How to answer the bible errors

I agree if you look at something with the preconceived notion you will be narrowed to that result.

But you can ask me I would love to research =D

Some of those errors are not actually errors but verses taken out of context and made to look like errors. When the meaning of the text is changed it becomes false testimony, which is what much of that list is.
Take for instance God declaring we would die, then Adam living 900 years. The fact he lived so long doesn't negate the fact he did die.
Adam will die the second death as we all will who are not saved. The death of the spirit.

@dab11999 are you so sure adam will die in hell? the bible say's not to say in your heart whethor or not someone will enter heaven or go to hell, so be more careful in the future

joyusdays said:

So are you saying we can say God's word has flaws?

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Do me a favor will you? Read Isaiah 55:8-11. Then understand that man has translated the Scriptures and copied them many, many times. Copyists make errors but consider how many discrepancies you posted versus 2000+ years that the Scriptures have been in existence and tell me that God is not in those Scriptures.

Your quote: "we must trust Him even if we don't understand it." Perhaps a little practice of that?

joyusdays said:

yes...so are you saying that a new believer needs to be careful which bible they pick up?

and second, since the new american standard has only been available since 1971, what about those that didn't have that version before then...did all have bibles with mistakes?

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You have to remember that the bible was not written in English before the new American standered there were others that correctly translated, And yess Christians should be very careful as to what bible to buy and to whos commentary to read.

ashout said:

@dab11999 are you so sure adam will die in hell? the bible say's not to say in your heart whethor or not someone will enter heaven or go to hell, so be more careful in the future

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OK, I will if you will read more carefully and try and understand the words. We are all condemned if we are not saved. The verse you are referring to is about judging others.
What exactly are you trying to defend? Satan? Think carefully about what you are reading.

joyusdays said:

yes...so are you saying that a new believer needs to be careful which bible they pick up?

and second, since the new american standard has only been available since 1971, what about those that didn't have that version before then...did all have bibles with mistakes?

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Even the KJV which I really enjoy reading (it flows well to me) has errors.

Cut and paste from here...spurious Text Frames

SPURIOUS PASSAGES OF THE NEW TESTAMENT



On Authority of Professor C. Tischendorf’s notes on the readings of the two oldest Greek manuscripts: The Sinaitic and the Vatican #1209

The following words, found in our Common Version (King James Version) are not found in the Oldest Manuscripts, and are evidently no part of the Divine Word. Let each Berean go through his Bible, pencil in hand, and mark out these words: then read the passages affected and note the improvement. This list comprises all the important interpolations discovered to date.

The compiler has condensed this list. From the compiler’s point of view there exist very good reasons why everything in this list should be crossed out of our Bibles. Thus, when the interpolations are eliminated from Mark 14:30, 68, 72, the account agrees exactly with that given by the other evangelists. Or, take Luke 23:34: history shows that the Jews have been obliged as a race to expiate their crime. Or take John 4:9: it does not agree at all with Luke 9:52, which shows that even the Lord himself did have such dealings. Omitted from this list are the dozens of interpolations made by early copyists with the aim of making all the narratives uniform, and the hundreds of non-essential words, the addition of which does not affect the purity of the message. (Some of these passages have already been omitted by more modern translations such as the New American Standard or the New International Version, since they were translated from the more reliable, ancient manuscripts.)

Matt. 5:23

without a cause

Matt. 6:13

For thine is the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Matt. 6:25

or what ye shall drink*

Matt. 16:2

When it is evening, ye say, it will be fair weather: for the sky is red.

Matt. 16:3

This entire verse

Matt.17:21

and fasting

Matt.18:12

into the mountains

Matt. 2O:7

and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive

Matt. 22:13

and take him away

Matt. 23:35

son of Barachias*

Matt. 24:10

and shall hate one another*

Matt. 24:31

sound of a*

Matt. 24:41

women shall be

Matt. 25:6

cometh

Matt. 27:52

and the graves were opened*

Matt. 27: 53

and went*

Matt. 28:19

therefore

Mark 4:37

so that it was now full*

Mark 6:51

beyond measure and wondered

Mark 7:8

For as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things as ye do

Mark 7:14

unto me every one of you

Mark 9:24

with tears

Mark 9:29

and fasting

Mark 9:44

This entire verse

Mark 9:45

into the fire that shall never be quenched

Mark 9:46

This entire verse

Mark 9:47

fire

Mark 9:49

and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt

Mark 10:24

for them that trust in riches

Mark 10:30

houses and brethren and sisters and mothers and children and lands with persecutions*

Mark 14:30

twice*

Mark 14:68

and the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] crew

Mark 14:72

the second time*

twice*

Mark 16:9-20

All these verses

Luke 2: 40

in spirit

Luke 8:45

and sayest thou, Who touched me?

