How old is the world?

[f U z ! o N]

t-rex on the ark? im sure it ate everything in there

 

[Floodnut]

Are you suggesting that "infallible" man wrote history books while a "fallible God wrote the Bible?
God forbid!!!

All the men who wrote the Bible were fallible. But these holy men were borne along by the Holy Spirit so that what they wrote was infallible. But this is a question of Theology and should be discussed elsewhere in CF.

But it does relate to the age of the earth: God is infallible and he inspired, or breathed out the Scripture using fallible men, in such a manner that what the Bible declares about history is as infallible as what it declares about Heaven.

 

[rmwilliamsll]

he inspired, or breathed out

actually inspired means "breathed inward" not outward, but the word expired was already taken.


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[Floodnut]

ok i want to know a verse than where God says THE EARTH IS 6000 YEARS OLD!
then i will believe it.

OK, so now Mr. Fuzion is setting the rules for how God should reveal the truth. God expects you to do the Math. Add it up: close to 6000 years, quite explicit. If he did say "6000 Years" in one of the Psalms, or in Ecclesiaties, I doubt that you would believe that. Many in the world of Science say earth is about 4.57 billion years old and the universe is about 18 billion years old. That conflicts with the simple math of Scripture which says 6000 years.

You must choose. Either believe the "Science" and reject the simple sense of Scripture or

Believe the Scriptures and Jesus and Peter and reconsider your interpretation of the "scientific" evidence.

 

[f U z ! o N]

so scientists are evil? now wait a min. we have done the math! thats a dumb thing to say

 

[A Freethinker]

Dinosaurs along with humans were created on the sixth day of Creation (Genesis 1). They co-existed with humans in a mostly tropical and temperate pre-flood world. Yet they may have been concentrated in biological zones that were most suitable to their physical needs.

Then why have we (unlike MANY remains of extinct creatures that lived alongside humans) not found a SINGLE dinosaur fossil with a spear/arrowhead wound? Many other creatures have been found with such bone scars, thus proving their coexistance with man.

After the flood, those that had been taken on the Ark had a difficult time, along with a number of other animal species and have since gone extinct for the most part.

How exactly does something become "extinct for the most part"?

 

[Floodnut]

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Come on Creationists, you aren't doing God any favors by lying "for him". The evidence is there and you've seen it, what this has devolved into is Creationists straight up refusing to believe the obvious.

Please stop wasting time by posting the same irrelevant crock that I've seen over and over on this thread (read "The Bible"). It proves nothing. Please address the scientific evidence at hand; otherwise you are simply wasting time and dodging questions, proving to us and yourselves that you really do understand the evidence against your case.

OK, here it is again --Creationists are lying for God. So you won't mind if I say Evolutionists are a bunch of pagan godless liars? I wouldn't say that of course. They are just misguided and misinterpreting the evidence.

But We don't tell you to stop wasting time by posting the same Bible-denying irrelevant drivel. You say your stuff over and over and that is supposed to be noble. It proves nothing.

I could also say, Please address the Scriptural Evidence at hand; otherwise you are simply wasting precious time and dodging questions, proving that you really do understand that it is all about taking God's Word serioiusly.

And I will say, You do in fact really understand how the Word of God does in fact speak loudly against YOUR case.

 

[f U z ! o N]

so what about multiple dating systems giving similar numbers?

 

[Floodnut]

considering God says not to judge someone

Where does God say that? Did He or she appear to you? Are you sure that is what that means? And how do you know, assuming that it actually means that, how do you know that GOD SAID IT? Who ever said it was just a man and there are after all many approaches to God and of course some of those ways may include judging as a vital facet of the path to God < tongue in cheek symbol

 

[mikeynov]

so what about multiple dating systems giving similar numbers?

Or, more particularly, that all known radiometric standards can be calibrated using independent dating methods (particularly within the thousands of years range) as well as each other. Quite the coincidence that they're all not only wrong, but wrong in such a systematic way that they just happen to track with each other.

But I'm sure the usual answers apply here - people are dumb, the fall, fallibility, the fall, God's word is final, etc.

 

[Floodnut]

Stop the Press!!!

We have a live one here!​

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So get this - A creationist argues that any evidence that points to the Earth being older than 6000 years has to be wrong because the Earth is 6000 years old.


We are provided no evidence to say the Earth is 6000 years old other than the Bible.

I can't believe it. This is too funny to pass up.

