How Would You React If a Close Sibling Was Gay?

[artybloke]

I will not forsake the Word of God

Good. I'm glad you wouldn't abandon Jesus (the only Word of God the Bible recognises).

However, you might want to think about the infallibility of the various human interpretations of the Bible (including your own) there are out there; instead of thinking you know the truth already and are incapable of learning any more. Because there are different interpretations, whether you like it or not.

As to the OP, I have a cousin who is a post-op Transexual. If that doesn't bother me, I don't how finding out one of my sisters was gay would make any difference.

 

[UnitedInChrist]

Thank you for your advice, but I have done just fine on my own thanks. You seem fairly defensive -- I will not forsake the Word of God because you are passionate or because you can't handle it. I will not change my wording because as I have said countless times, it is out of respect for a certain group -- it has nothing whatsoever to do with you. So yes. It is tough if you don't like it because there is nothing wrong with my wording at at all and it will not be changing.

I know how you feel about the word gay being equated with homosexuality. I disagree. End of story. I'm not arguing about it anymore because I've given perfectly valid reasons. If you still disagree, that's your business.

Living in a same-sex relationship is a lifestyle. Just as living in an opposite-sex relationship is a lifestyle. Just as living alone is a lifestyle. Just as spending 24/7 outdoors is a lifestyle. Just as spending your life in front of the TV is a lifestyle. Having SSA is not a lifestyle. Acting on SSA is a lifetstyle. Now do you see my reasoning for using the terms SSA and gay separately? You probably do, and you probably disagree. Fine. Why beat a dead dog?

Are we finished yet? I've already told you what my answer to the OP is and I've answered all of the problems you have with my posts. We disagree. That's it. Goodnight my dear, dear friend.

You're welcome. While it wasn't advice, I was simply responding to your post. Your examples of lifestyles are valid...but when it comes to sexuality...you believe that to act on ones' sexuality is a lifestyle. To me..it's simply life. No need to beat it to death...it's pointless. Whether I agree with a group or not is not the point..I respect everyone and their choices. I will state my opinon however, as I'm entitled to it. When I see some people running away from who they are..I will also say that. Also, I can handle just about anything on this board which is why I'm quick to respond. No need to turn me into something I'm not. My posts speak for themselves. Agreeing/Disagreeing with them is one thing. I don't think people will look at them and find them hostile, defensive, etc...Your follow up to all of them however is you clearly lashing out at them, and I will call you on it everytime. Please don't say I "foresake" anything becaue "you can't handle it"...that couldn't be further from the truth, and my post shows that. As I've said from the very beginning with your very first post...as a "moderator in training"..I think you need to readjust the way you respond to people. Secondly and most importantly..you are 19. Young with LOTS to learn.

 

[Brieuse]

Aber wir lieben deutsch!

Maar nederlands is heel erg beter

but Dutch is a whole lot better

 

[selfintercession]

Good. I'm glad you wouldn't abandon Jesus (the only Word of God the Bible recognises).

However, you might want to think about the infallibility of the various human interpretations of the Bible (including your own) there are out there; instead of thinking you know the truth already and are incapable of learning any more. Because there are different interpretations, whether you like it or not.

As to the OP, I have a cousin who is a post-op Transexual. If that doesn't bother me, I don't how finding out one of my sisters was gay would make any difference.

It's not my interpretation. It's the interpretation of a 2000-year-old church, and many, many highly-repsected theologians. It is also mainstream. If anything, it looks like you may possibly be allowing your personal experiences and feelings to cloud your judgment.

 

[selfintercession]

You're welcome. While it wasn't advice, I was simply responding to your post. Your examples of lifestyles are valid...but when it comes to sexuality...you believe that to act on ones' sexuality is a lifestyle. To me..it's simply life. No need to beat it to death...it's pointless. Whether I agree with a group or not is not the point..I respect everyone and their choices. I will state my opinon however, as I'm entitled to it. When I see some people running away from who they are..I will also say that. Also, I can handle just about anything on this board which is why I'm quick to respond. No need to turn me into something I'm not. My posts speak for themselves. Agreeing/Disagreeing with them is one thing. I don't think people will look at them and find them hostile, defensive, etc...Your follow up to all of them however is you clearly lashing out at them, and I will call you on it everytime. Please don't say I "foresake" anything becaue "you can't handle it"...that couldn't be further from the truth, and my post shows that. As I've said from the very beginning with your very first post...as a "moderator in training"..I think you need to readjust the way you respond to people. Secondly and most importantly..you are 19. Young with LOTS to learn.

Well no problem. Then please don't make me out to be a gay-hater who thinks that all gay people are diseased as you did in this post and this post just because I use the acronym SSA. That couldn't be farther from the truth (as anyone who reads my posts can see for themselves) and it is deceptive and damaging. Please do not spread filth about me.

