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How to spot False Religion

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There are two things I do to spot a false religion.
First I look for contradictions in the religion to the bible.
Second I ask if Jesus would do that.

Here is some examples of contradictions.

God is a loving merciful creator who loves all of mankind = You will burn in Hell forever. The punishment does not fit the crime and God is a God of Justice. He would not torture someone for eternity for maybe 80yrs of existence.

Jesus is God = John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.,
Plus Jesus did not know when Armageddon was. Only God knows. Also
God can not lie. But if he was Jesus than he lied to us by saying he was his own son. Why not just say,"I am God almighty in the flesh here to set things right." Now that would be the truth, if the trinity was true.

Mary the mother of God = No where in the bible does it claim that Mary, a human, is the mother of the almighty creator She is the mother of his son the lamb of God.

Worship and pray to Mary mother of Jesus = Luke 11: 27-28
27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

In the verse above it shows a woman trying to glorify Mary for giving birth to Jesus But Jesus quickly puts her in her place by telling her to keep to scripture. This verse is very important because it is Jesus saying that we are not to glorify his mother.

Everyone gets to go to heaven including homosexuals =Lev 20:13 and many other versus show that they do not inherit the Kingdom.

If any religion contradicts the bible it is a False Religion. The bible doesn't contradict itself but it will contradict mans doctrine which will flush out the false religions from the real deal.

Now the other way to spot false religion. Just ask Would Jesus do that.

Would Jesus Pray to God his father? = yes
Would Jesus pray to his mother Mary? = No

Would Jesus bow in front of a cross or use a cross? = No
Would Jesus manipulate something to his own advantage? = No
Would Jesus help the sick and dieing? = Yes.
Would Jesus have sex with another man? = No
Would Jesus hide pedophiles with in the structure of the church? = No
Would Jesus fly to Iraq and walk up to a complete stranger and drive a sword through their heart? = No
Would Jesus play Grand Theft Auto = No
Would Jesus watch Saw III = No
Would Jesus pledge his allegence to any country? = No

If Jesus will not do it, than as a Christian I am not to do it. I am to emulate my teacher.

Pretty simple. But these two things will show all false religion and what people take out of context will not matter. You will know the truth. The whole world is wrapped in false religion and hardly anyone knows it or they don't want to believe they have been fooled by the prince of lies and are living in a false religion.

There are no Christians today that are Christ-like. We all claim to be Christian but than go smoke, drink, play video games that kill people, watch movies like Saw III, and road rage. We lie to ourselves everyday that we are good Christians But we know Jesus would never smoke, drink, play video games that kill people, watch movies like Saw III, and road rage. That is the truth of it all no candy coating from me. Those things are evil and are a sin. But we do them everyday and think we're in good favor with God. I saw a stripper once with a crucifix on. You know she felt that she was a good Christian, But would Jesus strip for people. No That means it is wrong and she is not practicing good Christian behavior. It doesn't mean that Jesus does not love her. He loves her greatly and wants her to get out of the unclean thing. I'm not trying to point fingers I am just as guilty as the rest, a matter of fact I'm the worst kind of sinner. I know I'm sinning when I'm doing it but keep doing it anyways. Smoking, playing video games that kill people, watching horrible movies. But I'm working on it.

So if you find that you are in a false religion get out of her as fast as you can run.

 

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There are no Christians today that are Christ-like.

I disagree with pretty well all of your post, but this bit most of all.

If we are not in the least like Christ, not even a little bit, then we are not Christians.

To be a Christian means to follow Christ, and you cannot follow Christ without, day by day and bit by bit, becoming more and more like him. If you are following Christ, whatever denomination you choose to do this from, then you cannot go wrong, nor be in a 'false religion.'

Would you care to provide the Bible verse which says specifically that if a religion contradicts the Bible it is a false religion? There is no such Scripture, and you have made this up for yourself.

Along with much of the rest of your post; would Jesus eat a hamburger? No. Totally anachronistic, and therefore totally meaningless.

Christ is God, and so Our Lady is, indeed, the Theotokos, the God bearer; Mother of God. You can disagree, but you cannot say this is false, because this is what we find in Scripture, and in the faith of our church.

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There are two things I do to spot a false religion.
First I look for contradictions in the religion to the bible.
Second I ask if Jesus would do that.

First, I look for unwavering allegience to a book or charismatic leader.
Secondly, I look for someone unwilling to question assumptions.
 
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I disagree with pretty well all of your post, but this bit most of all.

If we are not in the least like Christ, not even a little bit, then we are not Christians.

To be a Christian means to follow Christ, and you cannot follow Christ without, day by day and bit by bit, becoming more and more like him. If you are following Christ, whatever denomination you choose to do this from, then you cannot go wrong, nor be in a 'false religion.'

Would you care to provide the Bible verse which says specifically that if a religion contradicts the Bible it is a false religion? There is no such Scripture, and you have made this up for yourself.

Along with much of the rest of your post; would Jesus eat a hamburger? No. Totally anachronistic, and therefore totally meaningless.

Christ is God, and so Our Lady is, indeed, the Theotokos, the God bearer; Mother of God. You can disagree, but you cannot say this is false, because this is what we find in Scripture, and in the faith of our church.

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I stand by my post. A contradiction to the bible shows which ones are false religions. The Bible does not contradict itself. Only False Religions.

