How to prove that Christianity is superior?

[Bible Highlighter]

Jesus is real and the Bible is real and they can change your life if you just repent of your sins and accept Christ as your personal Savior.

That is not the end of the story.

Where did I ever say that it was the end of the story?

You Have a Date...

Dating arrangement is not supported by the Bible.

First, if you were to read the actual tract, you would reailize this is not any ordinary date. Second, do you not think that God is not a match maker and does not set up His people to date (i.e. for men of God to meet women of God whereby they would love each other and to have a loving family)? Have you ever read the story about how Isaac met Rebekah? (See Genesis 24).


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[tickingclocker]

All kinds of demeaning activities, false claims and animal instincts do not amount to worshiping. Our God is not a God of confusion but of order. Venting of one's emotions once in a week inside a church don't carry any spirituality.



So you can have a choice of truth?

Why are you accusing me of such off-the-wall things? There is only one God, one Lord, one Faith. You cannot have a "choice of truth" when there is only one truth. We all believe in the same Lord whether you accept that or not.

I know who I am in Jesus Christ, and no one can or ever will take that truth from me. Obviously you have not experienced the guarantee of the Holy Spirit's indwelling, considering you don't really know if you are heaven-bound or not. I hope and pray you someday find the peace you need to fully accept the Lord's power in your life, instead of... trying... to tear apart and knock everyone else down.

 

[OldAsDirt]

Everything depends on the foundational documents and the Spirit which convicts and converts.

I agree Lazarus. The Holy Spirit draws people to Jesus. When I was a teenager I did not believe in God. I could not deduce logically there was a God. In fact, most if not all of my family are atheists. One night I went to a home bible study with a friend. They opened with prayer. When they began to pray I felt a great loving presence descend into the room and fill it. I knew in that instant I did not want to ever be separated from that presence again. It has never left me, though I have strayed at times. I didn't argue with anyone prior to encountering Jesus. But looking back there was a time when I was thinking about Jesus. Very briefly I said, "Who are you anyway?" It took five years, but I believe He finally showed me.

 

[Albion]

Why are you accusing me of such off-the-wall things?

It doesn't look to be anything personal. We all have gotten back the same kind of response, so it's probably something that predates any of our posts here on CF.

 

[tickingclocker]

It doesn't look to be anything personal. We all have gotten back the same kind of response, so it's probably something that predates any of our posts here on CF.

No, I didn't take it as personal. It just seems so bizarre that the poster isn't considering anything but his own opinion. He is mass-judging everyone with the same narrow end of his own homemade telescope. It sounds like he has a whole lotta hurt going on inside. It seems he cannot [or refuses to] see the good in anyone or any church for his own myopic reasons. As if he expects everyone to BE perfect? There's no room in his mind for "being perfected" for anyone else, except for himself, naturally. Whatever. I know a brick wall when I hear one. The bricks believe they have some sort of authority. It comes down to a matter of "density"....

 

[Albion]

No, I didn't take it as personal. It just seems so bizarre that the poster isn't considering anything but his own opinion.

I know.

He is mass-judging everyone with the same narrow end of his own homemade telescope. It sounds like he has a whole lotta hurt going on inside.

That's pretty much what I was saying. Or animosity for a reason we can only guess at.

 

[tickingclocker]

I know.


That's pretty much what I was saying. Or animosity for a reason we can only guess at.

Pray for him. That's all we can do. God knows him, inside and out--that we can count upon.

 

[Righttruth]

First, God's Word claims that it is perfect (Psalms 12:6) (Psalms 119:140) (Proverbs 30:5) and that it will be preserved for all generations (Psalms 12:7) and it will stand forever (Isaiah 40:8) (1 Peter 1:25). Therefore, seeing Scripture plainly states these facts, it then becomes an issue of a test of your faith in God's Word (See the test the devil gave to Eve in Genesis 3:1). For the devil said, "Yea, hath God said?" This was said in regards to whether or not she could trust God's Word exactly or not. Are you being tricked just like Eve in doubting God's Word?

