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Human Rights,

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Akasa said:
This really isn't a difficult question, I don't understan the difficulty in it.

The right to do what you want as long as you are not infrining on another's rights.

Umm... I'm not sure if that was supposed to be purposely circular or not. How can you know if you infringing on another person's rights if you don't first define what rights a person has?
 
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Akasa said:
You have a right to do whatever you want. AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT INFRINGING YOUR WILL UPON ANOTHER. I don't understand where I am unclear?

Well that statement is much more clear than your first one.

In your first one you used another person's right as a line to draw for your own rights. When discussing where those rights come from, you can't use rights as a line, because rights is not defined. The reasoning there is a bit circular. If I don't know what your rights are, I can't tell if I'm infringing them.

"Not infringing [sic] your will upon another" is a different statement that makes more sense.
 
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Rights are either a covenant or a contract issue. In a covenant system the government interprets and acts on it's understanding of a covenant. This is the way the US constitution is written. In a contract based system the government writes laws/gives rights relative to current conditions/issues, or who has power. This is where the US is headed.
 
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Akasa said:
This really isn't a difficult question, I don't understan the difficulty in it.

Hello, Akasa. :wave:

My OP questions and theme of this thread are not out of any confusion or difficulty in understanding what human rights are based upon. And there was no implication of any difficulty. I pose these questions and start this thread to solicit all points of view, and perhaps start a meaningful dialogue with different members. If you stick around, you will start to get more comfortable in these discussions. :)

The right to do what you want as long as you are not infrining on another's rights.
And, this is the heart of this discussion. What is that value/concept based upon?
 
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dittomonkey911 said:
This would be a great discussion, but it's in the Wrong Forum. :)

Could be. :)

And if it is, I would understand if a mod moves it. :)


In the mean time, since you like the discussion topic, feel free to post your views. :wave:
 
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I think human rights come from some sort of social concept of empathy.

So human rights are not consistent across the board even here in the US.

We want the "terrorist" to uphold the Geneva Convention with our people but we don't feel it necessary to up hold them because we label them "terrorist", thereby making them less then human, not meeting the standers for eligibility of human rights.
 
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