Example:

Pray and worship Mary = Luke 11: 27-28
27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Here is a contradiction. Now the bible tells me not to glorify her but to keep to the word of God. So that means that people that pray to her are practicing a false religion. As a Christian I can not argue with scripture.

Jesus is God =
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Now you say, I quote "Christ is God" But this verse says that no one has ever seen God. That is a contradiction. Now you say you can prove the Christ is God. Well it does not matter because I have found a contradiction to that theory so I know that the theory is false. Because now to try to make it make sense people run around and take scripture out of context just to say their right
and the contradiction still remains. That is an apostasy.

Religion is like a pure glass of water. People that are thirsty drink from it and it is the purest water ever. Now if I take an eye dropper and drop a drop of urine in the water it's not just a piece of the water that is contaminated but the whole glass and people end up drinking urine water and they don't know it or are to proud to admit they drank the urine water.

Now try to prove the trinity with out a contradiction? Remember the bible can not contradict itself.


 
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The Bible does not contradict itself.

Remember the bible can not contradict itself.

Oh I see. You are joking. You have to accept the first premise in order to play the game.

Sorry. The first premise is blatantly false so the rest of the game is pointless.
 
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You say Would Jesus eat a hamburger? You said No. But I have scripture that says he would.

Mathew 15:17-18 17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? 18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

So see it does not contradict scripture.

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Would Jesus hide pedophiles with in the structure of the church?
That clearly would contradict the scriptures so that would be a false Religion practice.

Keep doing it and you will get the hang of it.
 
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Oh I see. You are joking. You have to accept the first premise in order to play the game.

Sorry. The first premise is blatantly false so the rest of the game is pointless.

It's not the first premise. Test your religion on everything and see what passes and what doesn't

2 timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

If it is not in scripture and it contradicts the Bible it is a false religion.
 
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It's not the first premise. Test your religion on everything and see what passes and what doesn't

2 timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

If it is not in scripture and it contradicts the Bible it is a false religion.
What Paul was talking about was the law. It was the only thing he had to study and teach from (written - wise.)
The New Testament wasn't even written or edited or compiled or debated or compromised and canonized.
 
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Not quite KCAD. Paul was referring to the Old Testament, which is a lot more the the Law.

And isn't 2 timothy one of the disputed letters of Paul anyway?
So you think he was saying his own writing was inspired scripture? It is not what he says in other letters. He admits that it is just his opinion.
 
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Says who or what?

Also, Jesus would definetely drink (or are you one of those who thinks he turned water into grape juice?), and I see no reason why he woudn't smoke.
If the book that is the very foundation of religion and is the word of God it should not contradict itself or it would show the word of God having errors and who would follow it with out being harmonious. Because than I could simply pick and choose what I want out of the bible and say the rest is wrong. I you are a Christian you are to believe in the bible whole heartedly.

Plus your right Jesus did drink. What I meant is stupid drunk. And he would not smoke. Scripture shows that we are to treat our body as a temple. Would you fill your temple of worship with smoke and allow the wall to become black with tar. No one would want to come to your temple.
 
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Bibliolatry? said:
If the book that is the very foundation of religion and is the word of God it should not contradict itself or it would show the word of God having errors and who would follow it with out being harmonious.
The Bible is not the foundation of religion. Also, the Bible is not the word of God. Jesus is the Word of God, not a book.

The Bible is inspired by God, it is not his word. We are not supposed to follow it. It is supposed to lead us to Christ.

Because than I could simply pick and choose what I want out of the bible and say the rest is wrong.

How would part of the Bible being wrong mean I got to arbitrarily choose what was right or not in the rest?

I you are a Christian you are to believe in the bible whole heartedly.

No, if you are a Biblian you are to believe in the Bible whole heartedly. If you are a Christian you are to beleive in Christ whole heartedly.
 
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Anyways were getting off topic.

I say test your own religion.

Look in the bible where it say to worship and pray to Mary. I can show you where it says not to.

Would Jesus pray to his Mother? = No

Does the bible indicate that we are not to glorify Mary = Yes

Luke 11: 27-28 27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.


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You asked, "Would you care to provide the Bible verse which says specifically that if a religion contradicts the Bible it is a false religion? There is no such Scripture, and you have made this up for yourself."

Here is the scripture.

2corinthians 11:14-18 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 16 I say again, let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little. 17 That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. 18 Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also.


Now notice also in the 18th verse. Seeing that many glory after the flesh. I will glory also.

Now I ask
Would Jesus hide pedophiles in the structure of the church?

Yes this is my system of sniffing out false religion. Any religion that does not follow the bible is a false religion. If the religion has contradictions with the bible (the very foundation of the religion) Than there is a problem. Thats what I'm saying.
 
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I would rather leave it to Jesus' words: you shall know them by their fruit. Those who do not produce fruit will be thrown into the fire.

Christianity has: abolished the transatlantic slave trade, promoted and p ushed for Fair trade products, led many social justice campaigns, etc. I call those fruits. Shall we leave it at that and stop bashing each other?

I am horrified by the question 'would a true religion hide peadaphiles in its ranks?' This is quite clearly an attack on catholic brothers and sisters. Let me say this: a few, isolated, tiny occurances of mis-managing crimes can not be used to attack an entire religion. That doesn't make sense. It's like saying America invaded Iraq illegally so all Americans are false and evil.
 
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