Hearing God through the Holy Spirit is definitely far superior to written words. Because on one has the power to alter or modify the words so spoken whereas written words can be manipulated and have been manipulated. Nothing has equaled what happened on the day of Pentecost. Satan was tricking Eve on what Eve had not heard. He invented his own imagination to dupe her. A sincere doubter, like, apostle Thomas will be clarified.

"For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe." (1 Thessalonians 2:13).

Notice what is heard, not what is read.

In Jeremiah 36, God had another scroll re-written with His words after King Jehoiakim burned the original one. In other words, Scripture is showing here that God was preserving His Word.

You seem to give more importance to an inanimate object than to a living God.

Second, ask yourself, if a person cannot trust one word in their Bible, what makes them trust the rest of it? For it is either all correct or it is all false. It's either the Holy Bible (divinely inspired) or it's a holey bible (full of holes and discrepancies). In other words, if God's Word claims to be perfect, we have to believe that there is a perfect Word of God out there somewhere for us today (that we can understand). The way to find this perfect Bible is to do a fruits test. While I believe this Bible to be the KJV (King James), I also use Modern Translations to help update Early Modern English (i.e. 1600's English) to Late Modern English (i.e. Today's English). In other words, I look at Modern Translations sort of like panning for gold. I sift thru the dirt so as to get to the gold that can found in the KJV and the original languages (Hebrew - Old Testament and the Greek - New Testament).

I trust God, not the versions. All kinds of adulteration is going on in the new texts.

Well, the Bible is the only book in human history that has been confirmed by even secular sources for it's accuracy thru out time. The variation of small changes the texts in the major languages thru out history is very minor. As for the Modern Translations that came about in the 1800's, these are not pure translations from the Textus Receptus but they are based upon a different set of texts that were translated by two men (Westcott and Hort) who were more like spiritualists than Christians.

http://av1611.com/kjbp/charts/themagicmarker.html

For...

That doesn't really answer the topic of the thread. Are the believers trying to attain purity?

20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."
(2 Peter 1:20-21).
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"
(2 Timothy 3:16).

That cannot be applied to writings of the NT.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_language
(Please read the second paragraph, it says the world language today is English)

Also, if you were to go to Google and type in, "What is the world language?"
Google will tell you it is English.
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+world+language?&oq=what+is+the+world+language

What is the use? It is not the language of Jesus?

While there were select chosen languages thru out time that God used to preserve His Word perfectly, the King James is the perfect Word of God for the world language today or the perfect Word provided for the past several hundred years.
Yes, it is spoken in 1600's English, but I believe that is just another way to prevent worldly or sinful people from understanding it.
In recent years, there is also the Spanish Translation of the Bible that is faithfully based off the Textus Receptus (like the KJV), as well.

Mistakes of KJV are well known. Just think of others.

If Christ (God) can hold together the universe by the word of His power, it is a no brainer that God can preserve His own Word and would not want it corrupted by men. For again, if there was a loop hole whereby a person could not trust God's Word entirely, then it would give man a reason to reject His Word as not being trust worthy or true. Also, the original manuscripts not being available does not mean that there is not a reliable translation that is not perfect for us today. That would be like claiming you cannot ride in a certain sports car because it is no longer the original model. If the purpose of the car is to get you from Point A to Point B, then the car serves a purpose. The Bible is very much like this. The Bible produces faith that gets you to repent of your sins towards God thru Christ Jesus (Whereby we can have a relationship with Him - walking in His good and righteous ways).

That is the main thrust of this thread. What is the use in wrecking oneself driving a original model?

Well, just so that there is no confusion here, I do not believe in Catholicism. Now, if you are using the word "catholic" in the sense of it meaning "original" only and you are not referring to Roman Catholicism, then the answer to that question would be Westcott & Hort and those who decided to create Modern Translations based off their works after the 1800's.

It is Catholics (Monks and saints) who gave the Scripture and all other NT writings preserving them with great diligence and dedication. It would not have been possible with Protestants with other interests of the world. Your source is there.

No. All of the words in your Bible would be from the Lord Jesus Christ because Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh.