In any case, I may have "LOTS" to learn -- but you're no expert either. A 44-year-old is farther from knowing everything than you seem to think. I didn't make this stuff up and decide I know anything. I simply follow an interpretation of scripture that I not only believe to be correct, but that millions if not billions of people around the world do as well. If you have made the decision to go your own route, again, that is your choice, but you seem to think that anybody who disagrees with you simply isn't capable of understaning the truth. Please stop telling me that I can't possibly know what I'm talk about because I'm "only 19" -- it's rude and it's also incorrect.

 

[UnitedInChrist]

It's not my interpretation. It's the interpretation of a 2000-year-old church, and many, many highly-repsected theologians. It is also mainstream. If anything, it looks like you may possibly be allowing your personal experiences and feelings to cloud your judgment.

The reality of the situation is what you are taught, and what you accept, is your interpretation. That is human nature. My friend, if you sent to a church of a different denomination of yours, you would very much learn something different, and it would conflict with what you are taught. Does that make them wrong? Does that make you wrong? No..it makes no one wrong..it is all interpretation. What version of the Bible do you read? The NIV is written differently than a King James Version. Before that, it was even different yet. The Bible wasn't even written in English untilthe 16th century....thousands of years after the original books.
To your point, many respected theologians, scholars, etc..all differ on what they believe the Bible says...they come to an agreement...some don't. Why do you think there are over 100+ denominations of Christianity today? Why do you think there was the Reformation? The Protestant movement..Martin Luther, Calvinists, etc... All of them experts in the field. All of them that have different takes on what the Bible says. You are Roman Catholic I believe, and as such, are taught the Roman Catholic belief system which is 2000+ years old. Nothing wrong with that at all. However, it is the Roman Catholic interpretation that you get, it is what you know, it is what you are taught, and as such, it is what you consider "mainstream" and "correct". Jewish people use the same bible as you do, and trust me...they will believe entirely differently than you, and their faith started thousands of years before Christianity. Are they wrong? It is all open to what you believe, what you've been taught, and what you have as your truth. In all honesty, "religion" as it is..is man made. Ultimately what matters is your FAITH, and your PERSONAL relationship with your Saviour. I currently go to The First Congregational Church of Christ. In fact it was the original religion of the pilgrims when they first came to America, otherwise known as the Puritans. It now falls under the United Church of Christ, and trust me when I tell you...it is rooted in 400+ years of history and very different than what you would be comfortable with. To people of that church...they would tell you it's "mainstream"...just as you believe your church is "mainstream". Talk to fundamentalists that think Catholics are "heretics" and they will tell you their beliefs are "mainstream". In life..you'll always learn...as long as you open urself up 2 it.

 

[selfintercession]

Oh this could go on forever, and ever and ever...

 

[UnitedInChrist]

I retract this post. Not necessary and don't want to turn this into a Rick and Eric show. Thanks! peace.

 

[Brieuse]

It's not my interpretation. It's the interpretation of a 2000-year-old church, and many, many highly-repsected theologians. It is also mainstream. If anything, it looks like you may possibly be allowing your personal experiences and feelings to cloud your judgment.

Just because an opinion is "mainstream" or 2000 years old, doesn't make it right. Also seen many highly respected theologians argue the opposite.

Back to topic, if I found out a sibling is gay?

I suspect my brother is gay. Must ask him sometime.

 

[Jessica Lauren]

I would probably be really shocked, considering both of them are happily married to men, lol.

One of my older sisters said she has known I was gay since I was 12. She's apparently spoken to my mother about it ever since. My mom said she always knew but didn't want to offend me. My other sister always knew, and my Dad well.... he knows nothing. He's a little out of it in all aspects of his family lol. Anyway, when I finally admitted it to my Mom she was just concerned about how OTHERS would treat me. She doesn't agree with it, but she loves me. She's coming around and seeing the light a bit, since it is such a personal subject for her. My oldest sister said, "I knew!" My other sister called me and just didn't care. She was like, "Oh that's cool!" *Shrugs*.

 

[UnitedInChrist]

I would probably be really shocked, considering both of them are happily married to men, lol.

One of my older sisters said she has known I was gay since I was 12. She's apparently spoken to my mother about it ever since. My mom said she always knew but didn't want to offend me. My other sister always knew, and my Dad well.... he knows nothing. He's a little out of it in all aspects of his family lol. Anyway, when I finally admitted it to my Mom she was just concerned about how OTHERS would treat me. She doesn't agree with it, but she loves me. She's coming around and seeing the light a bit, since it is such a personal subject for her. My oldest sister said, "I knew!" My other sister called me and just didn't care. She was like, "Oh that's cool!" *Shrugs*.

Your pic looks like kelly clarkson being hugged by reba macentire.... xo

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I would probably be really shocked, considering both of them are happily married to men, lol.

