

So the democrats wanna defend themselves because it benefits them.

The DNC wants to protect the folks inside just like the RNC wanted to protect those inside. The Secret Service is involved in both conventions regarding security as they provide protection to the candidates. Why is that so hard to understand?

Voter fraud can occur though. In fact it has occurred. Requiring voter ID counteracts that.

Voter fraud like this?

Iowa woman found guilty of voter fraud in support of Republican husband

Kim Taylor of Woodbury county given eight-month custodial sentence for helping Jeremy Taylor fraudulently win election

www.theguardian.com

An Iowa woman found guilty on 52 counts of voter fraud, carried out in support of her Republican husband, was given an eight-month custodial sentence.​

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Kim Taylor, of Woodbury county, will serve four months in prison and four in home confinement, KTIV, a Sioux City TV station, reported. Subject to two years’ supervised release, Taylor will also pay $5,200......​

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“After Taylor’s husband lost in the primary, he ran for Woodbury county supervisor … and Taylor again engaged in ballot fraud, causing absentee ballots to be fraudulently requested and cast.​

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“Taylor submitted or caused others to submit dozens of voter registrations, absentee ballot request forms, and absentee ballots containing false information. Taylor completed and signed voter forms without voters’ permission and told others that they could sign on behalf of relatives who were not present.”​