To formulate a valid argument you develop a premise based on the evidence, NOT formulate a premise and pick and choose what evidence you want!!!

Why do Creationists think they are exempt to logic?



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If your point is weak just yell a little louder. God says the earth is 6000 years old. I believe God, not only for what he says about heaven in the future, but for what he says about Creation in the Past.

 

[mikeynov]

If your point is weak just yell a little louder. God says the earth is 6000 years old. I believe God, not only for what he says about heaven in the future, but for what he says about Creation in the Past.

No, God doesn't "say" that. That's your "plain" interpretation.

Given the enormity of bible scholars who understand the subject differently, I don't think you're in any position to be speaking directly on behalf of God. Even suggesting that you are is the ultimate arrogance.

 

[Floodnut]

Yes, there is something wrong with judging.

John 8:7 (New International Version)

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

Are you sure that is what it means? Maybe it is figurative? a metaphor? Maybe Jesus was wrong. Besides, are you accusing me of judging? Aren't you judging?

It is good to know that you actually can use the Bible when it suits you, but maybe I don't think it is accurate on such matters? < tongue in cheek symbol

This is not really directly a discussion of the age of the Earth, except that it serves to illustrate the import of taking the Scriptures seriously.

 

[Praxiteles]

God says the earth is 6000 years old. .

Your interpretation of a book says that the earth is 6000 years old.

Your interpretation of a book is God?

 

[f U z ! o N]

Where does God say that? Did He or she appear to you? Are you sure that is what that means? And how do you know, assuming that it actually means that, how do you know that GOD SAID IT? Who ever said it was just a man and there are after all many approaches to God and of course some of those ways may include judging as a vital facet of the path to God < tongue in cheek symbol

i cannot belive how hypocritical you are
did God say the earth was young? i can play that game too. the bible says somewhere i can't remember but do not judge for the judgements you give shall be give to you or something like that. remember it is SCRIPTURE therefore it IS GOD INSPIRED. your quote is so hypocritical. its actually quite funny. thanks for giving me a laugh. there are many approaches to God? last time i heard Jesus was the ONLY way. how do we know God said the earth is young? i thought all scripture was God inspired.

 

[Floodnut]

Your interpretation of a book says that the earth is 6000 years old.

Your interpretation of a book is God?

Your interpretation of "evidence" says that the earth is 4.7 billion years old.

Your interpretaion of temporal dirt is God? I thought so.

 

[mikeynov]

Are you sure that is what it means? Maybe it is figurative? a metaphor? Maybe Jesus was wrong. Besides, are you accusing me of judging? Aren't you judging?

It is good to know that you actually can use the Bible when it suits you, but maybe I don't think it is accurate on such matters? < tongue in cheek symbol

Apples and oranges. But keep up the artful dodging.

A reminder to everybody reading this thread:

1) Floodnut is incapable of supporting his position scripturally, and insists that a "plain" reading of the bible indicates 6000 years. This he gets by adding up the geneology in the OT. He takes this position as self-evidently true, despite YEC being the minority theological interpretation of scripture amongst legitimate scholars (note: Floodnut has not demonstrated that he is a scholar of any sort).

2) Floodnut doesn't even pretend to address any science, but insists that conventional science "mis-interprets the evidence." It's fairly obvious that Floodnut has no clue what evidence does or does not exist - but because he assumes his minority interpretation of scripture to be self-evidently true, it is "obvious" to him that the evidence must be off basis if people have an opinion that differs from his own.

 

[mikeynov]

Your interpretation of "evidence" says that the earth is 4.7 billion years old.

Your interpretaion of temporal dirt is God? I thought so.

Only one of the two of you are pretending to speak on behalf of God (a very theologically dangerous position to put yourself in, I might add). So your childish humor is not only unfunny, but isn't even contextually appropriate.

 

[Floodnut]

Your interpretation of a book says that the earth is 6000 years old.

Your interpretation of a book is God?

Your interpretation of "evidence" says that the Earth is 4.7 billion years old.

Your interpretation of temporal dirt is GOD?

 

[Praxiteles]

Your interpretation of "evidence" says that the earth is 4.7 billion years old.

Your interpretaion of temporal dirt is God? I thought so.

Show me where I made the claim that God said that the earth is 4.7 billion years old and you might even have something approaching a point.

You are claiming that God said something. However, all that you have is a book and your interpretation of it to back up this claim.