How old is the world?

[Floodnut]

Did Noah have dinosaurs on his ark? And kangaroos?
What was there before the big bang?

Noah had the ancestors of present Kangaroos on the Ark, and Noah also had dinosaurs on the Ark, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE. Since I don't believe in the Big Bang, I can't answer that question.

 

[Battie]

Noah had the ancestors of present Kangaroos on the Ark, and Noah also had dinosaurs on the Ark, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE. Since I don't believe in the Big Bang, I can't answer that question.

It doesn't say that there were dinosaurs on the Ark. If I have missed it, quote me the chapter and verse where it says dinosaurs (or kangaroos, for that matter) were on the Ark.

 

[Floodnut]

Science is not democratic. In any case, more scientists oppose your view than support it, so I guess your ad populum type of argument is a bit silly, isn't it?

Truth is not democratic. Jesus said, "I AM THE Truth," and God's word is Truth.

 

[RoboMastodon]

It is good to read "peer-reviewed" scientific papers, but there is a bit of a problem if all the peers believe the same thing and pat each other on the back. If you are coming to a Christian Forum seeking Christian Wisdom you should be aware that many of the people who post here are NOT Christians, and they will be the first to make that claim of themselves.

While peer review is of value, if you seek Christian Wisdom, then try to find people who are Christians, who believe that the Bible is true, who listen to the Spirit of Truth. READ Bible Believing Material. There are many godly men and women here who are more than willing to help.

In the field of science, you get accolades for proving other people wrong and a Nobel Prize for demonstrating that a well-established theory is wrong.

 

[Floodnut]

Oh, no. They DID notice it. The Chinese calendar says this is the year 4390.

This was in response to a previous assertion that ancient civilizations did not recall the Flood.

In nearly every culture of the world there is a flood legend, with many of the same elements as found in the biblical account such as an ARK, animals saved by two, eight human survivors, four couples, a father and his three sons and their wives, three stories to the Ark, A year on the Ark, Forty days of Rain, Sending out animals, even specific birds, often doves to check the conditon of the ground.

Cultures with Flood Legend include Scandinavians, Polynesians, Native American Tribes by the dozens, Other Pre-columbian Western Hemisphere cultures, as well as Orientals, Africans, and European. These flood legends pre-date the influence of Christian Missionaries.

The only answer from Anthropologists that I have ever heard is "It can't refer to the Flood of the Bible."

 

[RoboMastodon]

This was in response to a previous assertion that ancient civilizations did not recall the Flood.

In nearly every culture of the world there is a flood legend, with many of the same elements as found in the biblical account such as an ARK, animals saved by two, eight human survivors, four couples, a father and his three sons and their wives, three stories to the Ark, A year on the Ark, Forty days of Rain, Sending out animals, even specific birds, often doves to check the conditon of the ground.

Cultures with Flood Legend include Scandinavians, Polynesians, Native American Tribes by the dozens, Other Pre-columbian Western Hemisphere cultures, as well as Orientals, Africans, and European. These flood legends pre-date the influence of Christian Missionaries.

The only answer from Anthropologists that I have ever heard is "It can't refer to the Flood of the Bible."

Nearly every culture started out on a fertile flood plain, so it's not surprising that many of them (not all) have flood legends.

 

[Battie]

Curiously, as far as I know the Egyptians do not have a flood myth. My ancient literature professor mentioned that this was because they depended on flooding from the Nile for their farming and thus did not fear water disasters the way other culture did.

 

[Battie]

Evolutionism is the single most foolish, idiotic, arrogant, baseless and presumptive stance on Anything existing in our modern world. There is no proof whatever for it, no scientific data even hints at it. What this is coming down to is the unbelievers' inability to bow down and Worship the Creator.

But there are many Christians who acknowledge that evolution happened and happens, see this as God's ongoing work in creation, and worship Him.

 

[RoboMastodon]

Evolutionism is the single most foolish, idiotic, arrogant, baseless and presumptive stance on Anything existing in our modern world. There is no proof whatever for it, no scientific data even hints at it. What this is coming down to is the unbelievers' inability to bow down and Worship the Creator.

Oh, I guess all those thousands of Christian scientists must have been fooling themselves when they were writing thousands upon thousands of pages of peer-reviewed material analyzing data and drawing conclusions for submission to scientific journals. I guess the same applies to all of the Christian geologists, cosmologists, paleontologists, anthropologists, archeologists, historians and linguists who in their compilation of data and study of their respective field, have indirectly discovered that YEC is wrong.

