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How many of you own guns? How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one? How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important? How many of you shop at Wall-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees? How many? How come things regarding Western society seem so clear to me yet so many people turn the other way? How many?
 

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How many of you own guns?
Not me!
How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one
I do
How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important?
I don't feel that way
How many of you shop at Wall-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees?
I shop at Wal Mart
How many?
How many?
There are plenty of surveys out there I'm sure, but I gather this isn't the real point of your post.
How come things regarding Western society seem so clear to me yet so many people turn the other way?
What do you mean turn the other way? I think it's pretty obvious to everyone how "Western" society works. Nothing's perfect. (That's about the best and shortest answer I can give)

Peace
 
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gaijin178 said:
How many of you own guns? How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one?
Nope & no.

How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important?
Yup.

How many of you shop at Wall-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees? How many?
We have K-Mart. Dunno their pay - but would shop there if the price is good - low pay? we have a good award rate system here in Australia compared to some other countries.

How come things regarding Western society seem so clear to me yet so many people turn the other way? How many?
I don't get this question. :scratch: Its a whole university degree I reckon just to understand culture, especially when its comparing your own to another's.
 
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gaijin178 said:
How many of you own guns? How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one? How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important? How many of you shop at Wall-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees? How many? How come things regarding Western society seem so clear to me yet so many people turn the other way? How many?

1. Guns-I don't own one, but I'm not in a situation where I might need one. My Dad lives in a very rural area, and has several. He goes target shooting, and collects some antique ones. He also lives in an area where the closest police are at least 45 minutes away, so if he needed to defend himself, he would be able to. If I moved there, I guess I would feel the same. So, yes, I do support the law on that. I also support restrictions on owning them, and definitely don't feel it should be a quick and easy purchase!

2. Environment-I definitley support that, and try to do what I can.

3. Wal-mart-I HATE Wal-mart-for the low-wage, forced overtime reasons. I live in a city, and do not have to shop there, so I don't.

4. Western culture-I have no idea why some people turn the other way. Hopefully experience will teach them. Education could help. Preaching at them probably won't (not that you are doing that! Being a Californian though, I have seen plenty of it, and never felt it would help.)

Interesting post!

Blessings!

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gaijin178 said:
How many of you own guns?
Not me - it's illegal to own a hand-gun in my country

How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one?

I for one don't think it is Just. If hand guns were made illegal in america, then maybe there wouldn't be as many shootings in america.

How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important?

This is God's earth, but we have been put in charge of it. If we don't take care of it, who will?

How many of you shop at Wall-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees?

I don't shop a ASDA (owned by Wal-Mart) but from what I heard, those that work in ASDA do get paid far more than their american counterparts.

How come things regarding Western society seem so clear to me yet so many people turn the other way?

People are dumb.
 
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I used to think, 'never shall I own such a disgusting tool of violence as a gun', but then, while I was talking to Buddhist, he told me about how, once he had passed his naturalization test, he celebrated by exercising as many Bill of Rights rights as possible. He wound up with a Desert Eagle pistol. Of course, he never bought any bullets for it, so all it is good for is symbolizing the freedoms of this country and frightening off the gullible. So I thought to myself, 'Well hey, if a pistol can be a symbol of freedom and justice, then there's no calll for me to be hating on it with such vehemence'.

That said, I don't own a gun myself, but I do support anyone's right to own a fully loaded firearm.

The environment is important, very important, and it weirds me out to see folks throwing garbage on the street and companies doing the same on a grander level.

Tch, I warned folk when WalMart came along, I said, "Dudes, people are running this store that are smarter than all of us! And it is clear that those people don't have our best interests in mind. I'm telling y'all, if you shop there, they're devising some capitalist trick to pull down the line!". But nooo, they wanted cheap and accessible merchandise.

Lol, society seems clear to a great many people, but they still tend to get blindsided by it every now and again. What does that tell ya?
 
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S Walch said:
Not me - it's illegal to own a hand-gun in my country



I for one don't think it is Just. If hand guns were made illegal in america, then maybe there wouldn't be as many shootings in america.



This is God's earth, but we have been put in charge of it. If we don't take care of it, who will?



I don't shop a ASDA (owned by Wal-Mart) but from what I heard, those that work in ASDA do get paid far more than their american counterparts.



People are dumb.

(one big sigh)...... Well, the law-abiding gun owners wouldn't be shooting much, that's for sure. I'm not so sanguine about the law- breaking gun owners, however.
 
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gaijin178 said:
How many of you own guns? How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one? How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important? How many of you shop at Wall-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees? How many? How come things regarding Western society seem so clear to me yet so many people turn the other way? How many?

--I don't own one anymore. If you have a gun for protection, it makes zero sense to have it unloaded.
--Environmental protection is good stewardship according to the Word of God.
--If there were one here, I would. K-mart, however, suits me just fine for now.
--Such as??
 
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gaijin178 said:
How many of you own guns?

I admit that I'd like to have one at home, just in case. However, here in Germany it's not easy to get permission to own a gun, let alone carry it around in public. Very few exceptions to that law are possible, e. g. for hunters.

gaijin178 said:
How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one?

I honestly wonder what this right is supposed to be good for. Unless one absolutely needs a revolver, why should one need a gun already loaded? Inserting a magazine is a matter of some few seconds...

gaijin178 said:
How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important?

Not me. I'm definitely not a perfect environmentalist, but I try my best to not harm this planet more than necessary.

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How many of you shop at Wall-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees?

