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Freedom's Chessman said:
If the Great Flood occurred only 5000 to 10000 years ago how did we end up with so much racial diversity? I was wondering if someone could explain that to me?
Actually it's closer to 4000 years ago

And the first answer is- Goddidit
The second answer is- Satancausedit
The third answer is- TheFalldidit
And the fourth answer is (my personal favorite)- Microevolutiondiditbutmacroevolutioncanneverhappendbecauseallcreaturesarecreatedaccordingtotheirkind

In other words, the entirety of the answers above is just as intelligible as the statement "Bleargh!"
 
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Freedom's Chessman said:
If the Great Flood occurred only 5000 to 10000 years ago how did we end up with so much racial diversity? I was wondering if someone could explain that to me?
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I heard that an expreiment was preformed by putting certain chemicals into a tank of water and running an electrical current through it. This appearantly created small bits of DNA. There is no reason that this couldn't have happened somewhere in our vast universe; why not here?
 
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A Freethinker said:
I heard that an expreiment was preformed by putting certain chemicals into a tank of water and running an electrical current through it. This appearantly created small bits of DNA. There is no reason that this couldn't have happened somewhere in our vast universe; why not here?

Except for the fact that they didn't REALLY create life. 98% of the mixture was poisonous. Also, they only created 2 amino acids out of 20. Also, they sent the lightning spark one time, which is unrealistic in nature. The Miller experiment is a failure, not a success.
 
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GodsSamus said:
Except for the fact that they didn't REALLY create life. 98% of the mixture was poisonous. Also, they only created 2 amino acids out of 20. Also, they sent the lightning spark one time, which is unrealistic in nature. The Miller experiment is a failure, not a success.

I'm going to have to guess and say you know nothing about the Miller experiment. The entire experiment was to see if organic molecules could be created from inorganic stuff. They were surprised when they did get organic molecules. Saying that the experiment failed because it didn't create life is like saying Maxwell failed because he couldn't unify electromagnetism with gravity.

Also, did you ever retract your statement about the moon receeding? I know that we showed your source incorrectly modelled it, but you never were able to admit that you were wrong.
 
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A Freethinker said:
I heard that an expreiment was preformed by putting certain chemicals into a tank of water and running an electrical current through it. This appearantly created small bits of DNA. There is no reason that this couldn't have happened somewhere in our vast universe; why not here?

You can read about the Miller-Urey Experiment here. It was successfull in testing the hypothesis that under certain conditions inorganic molecules would turn into organic molecues.

http://www.ncseweb.org/icons/icon1millerurey.html

It also discusses additional experiments under other conditions that have resulted it the same successful results and exposes how creationists ^^^ try to claim that the experiment was trying to create life (which it wasn't) and how creationists push forward other false claims about the experiment itself and the chemistry involved.

You might alse be interested in this article which discusses the discovery of organic molecules in space and the hypothesis of how they may have formed.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4552
 
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notto said:
You can read about the Miller-Urey Experiment here. It was successfull in testing the hypothesis that under certain conditions inorganic molecules would turn into organic molecues.

http://www.ncseweb.org/icons/icon1millerurey.html

It also discusses additional experiments under other conditions that have resulted it the same successful results and exposes how creationists ^^^ try to claim that the experiment was trying to create life (which it wasn't) and how creationists push forward other false claims about the experiment itself and the chemistry involved.

You might alse be interested in this article which discusses the discovery of organic molecules in space and the hypothesis of how they may have formed.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4552


Thank you very much for the great links; I am very interested. Thanks for clarifying my post as you seem to be more knowlegable on this subject than myself.

What he said.
 
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GodsSamus said:
Except for the fact that they didn't REALLY create life. 98% of the mixture was poisonous. Also, they only created 2 amino acids out of 20. Also, they sent the lightning spark one time, which is unrealistic in nature. The Miller experiment is a failure, not a success.

It wasn't about creating life, it was about creating organic molecules. Stop posting gibberish. Please support some of these wild claims.

Creating one amino acid is interesting enough.
 
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primate said:
[snickers] Hovind says they are dragons that were hunted to extinction. [/snickers]

There are numerous flood myths from many cultures, some which predate the biblical account.

Of course there are flood myths from many cultures that predate the biblical account since the Flood predates the account. The Biblical account was written by Moses, probably prior to the Exodus, in about 1450 BC. The flood occured about 1000 years prior to that writing, plenty of time for the corrupt mythologies to arise, before God moved on Moses to write the infallible accurate account that appears in Genesis.
 
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Nightson said:
So God created the world to look older than it truly is? Well that was stupid of him.

No, God is not stupid. He created a mature functioning world, and then told us exactly what he did. It is people who don't believe that who must imagine stupid alternatives to the Truth. I don't know that they are stupid. They are probably very intelligent with various earned degrees. So they are not stupid, just rebellious and willingly ignorant.
 
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A Freethinker said:
I heard that an expreiment was preformed by putting certain chemicals into a tank of water and running an electrical current through it. This appearantly created small bits of DNA. There is no reason that this couldn't have happened somewhere in our vast universe; why not here?

Wow, I love this kind of science that you read somewhere or heard. It doesn't happen in a laboratory in an experiment conducted by INTELLIGENT designers unless they carefully choose what ingredients to put in their soup. Pasteur must have been an idiot, apparently.
 
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A Freethinker said:
It wasn't about creating life, it was about creating organic molecules. Stop posting gibberish. Please support some of these wild claims.

Creating one amino acid is interesting enough.

Like the old Joke says, "Get your own dirt"
 
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Someone earlier asked the question:

If the Great Flood occurred only 5000 to 10000 years ago how did we end up with so much racial diversity? I was wondering if someone could explain that to me?

There is one race, the human race. AiG has a great book on the diversity withing the human race and how it arose out of the three pairs of ancestors after the flood.
 
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Floodnut said:
Wow, I love this kind of science that you read somewhere or heard. It doesn't happen in a laboratory in an experiment conducted by INTELLIGENT designers unless they carefully choose what ingredients to put in their soup. Pasteur must have been an idiot, apparently.

What a silly argument. I guess scientists should just sit around and stare at the bottles, right? Scientists carefully select what ingredients so they can tell what happened and why. It's called science.

What about the amino acids found from space?

The experiment and ones like it have proven what they set out to do. That there are environments (which mimic possible natural environments) that will produce amino acids and other organic compounds from inorganic ones.

Pasteur wasn't an idiot. It is those that suggest that the type of experiment discussed here has anything to do with what Pasteur set out to show that are idiots.
 
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GodsSamus said:
Except for the fact that they didn't REALLY create life.
strawman.jpg

Strawman. Dont deny it. That's what you've pulled.

"Creating life" has nothing to do with the Miller-Urey experiment

Once again, you prove that you have no idea what you are talking about (no really, you dont)You really should stop before you dig your hole too deep
Or do you want a bigger shovel?
 
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Floodnut said:
Wow, I love this kind of science that you read somewhere or heard. It doesn't happen in a laboratory in an experiment conducted by INTELLIGENT designers unless they carefully choose what ingredients to put in their soup. Pasteur must have been an idiot, apparently.

Diamonds are created from coal from extreme pressure and temperature. Scientists can replicate this in a lab. Is this intelligent design?

Chemistry works when electrons and stuff interact with each other. If I add an acid to a base to create a salt, is this evidence for intelligent design? Why is it that many Creationists have no knowledge of how science works, yet feel like they know more about how to perform an experiment then scientists?
 
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