Luke 16:16

and every man presseth into it

Luke 17:12

which stood afar off*

Luke17:35

women

Luke 18:11

with himself*

Luke 22:43

This entire verse

Luke 22:44

This entire verse

Luke 22:68

me, nor let me go

Luke 23:5

teaching*

Luke 23:34

Then said Jesus, Father forgive them; for they know not what they do

Luke 24:42

and of an honeycomb

John 1:25

asked him, and*

John 3:13

which is in heaven

John 4:9

for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans

John 5:3

waiting for the moving of the water

John 5:4

This entire verse

John 5:25

and now is*

John 8:1-11

all these verses

John 8:59

going through the midst of them and so passed by

John 16:16

because I go to the Father

John 19:23

and also his coat*

John 21:25

This entire verse

Acts 6:3

Holy Ghost and (should read "spirit of")

Acts 6:8

faith (should read "grace")

Acts 8:37

This entire verse

Acts 9:31

churches (should read "church")

were (should read "was")

Acts 15:32

and confirmed them*

Acts 18:5

pressed in the spirit (should read "earnestly occupied with the Word")

Acts 18:21

I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but

Rom. 3:22

and upon all

Rom. 6:12

it in

Rom. 7:6

that being dead (should read "being dead to that")

Rom. 8:26

for us

Rom. 11:6

But if it be of works, then it is no more grace; otherwise work is no more work

Rom. 14:6

and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it

1 Cor. 2:1

testimony (should read "mystery")

1 Cor. 6:20

and in your spirit, which are God's

1 Cor. 7:5

fasting and

1 Cor. 10:28

for the earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof

1 Cor. 15:24

cometh

2 Cor. 4:14

by (should read "with")

Gal. 3:1

that ye should not obey the truth

Gal. 3:17

in Christ

Gal. 5:19

adultery

Gal. 5:21

murders

Eph. 5:9

Spirit (should read "light")

Eph. 5:30

of his flesh, and of his bones

2 Thess. 2:9

Even him

1 Tim. 3:16

God (should read "who")*

1 Tim. 4:12

in spirit*

1 Tim. 6:5

from such withdraw thyself*

2 Tim. 3:3

without natural affection*

Heb. 12:18

mount that might be touched and that burned with fire (should read "fire that might be touched and burned")*

Heb. 12:20

or thrust through with a dart*

James 5:16

Confess your faults (should read "Therefore confess your sins")*

1 Pet. 2:5

spiritual (before the word "sacrifices")

1 Pet. 3:8

courteous (should read "humble")

2 Pet. 1:1

God and our (should read "our Lord and")*

1 John 3:16

of God

1 John 5:7

in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one

1 John 5:8

And there are three that bear witness in earth

1 John 5:13

and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God

Rev. 1:17

unto me, Fear not*

Rev. 2:22

their (should read "her")*

Rev. 5:3

neither under the earth*

Rev. 5:9

us (omitted by the Alexandrian Ms., one of the three oldest Mss. known)

Rev. 5:10

us (should read "them")

we (should read "they")

Rev. 5:13

and under the earth*

Rev. 6:2

to conquer (should read "he conquered")*

Rev. 9:4

neither any green thing*

Rev. 9:13

the four horns of*

Rev. 10:6

and the sea, and the things which are therein*

Rev. 11:17

and art to come*

Rev. 12:12

inhabiters of* of (before the words "the sea")

Rev. 14:5

before the throne of God*

Rev. 14:12

here are they*

Rev. 16:5

and shalt be (should read "the holy")*

Rev. 16:7

another out of*

Rev. 16:11

and their sores*

of their deeds*

Rev. 16:17

from the throne*

Rev. 18:22

of whatsoever craft he be*

and the stone of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee*

Rev. 20:5

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished*

Rev. 21:24

of them which are saved*

and honor*

Rev. 21:26

and honor*

Rev. 22:3

more*

* Omitted by the Sinaitic Manuscript. These not thus marked are omitted by both the Sinaitic and Vatican Manuscripts. The Epistles to Timothy, the latter part of Hebrews, and all of Revelation, are missing from the Vatican Manuscript, No. 1209, having been lost during the fifteen or more centuries since it was written. The Sinaitic Manuscript is perfect and complete and is the oldest known copy of the Scriptures, having been written (it is believed) in the year 331 A.D.

joyusdays said:

i read it and I believe it. I believe the bible is full of God everywhere. i just said it had errors and if it's not clear to all then who is the "right' one. The verse you gave me could have several meanings...and my point is that if so many spirit filled christians see it a different way, who is the "right' one.