No where in the Bible you find Jesus being called Almighty God. Do you believe in distorted Oneness doctrine?

The Old Covenant has been replaced by the New Covenant. Hebrews 7:12 says the Law has changed.In fact, we see a change in the Law made by Jesus Christ Himself. He told us to no longer render an eye for an eye but to turn the other cheek. Peter was told that we can now eat unclean animals (Which is a violation of OT Law). The temple veil was torn from top to bottom when Christ died upon the cross. In other words, the animal sacrifices as prescribed in the Old Law are now no longer acceptable. Jesus is now our perfect sacrifice. Paul says if you seek to be circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing (Galatians 5:2). We are New Covenant believers and not Old Covenant believers;

Now it is longer the letter of the Law, but the spirit of it.

And there is no new Command in the New Testament telling us to observe the Saturday Sabbath (like with the Law of Moses). Paul says some regard every day alike (Romans 14:15). For we are not to judge anyone in regards to Sabbaths (Colossians 2:16). In the Old Testament, if one broke the Sabbath, they could be stoned to death (Numbers 15:32-36). To put it to you another way, the Saturday Sabbath is no longer binding. So only 9 out of the 10 Commands in Exodus 20 are still valid for believers in the Lord today.

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Jesus has clearly clarified that Sabbath is for man, not man for Sabbath. It is good for physical as well as spiritual being. You cannot ignore that and join the mad, mad world all the days.

 

[Righttruth]

God has provided “assurance” to true Christians by providing them with the indwelling Holy Spirit, which they can know they have. If God is provide such a huge wonderful gift as the indwelling Holy Spirit there is little reason to doubt His other promises.

There is no question of doubting His promises. Are we using His gifts with humility and dignity? Is it an arrogance of assumptions with regard to salvation?

God’s Love is totally unconditional, but being a free gift which we can possess means it is ours to refuse if we choose to.

A typical wrong presumption. God loves us unconditionally no matter in what state we are in, and then transform our lives to please Him. No transformation, no love of God.

What “fruits” is God’s Love contingent on?

Paul lists some of them in Galatians.

The branches withered because they refused to take the nourishment from the vine, it is not the vines fault nor is it the pruner’s fault for cutting off the dead branches.

Right. But people are claiming automatic nourishment from Jesus no matter what.

We are told we can quench the Spirit.

Hebrews 2:
1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

 

[Righttruth]

Why are you accusing me of such off-the-wall things? There is only one God, one Lord, one Faith. You cannot have a "choice of truth" when there is only one truth. We all believe in the same Lord whether you accept that or not.

Then why so many sects and denominations, each one trying to catch the throat of the other?

I know who I am in Jesus Christ, and no one can or ever will take that truth from me. Obviously you have not experienced the guarantee of the Holy Spirit's indwelling, considering you don't really know if you are heaven-bound or not. I hope and pray you someday find the peace you need to fully accept the Lord's power in your life, instead of... trying... to tear apart and knock everyone else down.

Even when you dwell in Christ, without the fruit of the Spirit, you are lost.
John 15:
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

God has provided “assurance” to true Christians by providing them with the indwelling Holy Spirit, which they can know they have. If God is provide such a huge wonderful gift as the indwelling Holy Spirit there is little reason to doubt His other promises.

Go compare their lives with their neighbors. See who is living a holy , set apart life.
Multitudes appear on Judgment Day thinking they've got it made.
The Judge tells them "bye bye".
There is then no chance at all for them.

 

[Righttruth]

Where did I ever say that it was the end of the story?
First, if you were to read the actual tract, you would reailize this is not any ordinary date. Second, do you not think that God is not a match maker and does not set up His people to date (i.e. for men of God to meet women of God whereby they would love each other and to have a loving family)? Have you ever read the story about how Isaac met Rebekah? (See Genesis 24).
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Preposterous presumption! Issac's was an arranged marriage. They did not go on date to cuddle together and exchanging carnal kisses (the recent trend includes sex)--an invention of deteriorating religious culture of the West dating back to about 200 years.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Then why so many sects and denominations, each one trying to catch the throat of the other?