 

[corvus_corax]

Evolutionism is the single most foolish, idiotic, arrogant, baseless and presumptive stance on Anything existing in our modern world. There is no proof whatever for it, no scientific data even hints at it.

I realize that you were just doing this in mockery of the post you quoted, but I have to ask...Have you actually studied evolutionary theory?
You do realize that what you are saying is patently false? It's a blatant lie.

What this is coming down to is the unbelievers' inability to bow down and Worship the Creator.

Once more, with feeling....EVOLUTION =/= ATHEISM
And Im sure the many christians who believe in theistic evolution will be more than happy to demonstrate that simple fact for you

 

[Floodnut]

Never mind for a second the fact that what you said is blatantly false.

Why, then, are professional creationists such pervasive liars?

You may assert that I am wrong, or incorrect. But you are wrong to assert that I am lying because you believe that my statement is "blatantly false." When you call creationists liars you are being judgmental. I think it may be that you are the one who is a liar, but then without the truth of God's Word to set moral absolutes you have no reason to see lying as wrong.

 

[Praxiteles]

You may assert that I am wrong, or incorrect. But you are wrong to assert that I am lying because you believe that my statement is "blatantly false." When you call creationists liars you are being judgmental. I think it may be that you are the one who is a liar, but then without the truth of God's Word to set moral absolutes you have no reason to see lying as wrong.

Way to contradict yourself inside one post, Floody.

 

[Floodnut]

The bible clearly teaches no such thing. Even suggesting it is R-O-T-F-L :\

Yes the Bible does Clearly teach the co-existence of dinosaurs and humans. Both were created on the sixth day, so they co-existed. You probably also laugh at the idea of Jonah being swallowed by a fish, and Jesus rising from the dead after three days.

 

[Nathan Poe]

You may assert that I am wrong, or incorrect. But you are wrong to assert that I am lying because you believe that my statement is "blatantly false." When you call creationists liars you are being judgmental. I think it may be that you are the one who is a liar, but then without the truth of God's Word to set moral absolutes you have no reason to see lying as wrong.

So since you have God on your side, what is your stance on lying?

Mind you, I don't think MB was accusing you of lying, although you were spreading lies. You may have simply been unaware that what you were saying was blatantly false.

 

[Lucretius]

Yes the Bible does Clearly teach the co-existence of dinosaurs and humans. Both were created on the sixth day, so they co-existed. You probably also laugh at the idea of Jonah being swallowed by a fish, and Jesus rising from the dead after three days.

Yeah, pretty much so.

 

[Floodnut]

Of all the various YEC lunacy I've experienced, I have to say that the human/dino co-existence (ignoring birds, of course) thing has to be one of the loopiest.

More loopy than imagining that humans evolved from microbial goo? WOW!

 

[mikeynov]

More loopy than imagining that humans evolved from microbial goo? WOW!

As opposed to Yahweh making us out of the dirt? :\

 

[Floodnut]

Out of morbid curiosity, I'll ask for substantiation of these claims

The claims to which he/she refers are that writers of the Bible had seen dinos and frequently describe them. He asks for substantiation. As the Guy said in Lake Palcid, "They hide information like that in books." and the frequent mention of giant lizards is throughout the Bible. BUt you really don't care about the Bible do you?

 

[f U z ! o N]

Yes the Bible does Clearly teach the co-existence of dinosaurs and humans. Both were created on the sixth day, so they co-existed. You probably also laugh at the idea of Jonah being swallowed by a fish, and Jesus rising from the dead after three days.

then what happend to the dinosaurs?

 

[mikeynov]

Yes the Bible does Clearly teach the co-existence of dinosaurs and humans. Both were created on the sixth day, so they co-existed. You probably also laugh at the idea of Jonah being swallowed by a fish, and Jesus rising from the dead after three days.

Interesting how biblical scholars seemed to have missed those references.

For example, Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians represent the two oldest denominations of Christianity on the planet, and also represent (by far) the largest base of scholars that have existed on the subject. If you suggested this to any contemporary scholars, what do they think they'd tell you?

But you'll let professional creationists who write books and run websites to dictate both your science and your theology. Intriguing.