How Smart is the Devil ?

[Chaleb]

How smart is the Devil?

He was not smart enough to realize that he could not sit on a Throne of Rulership above God, in Heaven, so, he was sent down here.


He is however, so very clever that he was able to deceive Eve into broken fellowship from God.

He is also so clever that he can masquerade as an "angel of light" and fool .."bewitch"...born again Christians right out of their faith in Christ., and have them "fallen from Grace"., believing that they can lose their Salvation.

The Devil is so clever that he can lead an entire world into Christ Rejection, and keep them there, except for the few that find the Light.
(Jesus is the Light of the World).

He has read the Bible and the Greek Texts, and the Latin.... and knows the word of God so well that He has created many "new" bibles that are not really bibles at all.

He caused the murder of all the Apostles. (The original 11) (not John), just by manipulating other people to kill them.
He Killed Paul the same way.

He has created many Denominations that appear to be Christianity and are not at all.
You'll """"know them by their "water and works" theology."""""

And let me remind you, Reader, that there are no Denominations in Heaven.. Why? Because Denominations are man-made and the Body of Christ is GOD Made.

If you are called into the Ministry, He'll tempt you to teach child psychology to baby believers, or the prosperity gospel as the ONLY THING you teach, and he'll bring your weakness to you in person to try to lead you into a situation where you get caught, which then leads the unbelievers to think that "christianity is junk".. "Its for the weak"...."its man made"..... "Its fake"......."they're just like us""""....

The Devil is so clever, that he controls the world wide MEDIA.

The Devil is so clever, that He has the World watching "Zelensky and the Ukraine" while Putin, Iran, and China are filling up Syria with Bombs that they are going to try to use against Israel, very soon.

And Reader......If you try to overcome The Devil's methods in your own willpower, he'll teach you a hard hard lesson regarding why all your willpower to try to overcome Him is not God's power at all.

 

[Cade_One]

Not very. He's going up against the God of the Universe, but he must like a challenge and he gets a lot of mini-wins, which has to be a boost to his ego.

 

[d taylor]

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He (satan) has also deceived the whole world about God's creation. Having people (even believers) believe sciences deceptive satanic inspired creation, over God's creation as described in The Bible.

Even to the point that 99% of christianity reads sciences creation into, The Bible to basically reinterpret God's given creation accounts and descriptions in The Bible.

Basically now in this age, is the age of satan and lies.

 

[Chaleb]

Not very. He's going up against the God of the Universe, but he must like a challenge and he gets a lot of mini-wins, which has to be a boost to his ego.

Here is a FYI.

something else that proves just how cunning he is...

A good majority of Believers, .......don't believe that Hell or the Devil exists.

Some of them are on this fourm, and every other forum.
Some of them write commentaries, started denominations, and helped treanslate a "new bible".

See that?

The devil is on the job blinding the minds.


Paul teaches....

2 Corinthians 4:4

New Living Translation
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

English Standard Version
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Berean Standard Bible
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Berean Literal Bible
in whom the god of this age has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, so as for not to beam forth the illumination of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

King James Bible
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

New King James Version
whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

New American Standard Bible
in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they will not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

 

[BobRyan]

How smart is the Devil?

He was not smart enough to realize that he could not sit on a Throne of Rulership above God, in Heaven, so, he was sent down here.


He is however, so very clever that he was able to deceive Eve into broken fellowship from God.

Smart enough to fool 1/3 of the sinless angels
Smart enough for God to say this about him -

Ezek 28;

“You had the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
Every precious stone was your covering:
The ruby, the topaz and the diamond;
The beryl, the onyx and the jasper;
The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald;
And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets,
Was in you.
On the day that you were created
They were prepared.
14 You were the anointed cherub who covers,
And I placed you there.
You were on the holy mountain of God;
You walked in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 You were blameless in your ways
From the day you were created
Until unrighteousness was found in you.
16 By the abundance of your trade
You were internally filled with violence,
And you sinned;
Therefore I have cast you as profane
From the mountain of God.
And I have destroyed you, you covering cherub,
From the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Your heart was haughty because of your beauty;
You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor.
I threw you to the ground;
I put you before kings,
That they may see you.
18 By the multitude of your wrongdoings,
In the unrighteousness of your trade
You profaned your sanctuaries.
Therefore I have brought fire from the midst of you;
It has consumed you,
And I have turned you to ashes on the earth
In the eyes of all who see you.
19 All who know you among the peoples
Are appalled at you;
You have become terrified
And you will cease to be forever.”’”

 

[timothyu]

He doesn't have to be smart to deal with humans. We are willing sheep out for self.

Jesus turned down ruling the world when offered by the Tempter because His mission was the Gospel of the Kingdom, knowing full well it trumped anything this world could offer. His rule would be the Kingdom, not this asylum. Man of course built a religion around Jesus. But what would the Adversary do?