The key is to seek God and God's Kingdom - He will reveal to you then those who are His. There is a very noticeable difference in their lives, just a there was in the true believers in the NT - SO OBVIOUS that Yochanan the immerser refused to immerse those who did not repent. It is that obvious today also, as God permits (it to be seen; remember most never get to even see God's Kingdom).

Even when you dwell in Christ, without the fruit of the Spirit, you are lost.

That appears to be distorted/ compartmentalization / separating things that cannot be separated the same way the lungs and the heart and the liver cannot be removed from a body and the body still live normal and healthy.
You may never have seen anyone dwell in Christ, but when you do, and until then, PRAY and GIVE THANKS to GOD with great Thanksgiving for such a blessing, and learn from Jesus.

 

[Righttruth]

He is mass-judging everyone with the same narrow end of his own homemade telescope.

It is the Holy Spirit's prompting, (not homemade telescope) to warn majority of Protestants who have a narrow perspective based on 'tail-oscopic' view on the NT, assessing the Gospel books from Paul's appendix.

It sounds like he has a whole lotta hurt going on inside. It seems he cannot [or refuses to] see the good in anyone or any church for his own myopic reasons. As if he expects everyone to BE perfect?

I see good in all in some aspects, also bad. I don't have the tendency to defend the fault. I am not expecting everyone to be perfect. My question is are we striving to be perfect, not just complacent and jolly?

There's no room in his mind for "being perfected" for anyone else, except for himself, naturally.

That is the crux of the problem of passing the buck. It is our responsibility to yield to the Spirit for being perfected.

 

[tickingclocker]

Then why so many sects and denominations, each one trying to catch the throat of the other?



Even when you dwell in Christ, without the fruit of the Spirit, you are lost.
John 15:
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Your personally held opinion does not rule the Lord.

He who lives to judge will someday be judged by his own severity.

 

[tickingclocker]

It is the Holy Spirit's prompting, (not homemade telescope) to warn majority of Protestants who have a narrow perspective based on 'tail-oscopic' view on the NT, assessing the Gospel books from Paul's appendix.



I see good in all in some aspects, also bad. I don't have the tendency to defend the fault. I am not expecting everyone to be perfect. My question is are we striving to be perfect, not just complacent and jolly?



That is the crux of the problem of passing the buck. It is our responsibility to yield to the Spirit for being perfected.

I think you are just arguing to argue--with everyone on here, and most likely anywhere else. Have a nice life holding that half empty glass. But I'll let you have the last word. It is your question, after all.

 

[bling]

Go compare their lives with their neighbors. See who is living a holy , set apart life.
Multitudes appear on Judgment Day thinking they've got it made.
The Judge tells them "bye bye".
There is then no chance at all for them.

Do you see an advantage for the true Christian to know they have a birthright to eternal life in heaven that cannot be taken from them and they would have to give it up themselves to "loss" it?

 

[bling]

There is no question of doubting His promises. Are we using His gifts with humility and dignity? Is it an arrogance of assumptions with regard to salvation?



A typical wrong presumption. God loves us unconditionally no matter in what state we are in, and then transform our lives to please Him. No transformation, no love of God.



Paul lists some of them in Galatians.



Right. But people are claiming automatic nourishment from Jesus no matter what.



Hebrews 2:
1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

Do you see an advantage for the true Christian to know they have a birthright to eternal life in heaven that cannot be taken from them and they would have to give it up themselves to "loss" it?

 

[Purple Haze]

No where in the Bible you find Jesus being called Almighty God. Do you believe in distorted Oneness doctrine?

It says quite clearly that Jesus is Almighty God. Read the first chapter of John-

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God...

...And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Do you see an advantage for the true Christian to know they have a birthright to eternal life in heaven that cannot be taken from them and they would have to give it up themselves to "loss" it?

Advantage? no. BLESSING? YES ! God's Generous Perfect Complete Provision for Life Now, ToDAY, and for All Eternity - Assurance (true Assurance) Peace Joy and Righteousness TODAY for the True Christians.