For example Isaiah 55:11 says "word" and I think it means that whatever god speaks will happen: here is the cross ref "Isaiah 59:21 "As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit which is upon you, and My words which I have put in your mouth shall not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your offspring, nor from the mouth of your offspring's offspring," says the LORD, "from now and forever."

So what was your point with the scripture you gave me?

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The right person to have the correct interpretation is between you and the Holy Spirit. I think that's part of the way the Body of Christ works. You may be used as a toe and I as a finger. My understanding of the scriptures through the Holy Spirit and the Bible help me be a better finger and yours help you be a better toe. If you're going to seek help (discipleship or fellowship) then show your Spiritual maturity by exhibiting a Christ like life. If you don't know what that looks like try starting with 1 Corinthians 13:4 and fill your name into where Love goes.

God Bless and good searching
Dave

Short answer, yes. Each of us have our Spiritual gifts or situations and skills to be whatever our purpose is for God's work, whether that be a Worship leader, choir director, teacher, pastor, committee member, elder, usher, janitor, tither, or simply someone who prays for others and the Church. All are necessary, all have use in God's plan, not all of them get along or have to agree 100% on doctrine or be at the same Spiritual maturity or understanding. The only thing that should be the same for every church is that the head and cornerstone of it is Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:20), IMO.

The Spirit gives us the gifts we need when it calls us. If a toes wants to become a finger it probably won't be a good one. If the Holy Spirit empowers and convicts a toe to become a finger God provides an opportunity and a fruitful way. The same would apply for pastor-ship.

I'll take a few of these and show you that it's a matter of terminology that has been adopted later...



Jonah 1:17 says, "...Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights" Matt 12:40 says "...Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly..." whales and fish are not related

Back in the day of Jonah, a general name was given to all that swam in the ocean - that was a fish. Look in Genesis 1:20-22. Moses wrote Genesis. That's been a while, and the classification for each animal being a mammal or not wasn't invented until much later. Whale = starfish = dolphin = shark = octopus = crappie = fish, although not all looked the same, the definition was the same: Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Further, And God created whales, and every living creature that moveth which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Matt 13:31-32: " "the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree." There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don't grow into trees.

The terminology "tree" was the only word with the definition at the time of a mustard plant that grew into a structure with branches. Also, the Jewish culture may have not had orchid seeds. Jesus used things that were familiar with men at the time. Why bring up the orchid seed when the men never heard of it? It may have been discovered somewhere on the opposite side of the planet. That would have really screwed the disciples up! lol

Matt 4:8: " Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them." Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth.

At the time, the term "world" was defined by the Jewish world.. that's the definition I get out of the Greek word in this usage.

Be careful what you dwell on. The weightier matters are love, mercy, and faith.

joyusdays said:

Do you think that the Holy Spirit empowers preachers today as He did when He appointed them to write the bible?

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God used the early church and their writings inspired by the Holy Spirit to start the church. Jesus and Paul said some things that are important to study:

Acts 9:15 [Jesus said] ...Go thy way: for he [Paul] is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

1 Cor 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

1 Cor 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

In the verse in Acts, Jesus designates Paul to preach to Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. This was to be the early church. Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, was able to write a lot of the books of the Bible.

The verses in Corinthians are some things Paul wrote, even concerning this issue. Paul watered. Not Joe or Mike, but Paul was inspired to write. And what he wrote ended up, by God's will, in the Bible.

Paul doesn't say you can't write or preach today under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. "and another buildeth thereon" means the church keeps writing under inspiration the things to edify the church. So yes, God uses people today under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to preach, write, edify, and love each other, bearing each others' burdens.

But you can't add to the Bible. It's already been written by prophets, kings, apostles.. this foundation of the church has been laid by Paul, according to the Corinthians verses above. He agrees that this means nothing, though, only Christ and His redemptive work is what is important:

1 Cor 3:7
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.