How to understand the 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12

Happygolucky? said:

I’ve heard this but believe it is flawed and here is why.



using the barley harvest is a flawed concept to determine the beginning of the year. It is wholly based on the command of the LORD in



Genesis 1:14





Seasons=mowadim

Taking the state of the barley being Abib, gives confirmation on when ABIB is, the beginning of the year. However the LORD never said it is the barley harvest, but the sun and the moon which determine the mowadim.

Below gives is a general idea of the time of year, late winter. During the time immediately preceding the Passover. So we know the barley should be in the ear at that time

Exodus 9:31-35


Below Elijah called for a drought. We later find out that drought was 3 1/2 years. It was said to be over the entire land.

James 5:17

Do you really believe there was barley in the ear during that time? Of course not.

In 1 Kings 17:1-14

1Now Elijah the Tishbite, who was of [a]the settlers of Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the LORD, the God of Israel lives, before whom I stand, there shall certainly be neither dew nor rain during these years, except by my word.”

When the LORD calls for a drought, and the land fails to bring forth its produce, should the year never begin? During the times of famine and drought there was no barley in the ear, yet the year continued. Because they LORD declared at creation that it is the sun and the moon that determines the mowadim. The barley harvest is made up by man but Genesis 1:14 is a mandate by the LORD.[/u][/s]

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EclipseEventSigns said:

Actually, it was essential to observe the state of the winter barley harvest. The entire population could not harvest or eat until the priest had waved the first barley sheaves before God at the Feast of First Fruits. This was required to happen in the first month of the year at the day after the first weekly sabbath after the Passover (that is Sunday). It was very important to have ripe barley by that point.
The reason why there was no instruction about observing the state of the barley crop in the Exodus is because it ripened at the same time every year in their calendar. At that point in history the year was exactly 360 days long. The beginning of the year could be predicted very far in advance. And this was the case during Elijah's lifetime as well.
However, a couple of hundred years later, around 700 BC, King Hezekiah received a sign from God as God shifted the orbits of the earth and the moon. The year was now 365.25 days and the moon cycle was 29.5 days. This threw the calendars of all cultures into turmoil. There are many records that cultures had to significantly and immediately add days to their calendar. The Jewish calendar then alternated between 30 day and 29 day months. Every 2 to 3 years they had to add an additional month at the end of the year. This is what then required close observation of the barley harvest in order to make sure there was ripe barley for the First Fruits.
You've probably not heard this explanation before. Hardly anyone believes that the orbit of the earth and moon shifted like that. But there actually are historical records that it did indeed happen.

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Happygolucky? said:

Yes, I have absolutely, heard the theory that the shift happened during the reign of Hezekiah


Yes, I understand what they were supposed to do. But the state of the barley did not determine the beginning of the year. It is the sun and the moon. Genesis 1:14 For much of the time throughout pre and post exile of Israel/Judah they did not abide by the statutes. Clearly the northern kingdom quite often didn’t abide by the wave offering, yet the year began. They didn’t even observe the sabbath of the land. They (Judah) were exiled 70 years for not allowing the land to rest. Of course, that’s clearly not the only reason.

There’s many years since Israel entered the land, up until this time, that the wave offering was not done but the year still begins.

It is only the sun and the moon

The Barley would always be Abib, if they obeyed the Lord.

Genesis 1:14

The moon has its part

Psalms

104:19

The sun has its part, by crossing into the equinox.

The year can not begin until the sun crosses the equinox. The sun


The moon determine the day

The best thing we have to go by is the Bible and that teaches it is the sun and the moon. In times of famine, there was no barley to harvest. Yet still, the year began

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