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What do you mean by that? Is that more sarcasm or is it a genuine response?
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What do you mean by that? Is that more sarcasm or is it a genuine response?And many claim holy spirit- help but
the True readings are quite various.
No sarcasm.What do you mean by that? Is that more sarcasm or is it a genuine response?
I said clearly, not plainly. The Holy Spirit changes the interpretation of scripture from the face value that a lot of people take it as.
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What does that have to do with the holy spiritWithout elaborating, it's this very issue that plays into the application of one of those "big academic words" that, apparently, so many people seem to be afraid of these days---Christians especially! (Probably because they don't think they have to be accountable for their interpretations or the application of those interpretations.)
The core problem that pours over into modern praxis boils down to the following: because Christians read their New Testaments and they see the writers use bits and pieces of the Old Testament in what seem to be "wonky ways," lots of Christians also seem think to they have the same license to do so as well.
Of course, Estrid, being that you're educated and not a Christian, you probably aren't prone to making this kind of mistake.
No it's often said one has to be born of the spirit (born again) for scripture to have revelation as it's only God that can truly do this. Similarly, like everything else mentioned in scripture. The only people that do not have the ability to read scripture beyond surface level are those of us not born again. However, God can lead us to scriptures to answer questions relating to our personal journeys.We are told that God helps certain people
to understanding of Bible verses, gives
special access to arcane knowledge denied to
others.
Often bible studies in many churches centre around reading scripture and getting people's opinions on what it means to them and how they can apply the lessons to their own lives.I've heard a number of people claim they get
this help, but they don't report the same results.
Consequently I don't believe any of them.
A bit of both. I see it more like a study on human behaviour patterns and the fact that history repeats itself. Humans can't rule adequately no matter how much they try.How does it seem to you? History or some
metaphor?
What does that have to do with the holy spirit
helping people to figure what it means?
I do, BTW, often enough find myself up and
talking to people in the USA in what my
time zone says is the middle of the night.
And a lot of said people habitually talk in
American business jargon.
There's no big words involved, but it is very
annoying and certainly interferes with clear
communication.
" international english" does not use idioms or
jargon.
I like to talk geology, which has its own specialized
vocabulary, terms that lack meaning to those not
accustomed to their use.
If I were talking to a doctor, say, who has enough
"big words" to choke a python, I would use plain
English to describe geology.
I am not "afraid" of your so- called big words,
and I doubt anyone else is.
What you do with your jargon is not very
espectful to your readers
as the dedicated paragraph you led off with,
sneering at those benighted who are scared
of your powerful vocabulary makes the contempt
plain enough for all.
And, when you are done flaunting, often as not
you've said nothing.
As it your total non response to my request
for an explanation of your cryptic warning.
Your way of describing "divine guidance" isNo it's often said one has to be born of the spirit (born again) for scripture to have revelation as it's only God that can truly do this. Similarly, like everything else mentioned in scripture. The only people that do not have the ability to read scripture beyond surface level are those of us not born again. However, God can lead us to scriptures to answer questions relating to our personal journeys.
Often bible studies in many churches centre around reading scripture and getting people's opinions on what it means to them and how they can apply the lessons to their own lives.
A bit of both. I see it more like a study on human behaviour patterns and the fact that history repeats itself. Humans can't rule adequately no matter how much they try.
What does that have to do with the holy spirit
helping people to figure what it means?
What does that have to do with the holy spirit
helping people to figure what it means?
I do, BTW, often enough find myself up and
talking to people in the USA in what my
time zone says is the middle of the night.
And a lot of said people habitually talk in
American business jargon.
There's no big words involved, but it is very
annoying and certainly interferes with clear
communication.
" international english" does not use idioms or
jargon.
I like to talk geology, which has its own specialized
vocabulary, terms that lack meaning to those not
accustomed to their use.
If I were talking to a doctor, say, who has enough
"big words" to choke a python, I would use plain
English to describe geology.
I am not "afraid" of your so- called big words,
and I doubt anyone else is.
What you do with your jargon is not very
espectful to your readers
as the dedicated paragraph you led off with,
sneering at those benighted who are scared
of your powerful vocabulary makes the contempt
plain enough for all.
And, when you are done flaunting, often as not
you've said nothing.
As it your total non response to my request
for an explanation of your cryptic warning.
Snark? I didn't remotely suggest that.Actually, I wasn't trying to be snarky to you in that previous post. I was paying you a compliment while explaining the problem, and I did that because I thought it may apply.
Don't make me have to reconsider that compliment, Estrid!
(Although, I will say that your post has me seriously reconsidering the use of any kind of wit or humor whatsoever since it seems that folks tend to ... ... ...)
An example of a straightforwardWhat it implies is that the "Holy Spirit" probably isn't actualy involved all that much in the interpretation that Christians do....at least not after the 1st century (A.D.) anyway.
But they all sure do like to claim that He is (...usually by citing and interpreting certain favored verses that they then circularly use to support the notion.)
The difference is the Holy Spirit (being born again) when it comes to guidance and discernment, both scripturally and with things such as the gifts.Your way of describing "divine guidance" is
exxentially pointing to distinctions without a
difference.
And I certainly have had people tell me that god
tells the right meanings.
The flood story is a good example of various true
God- inspired true meaning.
40% of Americans think every word is literal
history.
You evidently think it's something else.
Others go for the " hydroplate theory" or
pure metaphor.
How do you account for God telling people such
contradictory things?
Ok, Estrid. How would you like for me to communicate, then?Snark? I didn't remotely suggest that.
I said you are disrespectful.
I don't need a "compliment" that ive some education.
Use of obscure jargon is far from witty or humorous.
" I'd be careful... "
Yes I realised that but she didn't.What? That was posted to Pipp, not to you.
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