Humans did NOT evolve from Apes...

[miknik5]

I'm. Sorry.

Yes. So am I

 

[Aman777]

So it could be anywhere, if it is anywhere at all. So no evidence, no explanation, just hand waving.

No. What I am saying is that the bottom of Adam's firmament is somewhere in the Lake and it's empirical evidence of life BEFORE the big bang. Can you give us an estimate of how much such a miles wide object would be worth today? Some Evolutionists would pay Millions to put it back in the Lake, since the discovery will PROVE that the ToE is nothing but a made up fantasy of godless men. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

There's only ONE GOSPEL
And what Aman is preaching isn't it

False accusation from someone who is hiding from telling us of the power of God unto Salvation. It does little good to ask questions of you since you come back with your standard goofy made up Trump like tweets. Tell us how to get to Heaven and we can then determine if you are true or false. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

That's unfortunate.

He must think that capitalizing his made up spam is better than Scripture. Amen?

 

[Subduction Zone]

No. What I am saying is that the bottom of Adam's firmament is somewhere in the Lake and it's empirical evidence of life BEFORE the big bang. Can you give us an estimate of how much such a miles wide object would be worth today? Some Evolutionists would pay Millions to put it back in the Lake, since the discovery will PROVE that the ToE is nothing but a made up fantasy of godless men. God Bless you

Your assertion is not evidence. It is mere hand waving.

You do not have a clue when it comes to what is and what is not evidence. To be "empirical evidence" you need to have access to it in some way. You need to be able to make observations on it and you can't do that.

 

[Aman777]

Your assertion is not evidence. It is mere hand waving.

You do not have a clue when it comes to what is and what is not evidence. To be "empirical evidence" you need to have access to it in some way. You need to be able to make observations on it and you can't do that.

Not yet, but when the bottom half of Adam's firmament is discovered, do you think that might just change your mind? Bow now or bow later, but you knees will bow to God's Truth. God Bless you

 

[Herman Hedning]

Below is a satellite photo of Lake Van. It's the largest Lake in Turkey and 75 miles wide and 1500 ft deep. Notice the Spirals which have formed in the enclosed Lake. There is a really big one in the southern portion of the Lake, another one in the middle between the northern and southern portions and a smaller one in the northern section of the Lake.

The miles wide bottom half of Adam's solid firmament which contained Adam's Earth could fit nicely into the northern or southern section. I believe it's the northern section because the southern section has been drilled. One thing I know is that the solid firmament, which protected Adam's small Earth from the water which totally surrounded it Gen 1:6-8 is STILL there and it is the most valuable Treasure on Planet Earth today. That's because it's evidence of life from BEFORE the big bang of our Cosmos. God Bless you

And you have been told many times right here on this forum what those spirals actually are. Hint: they are not evidence of a sunken firmament. You do realise that people have been living by the lake for thousands of years, right? Wouldn't they have found this firmament by now? More recently people have been scuba diving in the lake - there are even several companies offering diving tours. But maybe the firmament is invisible?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not yet, but when the bottom half of Adam's firmament is discovered, do you think that might just change your mind? Bow now or bow later, but you knees will bow to God's Truth. God Bless you

Plenty of people have made such unsubstantiated claims in the past. They were only shown to be severely deluded at best.

Are you sure that you want to join that crowd?

But on the bright side it appears that you might realize that you have no evidence at all.

 

[Aman777]

And you have been told many times right here on this forum what those spirals actually are. Hint: they are not evidence of a sunken firmament. You do realise that people have been living by the lake for thousands of years, right? Wouldn't they have found this firmament by now? More recently people have been scuba diving in the lake - there are even several companies offering diving tours. But maybe the firmament is invisible?

No Herman, since the bottom of Adam's firmament is buried in 11,000 years of volcanic debris. The Swirl looks like a spinning top from Space and draws wonder from people who see it, since it's visible ONLY from Space. God hid His Truth in the discoveries of Science and Astronomy in the last days. Dan 12:4 That's a good example of HOW to assure that only by Faith could people be saved UNTIL the last days when godless scientists realize that their discoveries keep supporting Genesis chapter one. Watch out for it is already happening. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

Plenty of people have made such unsubstantiated claims in the past. They were only shown to be severely deluded at best.