Simple. Take the focus off of the Kingdom and not Jesus but His message, and put it back on the world. Why? Because there is no place for the Adversary or it's ways in the Kingdom. It would be out of a job. Not only was the Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus taught replaced by another, but the idea that God would no longer allow man to rule over fellow man was subdued. Gentiles were an easy mark because they were passionate about ruling each other and building their systems upon the same foundations that previous systems were built. It was a simple matter to remove the Kingdom concept and return the religion to the world that man has made in our and the adversary's image. It was even caesar controlled.

The ultimate broadside to the Gospel of the Kingdom returning that which was to honour the Kingdom and it's ways that ran contrary to the ways of man, returning it to work in power along side and eventually over the secular world of man following the same secular systems of the past rather than those of the Kingdom. What better way than to have the Adversary control the narrative of a worldly rather than Kingdom religion. Jesus was a light but darkness soon fell again and the blind soon returned to leading the blind using God and the threat of the Adversary losing control of man was diminished, for at least now while this still plats out. All of the institutions of this world operate on the foundation of Adversarial ways built around self interest rather than truth as was intended. That original church built upon the foundations of truth as a result has always remained small and home for the discerning. Concern for self reigns over concern for others fueling strife among even denominations for exclusivity which does not exist. Yet people would rather defend their denomination over defending the Kingdom.

People ask the wrong question. It was for a brief moment WWJD, but quickly reverted back to what would the Adversary do. He's been doing just fine. As long as man defers from the ways of the Kingdom and tries to solve the world's woes by using the same thinking that created them, we will go nowhere. The scripture says that Jesus will return, not when Christianity is spread throughout the world but rather the good news of the Kingdom that shows us how backwards we are. Could be some time yet at the rate we are going.

Matthew 24: 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

 

[disciple Clint]

How smart is the Devil?

He was not smart enough to realize that he could not sit on a Throne of Rulership above God, in Heaven, so, he was sent down here.


He is however, so very clever that he was able to deceive Eve into broken fellowship from God.

He is also so clever that he can masquerade as an "angel of light" and fool .."bewitch"...born again Christians right out of their faith in Christ., and have them "fallen from Grace"., believing that they can lose their Salvation.

The Devil is so clever that he can lead an entire world into Christ Rejection, and keep them there, except for the few that find the Light.
(Jesus is the Light of the World).

He has read the Bible and the Greek Texts, and the Latin.... and knows the word of God so well that He has created many "new" bibles that are not really bibles at all.

He caused the murder of all the Apostles. (The original 11) (not John), just by manipulating other people to kill them.
He Killed Paul the same way.

He has created many Denominations that appear to be Christianity and are not at all.
You'll """"know them by their "water and works" theology."""""

And let me remind you, Reader, that there are no Denominations in Heaven.. Why? Because Denominations are man-made and the Body of Christ is GOD Made.

If you are called into the Ministry, He'll tempt you to teach child psychology to baby believers, or the prosperity gospel as the ONLY THING you teach, and he'll bring your weakness to you in person to try to lead you into a situation where you get caught, which then leads the unbelievers to think that "christianity is junk".. "Its for the weak"...."its man made"..... "Its fake"......."they're just like us""""....

The Devil is so clever, that he controls the world wide MEDIA.

The Devil is so clever, that He has the World watching "Zelensky and the Ukraine" while Putin, Iran, and China are filling up Syria with Bombs that they are going to try to use against Israel, very soon.

And Reader......If you try to overcome The Devil's methods in your own willpower, he'll teach you a hard hard lesson regarding why all your willpower to try to overcome Him is not God's power at all.

Oh yes he is smart but he is powerless against God. He can do nothing that God does not allow him to do.

 

[IoanC]

He has an angelic nature, but one that is entirely sinful. He does not have The Grace of The Holy Spirit and cannot repent. He is just gradually susceptible to eternal death.

 

[SamInNi]

We should be aware of his cunning schemes against us (2nd Corinthians 2:11).

 

[Chaleb]

Oh yes he is smart but he is powerless against God. He can do nothing that God does not allow him to do.

On the contrary, Satan is the god of this world, and he's in charge of temptation, and evil.

What God does, is allow you to make choices regaring being in this world that is run by the devil.

Your choices allow , and your choice refrain.

 

[Chaleb]

He has an angelic nature, but one that is entirely sinful. He does not have The Grace of The Holy Spirit and cannot repent. He is just gradually susceptible to eternal death.

The nature of the Devil, is sin.
This is the fallen nature in all unbelievers, which is why sinning is natural for them to commit.

 

[Chaleb]

We should be aware of his cunning schemes against us (2nd Corinthians 2:11).

Paul teaches that each day we need to put on the armor of God to "stand" against the Devil.

The most important part of the Armor is the HELMET... And this is Faith.......and even moreso, its correct faith vs broken faith.

What is broken faith?

Well, its like this...
A BELIEVING person goes to God, to the Cross, on the day they are saved, and they are so thankful that GOD saved them.
They know that day, they are saved and who did it, and they know they are going to HEAVEN, because of God and Christ and The Cross.

