How to prove that GOD exists from a scientific point of view?

[Lost Witness]

"And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

 

[Lost Witness]

Ah!

My Apologies for scoffing and laughing at you, Kylie.

 

[Kylie]

"I can slap a Ford Emblem on a Chevy but it's not going to change the fact that I'm driving a Chevy."
^^^^^

Oh, and how about this time when they literally slapped a Ford badge on a car that also came with Chevy badges? Apart from the badge, it was literally the same car.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2016/11/25/that-one-time-both-ford-and-chevrolet-rebadged-the-same-vehicle

 

[Kylie]

You aren't going anywhere with this, because we've got 2 genders,
anything else is a fabrication and a lie, Period.

Once again, someone who can't just answer a simple question.

 

[Kylie]

You haven't given me evidence that removing or adding body parts naturally changes a person's biological make-up? You're the one that needs everything proven scientifically. So prove it? Give me evidence of your claim.

It's got nothing to do with their physical structures and everything to do with their emotional ones.

And they aren't trying to change them. They are trying to make their body look the way they want it to. I doubt you have a problem with women getting breast enhancements, so don't try to pretend that your problem is with the idea of changing the shape of someone's body.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Oh, and how about this time when they literally slapped a Ford badge on a car that also came with Chevy badges? Apart from the badge, it was literally the same car.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2016/11/25/that-one-time-both-ford-and-chevrolet-rebadged-the-same-vehicle

Does that make it an intermark car?

 

[Hans Blaster]

I doubt you have a problem with women getting breast enhancements, so don't try to pretend that your problem is with the idea of changing the shape of someone's body.

I wouldn't make that assumption on this board...

 

[Lost Witness]

I doubt you have a problem with women getting breast enhancements, so don't try to pretend that your problem is with the idea of changing the shape of someone's body.

It's SIN, Kylie.

 

[Kylie]

It's SIN, Kylie.

From my point of view, sin is an imaginary disease invented to sell an unreal cure.

 

[Lost Witness]

From my point of view, sin is an imaginary disease invented to sell an unreal cure.

Sadly the majority agree with you, Kylie.
Though in the end,
We all shall Bow and Confess that Jesus Christ is LORD.

 

[YahuahSaves]

You say "feelings" as though it was just a guess.

So what is it then, if not a guess? They know? How can they know when their body shows the opposite?

What makes a man or woman biologically male or female? There must be markers, otherwise gender theory would have been proven a long time ago.

Once again, someone who can't just answer a simple question.

Same as you. See my above question and answer it honestly, with verifiable evidence.

It's got nothing to do with their physical structures and everything to do with their emotional ones.

So emotional structures are physical evidence? Gee, you have some contradictory ideas there. What's the difference between a person telling you they know their gender to be different to their physical body, and someone telling you they know God? How are they separated? They both appear to be "beliefs" according to your idea of belief.

I doubt you have a problem with women getting breast enhancements

I do actually. It's pretty sad the world has conditioned people to the point they believe their outer image is the most important thing and not their hearts. Man looks at the body, God looks at the heart.

 

[YahuahSaves]

From my point of view, sin is an imaginary disease invented to sell an unreal cure.

So what's your cure for the state the world is in? If you'd watched the video I posted earlier, you would have opened your eyes to the insidious and far reaching infection of sin.

 

[SelfSim]

So emotional structures are physical evidence? Gee, you have some contradictory ideas there. What's the difference between a person telling you they know their gender to be different to their physical body, and someone telling you they know God? How are they separated? They both appear to be "beliefs" according to your idea of belief.

Beliefs can produce a kind of reality which depends on the mind.
If someone truly believes they know their gender, then they are telling you their gender is real.
To not listen to them about that, is just some observer deleting that demonstrable evidence, from the totality of demonstrable evidence.
Any theory of gender should address the totality of objective observations on that topic .. (and not just delete a bunch of them because it doesn't fit into some other notion).

 

[AV1611VET]

If someone truly believes they know their gender, then they are telling you their gender is real.
To not listen to them about that, is just some observer deleting that demonstrable evidence, from the totality of demonstrable evidence.

I took my Monopoly money down to the bank to deposit it and they threw me out.

So I took real money down to the bank and told them the ones were fiftys, and guess what?

They threw me out again!

 

[YahuahSaves]

Beliefs can produce a kind of reality which depends on the mind.
If someone truly believes they know their gender, then they are telling you their gender is real.
To not listen to them about that, is just some observer deleting that demonstrable evidence, from the totality of demonstrable evidence.

So if beliefs can be scientifically proven or adhered to, why not do the same for the belief in God?

 

[SelfSim]

I took my Monopoly money down to the bank to deposit it and they threw me out.

So I took real money down to the bank and told them the ones were fiftys, and guess what?

They threw me out again!

Economics is based on consistency. The purpose of Mathematics' symbols and tautologies is to maintain that consistency.

 

[Kylie]

Sadly the majority agree with you, Kylie.
Though in the end,
We all shall Bow and Confess that Jesus Christ is LORD.

I am not convinced of that, since I have not been presented with evidence that shows that claim as being correct.

 

[SelfSim]

So if beliefs can be scientifically proven or adhered to, why not do the same for the belief in God?

No .. beliefs, by definition, are objectively untestable. That doesn't mean they can't be used to assign meaning to the word 'exists' (or 'is real'). This is not an opinion. Its an inference based on the outcome of abundantly demonstrable objective tests, from across the totality of thinking (healthy) human minds (thus far).
The objective method has no use for proofs. Math does though.

 

[Kylie]

So what is it then, if not a guess? They know? How can they know when their body shows the opposite?

How do you know that you are whatever gender you believe yourself to be?

And as I've already said, I believe myself to be a woman. This is not because of the shape of my genitals, since the removal of those genitals will not change the way I identify.

Same as you. See my above question and answer it honestly, with verifiable evidence.

You are trying to change the topic. We are not talking about the biological structures that a person has between their legs.

So emotional structures are physical evidence? Gee, you have some contradictory ideas there. What's the difference between a person telling you they know their gender to be different to their physical body, and someone telling you they know God? How are they separated? They both appear to be "beliefs" according to your idea of belief.

The difference is that I don't see trans people trying to tell me that I should be trans too.

By the way, there is evidence that trans people's minds really are the gender they claim to be.

"Some of the first biological evidence of the incongruence transgender individuals experience, because their brain indicates they are one sex and their body another, may have been found in estrogen receptor pathways in the brain of 30 transgender individuals." SOURCE

I do actually. It's pretty sad the world has conditioned people to the point they believe their outer image is the most important thing and not their hearts. Man looks at the body, God looks at the heart.

And what about if a person is born with a deformity, their body is not the way it should be? Is it okay in your eyes for such a person to have surgery to correct that? To get their body looking a way that makes the person happy?

 

[YahuahSaves]

That doesn't mean they can't be used to assign meaning to the word 'exists' (or 'is real'). This is not an opinion. Its an inference based on the outcome of abundant objective tests.
The objective method has no use for proofs. Math does though.

OK so, according to you, based on a transgender person's belief they are the opposite gender, and not the one they were born with, this is verifiable mathematically, but a belief in God isn't? Sounds contradictory to me.