jerry kelso
Food For Thought
5thkingdom,
1. You are the one that was saying it specifically says that this the first kingdom of Heaven, 2nd, etc.
I pointed out it said no such thing and now you are having to backtrack and clarify what I told you in the beginning about context.
I also told you that you more or less was dividing up the KoH's just like dispensations and that can lead to trouble in some things due to hermeneutical views. That is why there are different types of dispensationalism.
The Bible doesn't say there was the dispensation of conscience but the context shows that is how God dealt with them and is what they will be judged by in Romans 2.
So I believe you are the one who is not understanding the truth.
Even Daniel doesn't label specifically 1-5 KoH.
He does call them a kingdom and and four great beasts etc.
Since the KoH is the earthly sphere of the Universal KoG in their physical aspect we can say the KoH.
2. The Jews didn't know about the mystery of the church and that is true Acts 10:48; Ephesians 2:14-15; 3:3-6.
Peter and the disciples still believe the KoH reign would happen but were confused and Jesus said it is not for you to know the time of restoration cause only the father knows.
Peter's ministry was basically To Christian Jews and that is why the KoH slant appears in his books and ministry and even on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2.
The main reason the disciples didn't understand many things in the early church especially was gradual revelation and circumstances of the time and what they were taught specifically or not.
For example of gradual revelation is that the mystery of the church was ratified by the cross Ephesians 2:14-16 but not manifested till Acts 10 with Peter and the Vision of the clean and unclean and Ephesians 3:3-6 with Paul.
3. The first resurrection in Revelation 20:4-6 is about tribulation believers that didn't take the mark of the beast who are physically resurrected.
John 11:25-26 is about Jesus saying he was the resurrection and the life and he that believeth in me shall live forever is spiritual.
For a Christian it has to be the First Resurrection in order to be saved and to be resurrected physically to go to Heaven.
I told you being born again and the KoG has a spiritual aspect concerning salvation and the cross which is the same as being translated into the kingdom of his dear son Colossians 1:13.
Once again you are not comprehending too well.
4. The resurrection of the bodies at the 7th Trump in Revelation 11:14 is not true.
The 7th Trump is in the middle of the tribulation and not at the end of the tribulation.
This is because they are before and end before the vials begin which is the Wrath of God Revelation 15:1-2 upon the beast kingdom worshippers Revelation 16:2.
Also, Revelation 12 is in the days of the 7th trumpet which reveals the mystery of God being finished Revelation 10:7 which was the Satan, accuser of the brethren being cast out of the war in Heaven Revelation 12:10.
Israel goes into the wilderness and the remnant of her seed is scattered v 17.
The 7th trumpet days is the transition of Satan handing over the power and seat and authority to the Antichrist which is in Revelation 13:2.
The 7th trumpet of Revelation 11 is not the last trump of 1 Corinthians 15:51-52.
5. Daniel 's 4 kingdoms historically was Babylon, Medes and Persians, Greece, and Rome Daniel 2:38-40-43; 7:3-7.
The Ten horns are actually future from Daniel 7:7,24.
Verse 8; the little horn is the Antichrist who comes up among the 10 horns and plucks three of them up.
This goes in line with Revelation 17 and the Ten Horns.
6. Going back to the four kingdoms in Daniel are a part of the seven kingdoms in Revelation 17:9-11.
In short the kings in verse 10 and 11 of the 7 heads in verse 9 are the nations that oppressed Israel historically and future.
a). Egypt
b). Assyria
c). Babylon
d). Medes and Persians
e). Greece
f). Rome
g). The future Revised Roman Empire which will be the Ten horns.
h). The Antichrist kingdom which is of the seventh because he plucks up among the Ten horns and plucks 3 of them up.
The Antichrist is the eighth which is his own beast kingdom Revelation 13.
7. The Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17 is the religious system which the Ten horns will hate and with the help of the Antichrist will get rid of the religious system which is the harlot 16:18.
This will happen in the middle of the tribulation and then the Antichrist will set up his own religious system with the beast with the two horns and the lamb Revelation 13:11-15.
8. In conclusion, I understand the KoH as this earthly sphere there is the time that concerns the Jewish kingdom and the Christian kingdom and the tribulation kingdom and the eternal kingdom.
It probably would be easier for most if you said the Jewish period or Christian period etc on the KoH physical earth.
A-millennialists like Catholics believe the millennial kingdom is now instead of future and deals with the Davidic Covenant because God rules from Heaven.
This is not true when talking about the physical KoH reign on earth because the King is not here physically because he has not taken over the Kingdoms of the earth Revelation 11:15 and the restoration on earth has not happened yet because creation is groaning and waiting for restoration Roman's 8:22.
Also, your interpretation of Matthew 13 about the Christian KoH at the end of the age is wrong is because the Church will be raptured.
So you are confused and are trying to prove details when you don't understand the big picture and you have tunnel vision and faulty hermeneutics. Jerry kelso
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