2 Yrs later, they are on a fourm teaching......'Here is how you lose salvaiion".....>"here are the commandments you need to keep, and the works you need to do, to STAY SAVED"..

Yet, the day they were saved, they KNEW why they were going to heaven, as they had the truth then.., and now....= over time they've been conned out of it by "theology" deceivers.

2 Corinthians 11:14

So...now, they dont have the Truth anymore and are become a self saver.....trying to perform to earn what God gave them, already.

See that?
That is "fallen from Grace"......= Legalism

 

[IoanC]

The nature of the Devil, is sin.
This is the fallen nature in all unbelievers, which is why sinning is natural for them to commit.

The Devil/Lucifer is an angel/bodiless spirit whose natural state is that of an angel. It is not natural for him to sin, but God's own good for him is natural. Yet, his sin and lack of repentance is so total and profound that he cannot be saved. He remains eternally subject to God 's judgement and punishment.

 

[Chaleb]

The Devil/Lucifer is an angel/bodiless spirit whose natural state is that of an angel. It is not natural for him to sin, but God's own good for him is natural. Yet, his sin and lack of repentance is so total and profound that he cannot be saved, He remains eternally sunject to God 's judgement and punishment.

If you will read your NT< you'll discover that Jesus said this about Lucifer/Satan

"he was a murderer from the BEGINNING".... "the TRUTH is not In HIM"... ""He's the father of LIES">

So, does that sound like Lucifer/Satan, (the Anointed Cherub) has no sin nature?

And that nature of the devil, is the Adamic nature in a human.
This is why Jesus said....>"you are of YOUR FATHER, the DEVIL"., = sinner, with a sin nature, just like the Devil's.

 

[IoanC]

If you will read your NT< you'll discover that Jesus said this about Lucifer/Satan

"he was a murderer from the BEGINNING".... "the TRUTH is not In HIM"... ""He's the father of LIES">

So, does that sound like Lucifer/Satan, (the Anointed Cherub) has no sin nature?

And that nature of the devil, is the Adamic nature in a human.
This is why Jesus said....>"you are of YOUR FATHER, the DEVIL"., = sinner, with a sin nature, just like the Devil's.

God created Lucifer as an angel for His own glory. Yet, he constantly sins against God. There is no opposite to God, such as a nature named 'sin' or 'devil'. Lucifer fools himself that there is no justice and that God does not punish
sin.

 

[Chaleb]

God created Lucifer as an angel for His own glory. Yet, he constantly sins against God. There is no opposite to God, such a nature named 'sin' or 'devil'. Lucifer fools himself that there is no justice and that God does not punish
sin.

Lucifer is a Cherub.

You should study that to find out the difference between an Angel and a Cherub.

Let me show you...
The ARK of the Covenant......has two Cherubs on it. Whereas when Jesus rose from the Dead, there were 2 angles in the Tomb waiting for Mary..


Satan is aware of his end.
This is why in the end times, these final day we are in before the Trib starts, Satan is causing more evil, worldwide, in the last 4o yrs, then has been seen since WWII.

Time is speeding up, evil in the world is deepening, and God is about to send the Lion down here to deal with unbelievers and Jews.

 

[IoanC]

Lucifer is a Cherub.

You should study that to find out the difference between an Angel and a Cherub.

Let me show you...
The ARK of the Covenant......has two Cherubs on it. Whereas when Jesus rose from the Dead, there were 2 angles in the Tomb waiting for Mary..


Satan is aware of his end.
This is why in the end times, these final day we are in before the Trib starts, Satan is causing more evil, worldwide, in the last 4o yrs, then has been seen since WWII.

Time is speeding up, evil in the world is deepening, and God is about to send the Lion down here to deal with unbelievers and Jews.

A cherub is an angelic rank that evokes God's Wisdom through Grace. A cherub is otherwise an angel created by God. 'Cherub' is not a nature that is different than 'angel', but an angel like all others.

 

[Chaleb]

A cherub is an angelic rank

I wonder who wrote 'angelic rank"

Wikipedia?

So, the Heavenly Host is all of this........ and the born again get to see it all LIVE, when we are Raptured or Die.

Its is going to be amazing to SEE IT.

 

[disciple Clint]

On the contrary, Satan is the god of this world, and he's in charge of temptation, and evil.

What God does, is allow you to make choices regaring being in this world that is run by the devil.

Your choices allow , and your choice refrain.

Read Job, satan can do nothing that God does not allow him to do. God is in charge of everything, He is totally sovereign

 

[timothyu]

Read Job, satan can do nothing that God does not allow him to do. God is in charge of everything, He is totally sovereign

This may be so but the Hebrew people believed that God made the Tempter for the sole purpose to test them. Jesus didn't go into the desert to meet up with an Amw*y salesman. Funny how Christianity has lumped an advrersary, a cherub, a tempter and who knows what else into one being.