How My Life Changed After Giving Up Christianity

[Varicose Brains]

It is not going to go on as it is now. Do you not need some meaning for being alive and some hope of destiny other than oblivion? I am not against enjoying life. I am questioning your not needing anything relating to destiny and purpose.

One can derive great pleasure and meaning out of life from family, friends, art, literature, music, science, the pursuit of knowledge and many other areas. Not just this, but one can do these things with greater abundance without attaching a heaven and a hell to their existence.

I actually feel more at peace since I shrugged off a belief in an afterlife; I no longer fear God's wrath and eternal hell. I no longer have that inner turmoil at the end of each night, just before I drift off to sleep, in which I wonder whether I will make it to heaven, whether I have pleased God enough with my life.

Also, the fact remains that whether you believe in a God or not, life is still hard, it's still an often lonely walk, and you will still die (probably painfully) at the end of it. I find it comforting knowing that I will not have to face the monstrous God of the Old Testament when I breath my last.

 

[bling]

One can derive great pleasure and meaning out of life from family, friends, art, literature, music, science, the pursuit of knowledge and many other areas. Not just this, but one can do these things with greater abundance without attaching a heaven and a hell to their existence.

I actually feel more at peace since I shrugged off a belief in an afterlife; I no longer fear God's wrath and eternal hell. I no longer have that inner turmoil at the end of each night, just before I drift off to sleep, in which I wonder whether I will make it to heaven, whether I have pleased God enough with my life.

Also, the fact remains that whether you believe in a God or not, life is still hard, it's still an often lonely walk, and you will still die (probably painfully) at the end of it. I find it comforting knowing that I will not have to face the monstrous God of the Old Testament when I breath my last.

I do not understand the “Christian” believe you previously had???

I have no “worries” about hell. Since I have been given a “birthright” that includes heaven. A “birthright” cannot be taken away (yes, I could sell it, but that would be my free will decision). I have no question about God keeping His promises since I have been given the indwelling Holy Spirit as a down payment of God keeping His promises.

The solution to hell is not to decide for yourself it does not exist, how would that solve the issue?

 

[humblehumility]

Are you familiar with the documentary "Why I am no Longer Christian?" I would very much like to hear how your experiances were similar / different to those explored by Evidence.

It is 3 hours. So good luck if you do decide to endure it.
YouTube - ‪Evid3nc3's Channel‬‏

Just finished the series, I thought it was brilliant. Many of his experiences are similar to my own, although I have never spoke in tongues.

My philosophy (currently) is as such: religion provides one explanation for experience and existence. There are many others that provide equally opposing arguments. Who is true? What is truth? Certainly the answer to that is: truth is relative as is time. One person can truly believe what another person truly believes the opposite. This is no phenomena in this way of thinking, no absolute truth...only opinion. I choose not to value my life based on opinion, and I feel no remorse for doing so. God, in creating me, wouldn't do so either. He would not punish me for the provocative thinking in which he has guided me to believe.

 

[drich0150]

He would not punish me for the provocative thinking in which he has guided me to believe.

So, The God of the bible is false because there is no "proof" proofy enough for you to accept, but the god in your head who is guiding you, is defiantly there because he allows you to do and think any way you want... Is he the one who has lead you to this hypocrisy? or was it the youtube video?

-Next question

Does your god punish hypocrites?

If yes, Would you be the one that gets punished for worshiping a god with out the proof you hold the God of the bible to? or is he the one that get punished for not providing you with the exact proof you require from the God of the bible?

 

[humblehumility]

So, The God of the bible is false because there is no "proof" proofy enough for you to accept, but the god in your head who is guiding you, is defiantly there because he allows you to do and think any way you want... Is he the one who has lead you to this hypocrisy? or was it the youtube video?

The God of the Bible I believe is false because of the perfect puzzle pieces that make Christianity just another world religion, no more evidential than Islam. Again, I do not believe there is a God in my head guiding me, I am simply leveling the playing field again by assuming God on your terms (the God that judges).

Also note that the God you believe in is also completely in your head, unless you can show me otherwise.

Does your god punish hypocrites?

If yes, Would you be the one that gets punished for worshiping a god with out the proof you hold the God of the bible to? or is he the one that get punished for not providing you with the exact proof you require from the God of the bible?

You're now once again running away with the tangent that I have my own personal religion I believe in. I am completely aware that the Bible God as I see him is completely different than the Bible God as you see him. I disbelieve in both.

