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How many have actually read The Great Controversy or The Desire of Ages...

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That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8:4
Is the Law of God - The Ten Commandments, carnal or spiritual?

Are these prophecies about Jesus Christ?
The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable. Isaiah 42:21

And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. Isaiah 8:14

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FULFILL
bring to completion or reality; achieve or realize (something desired, promised, or predicted).
Christ fulfilled it and fulfilled it for us.

The Law is still in effect. For all those judged as unbelievers.
Believer's salvation is judged by grace through faith.( by Jesus keeping the law thereby fulfilling it)
Now should we keep that Law in our heart? Yes. The law is easy to understand. It is all about love. If you love you will not sin.
I thank you for turning of the psychedelics for a moment. I do desire to read your work.
 
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^_^^_^ Big bonfire I bet.
I also had "desire of ages" and "patriarchs and profits" but they were too long to bother reading, though I was told by somebody that "desire of ages" was not too bad a read. I ended up giving "desire of ages" to a pentecostal lady I know and tossed "patriarchs and prophets" in the big wheely bin. They were all pushed into my mail box by somebody who walking around the neighbourhood, a few neighbours mentioned getting them too and tossing them in the bin.

The fire starter worked well, about 700 pages to burn ;)
 
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You are not giving me the truth but judging me based on your works salvation theology.

Excuse my language, but you are an idiot! Read what I have stated. Have I endeavored to place you under law? No!!!!

He accepted me way before I accepted Him and He showed me that I needed a savior.

Yes...that's true. See Romans 5:18....But you also needed to accept Him by faith (see Rom 5:17). That moment you went from under law to under grace.

What about if you hadn't received Christ? If Christ did away with the law, as you err in thinking, then there's nothing left to condemn you. That's universalism, which states everyone will be saved anyway.


All Christians are under grace not under the Law.

No kidding....Tell me something I don't know!:doh::doh::doh::doh:
 
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... I ended up giving "desire of ages" to a pentecostal lady I know ...
Thank you for sharing it.
What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice. Philippians 1:18

For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth. 2 Corinthians 13:8
As for the other book, the Patriarchs and Prophets, which you thought that you had thrown away, more often than not, as I have seen in numerous cases, reaches the hands of others. Yet, even if not, the Word is preached, and the event recorded, as a witness.
 
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Define "love" in that sentence, then answer the question, What is "sin"?


The opposite of agape. Self-love is the the opposite of agape. Agape is what makes law keeping possible. This we do not have by nature.

Agape is not self-seeking. (1 Cor 13:5) Agape never lives for itself.

Here's Paul: 1 Corinthians 10:24 KJV Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.

If you are living for yourself...if you are loving self then you aren't "loving your neighbor". Self-love fulfills sins. Agape fulfills the law.

If I really loved my neighbor as I loved myself, my neighbor would have all my goodies. I am a sinner....Yes I'm growing, but growth doesn't save me. The law demands all or nothing. I need Christ and I need to be delivered from under law.
 
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Define "love" in that sentence, then answer the question, What is "sin"?


The opposite of agape. Self-love is the the opposite of agape. Agape is what makes law keeping possible. This we do not have by nature.

Agape is not self-seeking. (1 Cor 13:5) Agape never lives for itself.

Here's Paul: 1 Corinthians 10:24 KJV Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.

If you are living for yourself...if you are loving self then you aren't "loving your neighbor". Self-love fulfills sins. Agape fulfills the law.

If I really loved my neighbor as I loved myself, my neighbor would have all my goodies. I am a sinner....Yes I'm growing, but growth doesn't save me. The law demands all or nothing. I need Christ and I need to be delivered from under law.
 
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...I thank you for turning of the psychedelics for a moment. I do desire to read your work.
Ok, what say you then?

Are these prophecies about Jesus Christ?
The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable. Isaiah 42:21

And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. Isaiah 8:14​


 
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The Law is still in effect. For all those judged as unbelievers.

You are very, very smart....Finally, someone with eye sight.


Believer's salvation is judged by grace through faith.( by Jesus keeping the law thereby fulfilling it)
You sir are a genius.
 
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I also had "desire of ages" and "patriarchs and profits" but they were too long to bother reading, though I was told by somebody that "desire of ages" was not too bad a read. I ended up giving "desire of ages" to a pentecostal lady I know and tossed "patriarchs and prophets" in the big wheely bin. They were all pushed into my mail box by somebody who walking around the neighbourhood, a few neighbours mentioned getting them too and tossing them in the bin.

The fire starter worked well, about 700 pages to burn ;)

Sounds like you and your neighbors are set for the winter.:D
 
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Define "love" in that sentence, then answer the question, What is "sin"?
Really, you don't know? Maybe you should put down those odd books a while and read the gospels. It will show you the greatest love of all.
Love is the act of putting another before self.
Sin is the result of not loving. You can find that in the Parables in those gospels i'm suggesting.
 
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Many years ago.

According to you the law was done away with 2000 yrs ago.

You aren't that old....

Now, you accepted Christ....why?

To go from condemnation to grace, right? To go from hell (the 2nd death) to eternal life, right?

Well, what condemned you that you would flee to Christ?

Answer: The law!
 
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You are very, very smart....Finally, someone with eye sight.



You sir are a genius.

Errr look at that little pink thing under my name.:doh:
Sir Mama. does have a nice ring to it.
 
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Nah, no checklist necessary.

Well, Paul says different:

Romans 7:7 I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."
 
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