The whole universe is capable of folding up and disappearing in a day when God ordains it. Lions are capable of eating grass in God's created nature. The forces we see in the temporary nature are not to be taken as the marker for eternity. Sorry.When I talk about the physical forces of the universe I'm talking about things like the gravitational, electromagnetic, strong nuclear, and weak nuclear forces. Things you claim are capable of changing at a moments notice.
Nova has a program about the Science of Origami that does talk about the theory that the universe is unfolding. As compared to theories that the universe is expanding or inflating.
According to Gerald Schroeder. Each day in Genesis is half the length of the day before. In the Bible we read: "God said" and this takes place at the beginning of the day. Then we read: "God saw that it was good." This takes place at the end of the day. So I accept BOTH YEC and OEC as true from their own perspective. Adam and Eve were real people that lived in a very Real Garden of Eden around 6,000 years ago. This can all be confirmed from our study of History and our study of Science. Math also can be used to confirm how accurate and precise the Bible is.
They sit around folding paper in a room and think that is how the universe must be. Fake news science sits around in a room and uses present state temporary nature and thinks that is how the universe must be. In either case, they should not be taken too seriously. I would think it is akin to a mental illness.
Why stop there when making stuff up? How about each day is a million times longer than the day before?
How would a day or commenting at the end of one of the creation days relate to OEC? Naturally after a creation day God looked at all that was done that day.
He does not make stuff up. First of all he has a Phd in Physics and he has studied the Kabbalah extensively. If you would like to present your version of OEC then give it your best shot.
The science of Origami is based on the Ancient Japanese art of Origami. If you watched the program on Nova that would explain it a lot better then I could. The concept that life or the universe is unfolding is not new. Origami is a model that helps us to understand how this unfolding takes place. There are 10 dimentions and yet they all converge on a single point in time. https://phys.org/news/2014-12-universe-dimensions.html
Yes, those claiming days are mysteriously longer exponentially or shorter for no apparent reason are making stuff up, no matter what silly degree they have.
Physics is fine in it's place. Trying to invent alternate universes based on the laws and time and space and realities of earth is not OK.
We are not talking about the physical day being longer or shorter. We are talking about the "days" in Genesis chapter one. Moses tells us in Psalms that a day is 1,000 years. It is a lot easier for me to explain YEC then it is to explain OEC and that is why I leave OEC up to people like Gerald Schroeder that have real Phds and have studied this a lot more then I have. If you want to go by the people that have fake Phd's then don't expect that they are going to have as much understanding. If you want to show me your Phd and tell me what university you got it from then I will be interested in what you have to say because then you would be considered to be an expert. For now until we get a degree of accomplishment then we are little more then students.
Right, where plants were created a few days before the sun. Not like anyone could claim plants lived millions of years waiting for the sun!
Well, Adam was made on a certain day. The stars were made to mark time for man. Adam lived so many days and years. Nothing to do with what 1000 yrs is like compared to eternity. If Jesus was killed about the third hour of the day do we use your verse there too? Ridiculous.
That won't help them. They can't defend it.
You seem impressed by paper diplomas. I am impressed with the wisdom of God. I am unimpressed with the wisdom of man, it is foolishness.
Actually a year may have been 360 days then and the orbits and such different accordingly. The bible says nothing about the minutes you talk about.
Only where there was time and an earth existing.
He had no clue what he was talking about. Really. Not when it came to trying to apply his numbers to creation. (unless that is you trying to do that? Ha)
Having an unfinished planet one day has nothing to do with a universe or great time. The stars came after earth.
In your imagination. Not in the bible.
I comprehend that. Not sure why you posted it or what you think it means though.
Amazing waste of a life eh? To end up speaking rubbish and foolishness after all that is telling.
If you're reading the skeptics Bible.
It is significant that Jesus died on the third hour of the day. Just like it is significant that He rose again on the third day. You should do a study on all the scriptures that use the two words: third & day.
The Bible talks about the perfect day: Prov 4 18 "But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day." Right now we are about 4 minutes less than a 24 hour day. The spin rate of the earth is slowing down so the perfect day would be exactly 24 hours and the perfect year could be exactly 360 days.
So people with Phd's are "ridiculous", "they can not defend what they believe" and "they do not know what they are talking about." Be careful how you judge others because you may be judging yourself and projecting that out on them. Matthew 7 2 :"For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you."
I have shown again and again that there is no conflict between the Bible and Science. Science is based on a study of the natural evidence that God has given to us. We do not have perfect understanding. Paul says "For now we see through a glass, darkly". This is not yet the perfect day when our understanding will be perfected. Our understanding of Science and our understanding of the Written Word of God.
I never thought about how a whole life being wasted. If and when we serve God He causes all things to work out for the best. Romans 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." It is not my place to judge who is and who is not saved. That is the job of the Angles at the end of this age.
As significant as it may be He still died at that time.
The word can be used that way.
Judging truth from lies is what we can do, not judging people. PHDs are worthless when it comes to Scripture truth...less than worthless, as they engender doubts.
It is based on assuming the present natural existed in the past actually for all origins issues.
We need belief to believe in creation, not some perfect understanding.
?? WE will judge angels, not them us!
John tells us that: "Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. John 21:25. I can not imagine that there would be anything in the Bible that did not have meaning and significance. Because there clearly is a LOT that is not in the Bible. Like Schroder says there are 32 verses in Genesis chapter one and there are hundreds of thousands of science books that explain what we read about in those 32 verses.
We need to study history, science and the Bible. We need to be an expert in all three. The problem is when someone wants to study one more than the other two and they get out of balance that way. We may run into people that have a phd level of science yet they can not even function at a third grade level in their understanding of the Bible. These are the people that need to be challenged to grow in their understanding.
I should have given you the passage I was referring to Matthew 13:39 "The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels." "First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn." (13:30)
So we should what, ask you what was missing!? No matter what else could not fit in the bible, it would not change what a day is or what time of the day someone died.
Great, so what we we also need his book for?? Third rate guesswork?
We actually need to become as little children and actually believe. A lot of those know it alls and jack of all worldly wisdom types are just confused egotists.
Just because angels gather wicked together and separate wheat from tares doesn't mean they judge us. They are more like sheriffs, that bring the Christ rejectors to court to be judged.