One of my older sisters said she has known I was gay since I was 12. She's apparently spoken to my mother about it ever since. My mom said she always knew but didn't want to offend me. My other sister always knew, and my Dad well.... he knows nothing. He's a little out of it in all aspects of his family lol. Anyway, when I finally admitted it to my Mom she was just concerned about how OTHERS would treat me. She doesn't agree with it, but she loves me. She's coming around and seeing the light a bit, since it is such a personal subject for her. My oldest sister said, "I knew!" My other sister called me and just didn't care. She was like, "Oh that's cool!" *Shrugs*.

I'm so glad for you & your supportive family!

 

[artybloke]

It's not my interpretation. It's the interpretation of a 2000-year-old church, and many, many highly-repsected theologians.

I'm sure it is. But forgive me if I don't take the tradition of an institution that took 1800 years to realise slavery a sin all that seriously.

And there are lots of other highly respected theologians who disagree with your highly respected theologians.

 

[Der Alte]

[SIZE=-1]I'm sure it is. But forgive me if I don't take the tradition of an institution that took 1800 years to realise slavery a sin all that seriously.[/SIZE]

Right lets all just make up our own rules about everything. Somebody, somewhere, a long time ago thought slavery was OK, so anybody today can do anything they want to do.

In 1798, an English Christian and abolitionist named Granville Sharp published a work on the use of the definite article in the Greek New Testament. The rule which came from this is named for Sharp, and is cited by scholars today, it has never been disproven. During his lifetime he was mostly known for fighting to abolish slavery in England.

[SIZE=-1]And there are lots of other highly respected theologians who disagree with your highly respected theologians.[/SIZE]

Then it should be no problem at all for you to name some of those "Theologians" and quote some of their writings on this.

 

[artybloke]

Why bother arguing with bigots? There's no point.

Right lets all just make up our own rules about everything.

Why should I listen to your rules? Who gave you the authority to tell anyone else how to behave? Who died and made you God?

I follow the Law of Christ, not the law of the Pharisees.

 

[Der Alte]

[SIZE=-1]Why bother arguing with bigots? There's no point.[/SIZE]

That's the same way I feel about people who ignore, misrepresent, and misinterpret scripture to make them fit their own assumptions and presuppositions.

I take this to mean you cannot back up your claim about "other highly respected theologians." Just more pro-homosexual arguments with no meaning.

[SIZE=-1]Why should I listen to your rules? Who gave you the authority to tell anyone else how to behave? Who died and made you God?

I follow the Law of Christ, not the law of the Pharisees..[/SIZE]

Please show me where I ever gave any rules, or told you or anyone else on this forum what to do? You can't respond to my post, so you just make a bunch of wild accusations.

Don't see any Pharisees around here. "I follow the Law of Christ" is just a cop-out you have already rejected most of the scripture.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Why bother arguing with bigots? There's no point.



Why should I listen to your rules? Who gave you the authority to tell anyone else how to behave? Who died and made you God?

I follow the Law of Christ, not the law of the Pharisees.

Oye, oye!

 

[FenderElctrc]

Hi all!
The reason I asked this question is cause I have heard that some people change when they find out that their sibling is gay (came out of the closet) Here is an example, I came across this quote from actress Anne Hathaway about her gay sibling:

I disagree with a couple of the stances of the Catholic Church. My older brother is gay and it's important for me to be able to love him completely and freely and it's important for me to spread beliefs in the world that are not going to limit people in their love.I can't support a religion that doesn't support my brother.

What is your stand point on this topic?

Me well, I would never change what I believe if I knew someone close to me "come out of the closet". IT will NEVER change my relationship with Jesus! I would still care for that individual (Like I think Jesus would) but I am strong with my walk with Christ. I would NEVER preach to them about what i beleive, however if they ask me what i beleive I would HONESTLY tell them but never come down on them or be harsh, I cant imagine Jesus reacting that way. Basically I would what the Good Lord would want me to do!!!! I live for Him, NO ONE ELSE!!!! I care for Jesus 100% that is why I thrive to do what He would want me to do, and that is to spread the Spirit of the Lord, through my joy!

God bless you all!

I think it was wrong for her to say that she can't be in a religion that doesn't support her brother. If her brother shot someone, would she just say that it isn't sin and she wouldn't be in a religion that says it's wrong? Should we turn away from God if a close sibling sins? no.

 

[Jessica Lauren]

Your pic looks like kelly clarkson being hugged by reba macentire.... xo

It was. I changed it again. I love them both hehe... only Kelly Clarkson a tad more.

Wow this topic has gotten OFF topic.

 

[selfintercession]

Just because an opinion is "mainstream" or 2000 years old, doesn't make it right. Also seen many highly respected theologians argue the opposite.

Back to topic, if I found out a sibling is gay?

I suspect my brother is gay. Must ask him sometime.

My point was simply that it's not my interpretation