We have few Walmarts here, but certain other companies are currently being criticized for very much the same. They aren't nice to their employees, but then it is hard to beat the low prices. Kind of a dilemma. :(
 
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Thank you all for your posts. I have to admit, I do get worked up a lot about America. Plus, I would like to thank those from outside of the States who have replied. This almost proves my point. Why, in a country like America, with the right to bear arms, are there more murders than any other country in the world? Does this have any connection with spirituality and religion? Or something else? I am dying to understand.
 
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How many of you own guns?

Not I.

How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one?

I don't quite understand this question.

How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important?

Not I.

How many of you shop at Wall-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees?

I do because I can't afford to shop elsewhere. Open a shop in my town that pays fair and equitable wages and has as low or lower prices than Wal-Mart, and I'll shop there. Give me a job and pay me a more than living wage, and I'll shop places other than Wal-Mart. Till then, I'm shopping there. ::shrugs::

How come things regarding Western society seem so clear to me yet so many people turn the other way?

It's that way for everyone. I don't understand how anyone can support the death penalty, yet numerous people do.
 
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gaijin178 said:
How many of you own guns?

Not me. I'm scared of guns.

How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one?

I do.

How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important?

Important? Yes, as a means to human well-being.

How many of you shop at Wal-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees?

If it's a market wage, it's a just wage. Wall-Mart isn't a charity. Yes, I have shopped there without guilt.
 
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gaijin178 said:
Thank you all for your posts. I have to admit, I do get worked up a lot about America. Plus, I would like to thank those from outside of the States who have replied. This almost proves my point. Why, in a country like America, with the right to bear arms, are there more murders than any other country in the world? Does this have any connection with spirituality and religion? Or something else? I am dying to understand.

all the crimes in america cannot be attributable solely on the "right to bear arms". guns don't kill people, people kill people. There are so many social problems in america it is difficult to know where to start. Most of the problems are more prevelant in the urban areas.

1. broken families (50% divorce rate in america) children being raised by single working parent, hence very little guidance and supervision for children who turn to their peers for guidance gangs, drugs, alcohol, etc, which leads to crimes in order to make money to live that glamorized lifestyle that rappers and hollywood types live.

2. discriminatory educational system, do you know that predominately black areas in america gets much less per student funding for schools than do white area, in the same city.

3. glamorization of violence in tv, video games, and movies. children are very impressionable, if they are exposed to such things then violence becomes "normal" for them.

4. weak family structure, in the economic structure of america both parents must work to send their children to college or to maintain a "middle class" lifestyle, this leaves the children unsupervised and free to do what they want.

5. drugs trade.

some kids on long island used a stolen credit card, bought a frozen turkey from a supermarket, and while joy riding in their car, they threw the frozen turkey into the windshield of another car almost killing the middle aged women driving the car.,
guns aren't the only way to kill people.
the right to bear arms was included in the consititution so the people will have a means to protect themselves from crime, also to protect themselves against a government run amok.

the adults of today were the children of yesterday, analyze the social structure of children today, you will know what we are to expect in the future, i don't think things are getting better just worse. while america consentrates on invading and killing other people throughout the world it is slowly falling apart at home.
 
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Being concerned about the misuse of fire arms is a good thing... It's too easy for people to acquire firearms and I think people that own them add an element of danger and risk to their lives... I'd like to see all the firearms collectively seized and destroyed or melted down into wheel chairs, walkers or things that people really need.

If i had a way to advise public officials or legislation I think i would urge outlawing personal ownership of weapons... and only permit those who need to hunt for their food say in remote areas of Alaska to be permitted to own them.

Walmart is a blessing and a curse at the same time... Lower prices are of course the magnet for many...and Walmart employs a lot of people, but at what a cost to small communities across the country? Think of all the small businesses that are the backbone of our communities that have gove out of business. I like supporting small independently owned businesses in my community...the cost is greater but the service is better and they'll remember your name next time you shop there. Small businesses are families and when you hurt small business you're hurting families.

I'd like to see better shelters for homeless women and their children and medical care that can reach the poor and thpose without insurance. What happened to the "safety nets" that should support people when they lose their jobs or when they have catastrophic illnesses?

Our Social Security system should be on a stronger footing and not open to investment in risky stock investments.

Our Medical insurance should be nationalized so no one is left out.

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gaijin178 said:
How many of you own guns? How many of you think that the right to have a gun loaded is a just one? How many of you feel that the environment is something that isn't important? How many of you shop at Wall-Mart with the low wages it pays it's employees? How many? How come things regarding Western society seem so clear to me yet so many people turn the other way? How many?

Don't own a Gun.
Owning a loaded gun should be legal (although full assault rifles, mortars, grenades, and etc.. should be strictly controlled)
The environment is important, both economically and aesthetically.
One shops wherever it is most convenient.
Gotta love prejudices. Did it ever occur, you might be in the wrong?
Many for both sides and anywhere inbetween.
 
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Blackmarch said:
Don't own a Gun.
Owning a loaded gun should be legal (although full assault rifles, mortars, grenades, and etc.. should be strictly controlled)
The environment is important, both economically and aesthetically.
One shops wherever it is most convenient.
Gotta love prejudices. Did it ever occur, you might be in the wrong?
Many for both sides and anywhere inbetween.

Yeah, I constantly am looking to see whether or not I am in the wrong. If I always think that I am right, then I must be wrong.
 
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gaijin178 said:
Yeah, I constantly am looking to see whether or not I am in the wrong. If I always think that I am right, then I must be wrong.
the same thing here too, although the correct way to state it is if we think we are always right, then at some point we will be wrong.. note it's not like someone is totally devoid or totally has 100% truth. However that doesn't mean you got to say that someone is right at the expense of your own convictions, but do polite and respectful about it.
 
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