How were you taught Evolution?

[Kylie]

No, there are millions who reject the inherently atheistic Darwinist creationist viewpoint. No Christian embraces the inherently atheistic view of Darwinist creationism.

I'm still waiting for you to show me where anyone is saying, "No, there is no God involved in the process whatsoever, we have conclusively proved that a deity can't be involved."

 

[Kylie]

Links aren't substance.

Click on the link. It will take you to a webpage. The webpage has the evidence.

How can you not comprehend this?

You just want to pretend that the evidence doesn't exist, don't you?

You pretend it does but can't simply post it.

I posted a link to it. I think you need to understand how this internet thing works.

 

[Kylie]

This is an inherently atheistic worldview of the creation of the variety and complex life we observe today....

"Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations "

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Sorry, I must have missed the bit in there that says, "...and we have conclusively proved that deities of any sort can NOT be involved."

 

[justlookinla]

I'm still waiting for you to show me where anyone is saying, "No, there is no God involved in the process whatsoever, we have conclusively proved that a deity can't be involved."

Do you understand the word "inherently"? As in 'inherently atheistic'?

 

[justlookinla]

Click on the link. It will take you to a webpage. The webpage has the evidence.

How do you know, have you read it? If so, post the evidence you read.

How can you not comprehend this?

You just want to pretend that the evidence doesn't exist, don't you?

And you wish to pretend it does, don't you?

I posted a link to it. I think you need to understand how this internet thing works.

I think you need to understand how this copy and paste thing works.

 

[sfs]

This is an inherently atheistic worldview of the creation of the variety and complex life we observe today....

"Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations "

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No. What you quote is a scientific theory about the diversity of life, one that is studied and accepted by atheists and theists alike. What you claim about it is a falsehood -- something that exists only in your head. It bears no relation to the actual beliefs of real scientists of faith. The fact that you keep repeating the same falsehood over and over, despite numerous pieces of evidence that contradict it, and without offering any support for it, suggest that you are a crazy person. Are you?

 

[sfs]

No, there are millions who reject the inherently atheistic Darwinist creationist viewpoint. No Christian embraces the inherently atheistic view of Darwinist creationism.

I am a Christian. I embrace -- and study for a living -- the theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations. Try dealing with that reality.

 

[justlookinla]

No. What you quote is a scientific theory about the diversity of life, one that is studied and accepted by atheists and theists alike. What you claim about it is a falsehood -- something that exists only in your head. It bears no relation to the actual beliefs of real scientists of faith. The fact that you keep repeating the same falsehood over and over, despite numerous pieces of evidence that contradict it, and without offering any support for it, suggest that you are a crazy person. Are you?

Point out where anything other than the view that humanity is the creation of anything other than totally, completely, solely, naturalistic mechanisms.

"Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations"​

No Christian accepts the view that they are a creation of only, totally, completely, solely naturalistic processes acting on a single life form from long long ago.

 

[Kylie]

How do you know, have you read it? If so, post the evidence you read.

Yes, I have read it. And like I told you earlier, it is ALL evidence. Are you going to ignore what I say now?

And you wish to pretend it does, don't you?

Given that I have actually posted it, and given that you haven't read it and are thus nowhere near qualified to say that it isn't evidence, who are you to say I am pretending?

I think you need to understand how this copy and paste thing works.

So the information from that webpage isn't valid until I cut and paste it into here?

 

[justlookinla]

I am a Christian. I embrace -- and study for a living -- the theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations. Try dealing with that reality.

Ok, let's deal with that reality. Reconcile that with this.....

"Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being."​

 

[sfs]

Quatona has informed us that this definition conforms to what he was taught in Catholic school. This refutes your notion that the above definition is inherently atheistic.

It also conforms to what I've taught in my church, with the full approval of our ministerial staff. (Not that I taught that people had to believe it, but I explained what the theory was, why scientists accept it, and why Christians can accept it.)

 

[justlookinla]

It also conforms to what I've taught in my church, with the full approval of our ministerial staff. (Not that I taught that people had to believe it, but I explained what the theory was, why scientists accept it, and why Christians can accept it.)

Tell me about your church's teaching that mankind is the result of only, totally, completely, solely naturalistic processes acting on a single life form from long long ago.

 

[Kylie]

No, there are millions who reject the inherently atheistic Darwinist creationist viewpoint. No Christian embraces the inherently atheistic view of Darwinist creationism.

You love your ridiculous circular logic, don't you?

Evolution by means of natural selection (and don't tell me that's not what you are talking about, because that's what Darwin came up with) is atheistic, therefore no Christian believes it. And since no Christian believes it, that's evidence that it's atheistic.

 

[justlookinla]

You love your ridiculous circular logic, don't you?

Evolution by means of natural selection (and don't tell me that's not what you are talking about, because that's what Darwin came up with) is atheistic, therefore no Christian believes it. And since no Christian believes it, that's evidence that it's atheistic.

Nope, it's because you're created by this Godless creationist process that it's atheistic.

 

[Kylie]

Oh, and in any case...

Fr Giuseppe Tanzella-Nitti, professor of fundamental theology at the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross: "...evolution is ultimately God’s tool of creation..." from VATICAN Darwin’s theory of evolution is God’s tool for creation, says scholar - Asia News

And, the Catechism of the Catholic Church implicitly supports guided evolution when it states, "Creation … did not spring forth complete from the hands of the Creator. The universe was created 'in a state of journeying' toward an ultimate perfection yet to be attained, to which God has destined it. We call 'divine providence' the dispositions by which God guides his creation toward this perfection."

So, the only way your argument makes any sense is if someone has PROVED that there is no room for God in evolution.

So show me that or drop the subject.

 

[Kylie]

Nope, it's because you're created by this Godless creationist process that it's atheistic.

Huh? Does this make any sense to anyone?

It's atheistic because it made a woman who's an atheist?

 

[justlookinla]

Oh, and in any case...

Fr Giuseppe Tanzella-Nitti, professor of fundamental theology at the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross: "...evolution is ultimately God’s tool of creation..." from VATICAN Darwin’s theory of evolution is God’s tool for creation, says scholar - Asia News

And, the Catechism of the Catholic Church implicitly supports guided evolution when it states, "Creation … did not spring forth complete from the hands of the Creator. The universe was created 'in a state of journeying' toward an ultimate perfection yet to be attained, to which God has destined it. We call 'divine providence' the dispositions by which God guides his creation toward this perfection."

So, the only way your argument makes any sense is if someone has PROVED that there is no room for God in evolution.

So show me that or drop the subject.

This worldview 'proves' there is no need, or room, or allowance, or permission for the worldview of God creating humanity.....

"Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations "​

 

[Kylie]

This worldview 'proves' there is no need, or room, or allowance, or permission for the worldview of God creating humanity.....

"Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations "​

And where does it say that there is no room for God in there?

 

[sfs]

Ok, let's deal with that reality. Reconcile that with this.....

"Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being."​

What's the difficulty? God created and is sovereign over natural processes, including the natural processes that make up evolution. That's very basic theology. Denying God's involvement in wholly natural processes is tantamount to denying God's role as creator, and is an idea that's quite difficult to reconcile with traditional Christian doctrine.

 

[justlookinla]

Huh? Does this make any sense to anyone?

It's atheistic because it made a woman who's an atheist?

No, it's atheistic because Godless creationism created you.