 

[drich0150]

The God of the Bible I believe is false because of the perfect puzzle pieces that make Christianity just another world religion, no more evidential than Islam. Again, I do not believe there is a God in my head guiding me, I am simply leveling the playing field again by assuming God on your terms (the God that judges).

Then IF you acknowledge the God of the bible Judges then in turn you must acknowledge the terms in which He does indeed Judge. After all if we are "playing on a level playing field" and you are using the bible to reference a God that judges man, then the bible (on a level playing field) is also a relevant resource to determine the terms in which Said God will judge.
according to the bible you are referencing, God will indeed judge your actions and final assessment, if you have not made or accept the atonement offered for your sins.

Now unless you are speaking of an "biased Level playing field" where you can pick and choose what it is you wish to believe and then represent it is a doctrinal truth is some twisted way. the Playing field you speak of is indeed not level.

Also note that the God you believe in is also completely in your head, unless you can show me otherwise.

Not a relevant point when speaking of a "level playing field."

You're now once again running away with the tangent that I have my own personal religion I believe in. I am completely aware that the Bible God as I see him is completely different than the Bible God as you see him. I disbelieve in both.

Not true. Disbelief requires that you do nothing to prove your disbelief. Anti-belief or unbelief requires logical support.This system of faith requires than one must account for, or dismiss all available evidence to the contrary of what the person does not believe in. This system of faith still requires "faith." Just in a reverse order.

Which means you will be judged, and severely so, simply because you chose to take your "faith" and turned it against God.

 

[LinuxUser]

But that's your belief, and I don't fault you for that.

If I could live my life as it is now, eternally, I'd do it. I enjoy the green grass, the blue sky, the changing colors of the leaves, the sound of a breeze or creek, the view of a sunset over the mountains, the view of the milky way galaxy or the moon. I could literally go on all day. I walk outside and breathe the air as deeply as I can, and I love it. I'm grateful to be alive on this planet right now, and appreciating only that feels magnificent. I truly don't need any more.

No it's not jut belief, it is Truth.

 

[christtoevo]

You mind if i ask what was the final decider for you?

 

[maizer]

Not to go all armchair psychiatrist judge on you, but it seems like your family was pretty all out on the rules motions and laws, and less on the love and acceptance of you as an independent human. A fundamental flaw.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Just wanted to point out to Faulty that you are using scripture to try and undermine an Athiest principle. This is never likely to work. Perhaps you would like to bring some evidence to the table that isn't straight from "the good book" ?

I tried that sometime back on the old General Apologetics board and didn't have much luck quoting from the "good book" either

http://www.christianforums.com/t7350852-32/#post51039482


quote: From what I've seen, LLJ is a bit of a bible-quoting robot. Often he posts things in General Apologetics that are quite off-topic.
At least he doesn't call Atheists deluded unlike most Christians. I think that he's too far gone to be saved at this point.

 

[God's Word]

humblehumility: I tried, unsuccessfully, to continue the conversation that we were having via PM's, but I just received a message telling me that you either have chosen not to receive PM's or are unable to do so. I'm not sure what's up with that, but I just wanted to let you know why you haven't heard back from me. IOW, it's not from lack of effort, but simply because I'm unable to do so. Thanks.

 

[drich0150]

My disbelief personally stems from your absolute inability to provide evidence,besides YOUR own experience or word, that your god of the bible exists. Can you disprove the countless thousand other god's you don't believe in,on the very same premise i dismiss yours?

I am sorry I am not sure what or how you have founded you argument or what you are even asking. Also How do your observations relate to the person i originally responded to?

 

[pinkputter]

Being a Christian, Jesus promises you will have trouble in this world. Why don't you believe Him?

Don't you know that there aren't shortcuts to UNCONDITIONAL Love and God and eternal life. The more I live the more black and white it really gets.

You will have positive changes in the short run but i PROMISE you they WILL not last. God is the only thing that stands the test of time. God is the answer to EVERY problem and I see that the more and more I live.

You are under false pretenses. You are seeing the devil's reward and not eternal life. I pray you see what God has to OFFER not what he has to inhibit or hold back. That's sad.

bottom line: OF COURSE your getting a benefit for living "the ways of the world" you are living in THE world. it's that plain and simple. it will not last you can mark my words. I'm not here to sugar coat. But God is there to love you if you let Him.