Are you sure that you want to join that crowd?

But on the bright side it appears that you might realize that you have no evidence at all.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Are you ashamed that you cannot buffalo all Creationists? I've seen you do that with other believers. Your problem with me is that I support my views with the agreement of Scripture, science and history. All you do is claim that I don't know what evidence is. Are you the guru of "evidence" on Planet Earth? You may know all about evidence but you sure don't post any. Do you? Of course not. God Bless you

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Are you ashamed that you cannot buffalo all Creationists? I've seen you do that with other believers. Your problem with me is that I support my views with the agreement of Scripture, science and history. All you do is claim that I don't know what evidence is. Are you the guru of "evidence" on Planet Earth? You may know all about evidence but you sure don't post any. Do you? Of course not. God Bless you

What? Why would any sane person want to join a group of people that have been shown to be delusional?

And please, I do not "buffalo" anyone. And most "believers" do not read the Bible literally. That is a distinct minority these days.

And no, I have already explained this to you and you seemed to understand this. You do not support your claims at all. You do not even know what evidence is so you cannot support your claims with science. You only take verses out of context and wildly reinterpret them, so you have no biblical support. And you do not have historical support either since you ignore all history that disagrees with you, which is the vast majority of it.

I have offered to help you understand the subject of evidence yet you run away. You have no business complaining about that criticism since you won't let others help you.

I am still willing to help you learn, it would make you a better debater. Why run away?

 

[Herman Hedning]

No Herman, since the bottom of Adam's firmament is buried in 11,000 years of volcanic debris. The Swirl looks like a spinning top from Space and draws wonder from people who see it, since it's visible ONLY from Space. God hid His Truth in the discoveries of Science and Astronomy in the last days. Dan 12:4 That's a good example of HOW to assure that only by Faith could people be saved UNTIL the last days when godless scientists realize that their discoveries keep supporting Genesis chapter one. Watch out for it is already happening. God Bless you

Uh huh. So, what about the many other waters that have similar swirls. Are there firmaments hidden there too?

 

[miknik5]

No. What I am saying is that the bottom of Adam's firmament is somewhere in the Lake and it's empirical evidence of life BEFORE the big bang. Can you give us an estimate of how much such a miles wide object would be worth today? Some Evolutionists would pay Millions to put it back in the Lake, since the discovery will PROVE that the ToE is nothing but a made up fantasy of godless men. God Bless you

Adam's in the abyss????

 

[Aman777]

Uh huh. So, what about the many other waters that have similar swirls. Are there firmaments hidden there too?

Show us a larger swirl than the one in the southern section of the Lake. You cannot since you don't find them more than 50 miles in diameter except where the bottom half of Adam's firmament sank, releasing the 450 ft long Ark into the present world. History agrees and Human civilization on this Planet can be traced to Lake Van, Turkey in the mountains of Ararat some 11k years ago. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

Adam's in the abyss????

No. Adam died some 8 thousand years BEFORE the firmament carrying his body sunk in Lake Van scattering Adam's physical remains into the Lake which "clean dissolved" Adam's Earth. Isaiah 24:19 That's God's Truth. God Bless you

 

[miknik5]

No. Adam died some 8 thousand years BEFORE the firmament carrying his body sunk in Lake Van scattering Adam's physical remains into the Lake which "clean dissolved" Adam's Earth. Isaiah 24:19 That's God's Truth. God Bless you

Adam didn't die
He's doing fine

Every man who physically died (prior to CHRIST's first physical coming) are doing fine and are better off than this generation who remains in disbelief

 

[Subduction Zone]

Uh huh. So, what about the many other waters that have similar swirls. Are there firmaments hidden there too?

For a limited time only you can buy your own firmament. Here are some of the sites that are for sale:

And this last one is going fast:

 

[Subduction Zone]

Adam didn't die
He's doing fine

Every man who physically died (prior to CHRIST's first physical coming) are doing fine and are better off than this generation who remains in disbelief

That's right, fictional characters rarely die.

 

[miknik5]

That's right, fictional characters rarely die.

Is CHRIST fictional

 

[Subduction Zone]

Is CHRIST fictional

Poorly asked. There probably was a man named Jesus, or its Jewish equivalent. The Bible stories are highly dubious.