How many dimensions are there?

[TScott]

I'm left to believe that there are three dimensions per increment of time.
I'm not all together sure if that qualifies as "extra dimensional".
Any input anyone?

Do you mean the three dimensions we normally think of? If so do you not think of time as a dimension as well?

 

[bricklayer]

Do you mean the three dimensions we normally think of? If so do you not think of time as a dimension as well?

Yes: width, height, depth.
Yes; time is a dimension, but it is also a progressive sequence of widths, heights and depths. Time is the progressive sequential increments of the matter-space continuum.
The fourth dimension (time) seems to me to be a multiplier of the other three dimensions.

 

[TScott]

Yes: width, height, depth.
Yes; time is a dimension, but it is also a progressive sequence of widths, heights and depths. Time is the progressive sequential increments of the matter-space continuum.

What is the duration of these sequential increments? Is there such a thing as an instant in time? If there is, is time stopped in that instant?

 

[GrayAngel]

What is the duration of these sequential increments? Is there such a thing as an instant in time? If there is, is time stopped in that instant?

Well, they say that space can be infinitely divided into smaller and smaller increments. If that's true, the same might be said of time.

 

[Ronald]

The fourth dimension is time which can be altered by speed or gravity, Einstein proved this. Quantum physics infers other dimensions. The missing force that holds the universe together is outside physics which they'll never get a handle on. We know that it is God. Now the spiritual dimension where God dwells may have multiple dimensions. Our new bodies will be able to appear and disappear in a physical realm, fly and also distance would not be a factor --instantaneous, I'd imagine. Angels are able to do this yet there are dimensions that even they are not able to use, those billions of dimensions of God. What do I mean by that? Every person's past, present and future has a dimension in a sense that includes personal thoughts, experiences, relationships, talents, purpose, etc. Now multiply that by the billions of people that have ever lived. You have each individual's dimension (his life and perception of reality or so to speak) and then you get complicated when you orchestrate events and other people into eachothers dimension and on and on, expanding your purpose and plan for the entire planet with precision, leading to a moment in time when everything comes together, the fullness of the gentile era, the Great Tribulation Period, the Millenium and then, behold, I create all things new: The New Jerusalem.
I think I've created a new dimension, it's got depth and it's abstract and ... oh, I'm now lost in it -- help!

 

[bricklayer]

What is the duration of these sequential increments? Is there such a thing as an instant in time? If there is, is time stopped in that instant?

I suppose I should have written that time is the "progressive-sequential-increments" of the matter-space continuum.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Some say that there is a possibility for more than the three dimensions that we take for granted. There are multiple theories out there, each taking a different approach at explaining these higher dimensions. Depending on your method, you can reach as many as nine or eleven dimensions.

I've been trying to wrap my head around this, and I've come up with something a different than what I've seen, trying to blend together the different theories I've come up with. I'm sure I'm not the first to try this, but I haven't seen a theory to match yet. I've run into a roadblock, however, and I wonder what some of you brainiacs think of what I have so far.

To summarize, I've developed a pattern. You start with a point, then you bring two points together with a line, then you make intersections of lines, and you add depth after that. Finally, you bring everything together into a single point and start over.

The dimensions:

0th - This would be seen as a single point in space.

1st - A single line between two points in space would create a one-dimensional picture.

2nd - Intersecting lines create a two dimensional picture in space.

3rd - If you add distance, or depth, then you get a three-dimensional picture.

4th - For the fourth dimension, imagine you could see every single point in space from every possible angle all at once. Treating the whole of space as a single point, you get the fourth dimension.

5th - Up until this point, we've treated time as a single point. In our three-dimensional would, the images we see give us only one picture of time in each given moment. But if we had eyes that could see fifth-dimensional pictures, then we would see a line between two points of time. If you looked at a door, you'd see that door open, you'd a person pass through it and strike a conversation with another person in the room, and you'd see that person leave again through the door. All of these things would be seen at once, as a single image.

6th - Next we add intersecting lines of time. Previously, we only got to see one possible stream of events. But with sixth-dimensional eyes, we'd see multiple possible futures at once.

7th - Next, we add depth to time. Now, not only can we see multiple possible futures, but we can see impossible futures as well. No matter what decisions you make, some futures you see could not possibly become a reality due to circumstances outside of your control. The only way to make those impossible futures come true would be to travel back in time and change the flow of time to look like the future that was previously impossible.

8th - Now, we return to a point again, bringing every point in space and every possible and impossible reality into a single point.

9th - What if there were universes separate our own, each with different origins and different laws. Perhaps, for example, the law of gravity works differently in one dimension than it does in our own. No matter how far you travel in space, no matter how long we see into the future, we will never end up in any of these other universes. Because of this, we can treat each universe as if it were a single point. Now if we could draw a line between the two, seeing both our universe and the universes outside of our own, then we'd see ninth-dimensionally.

10th - What if we could find a way to travel from our universe into another? If this were possible, then we would be creating a new set of possible and impossible realities which were not possible to see with each dimension in isolation. If we could see these possibilities, we'd be experiencing the 10th dimension of reality.

11th - This is where I hit a roadblock. To follow the pattern, we must find a way to add depth to the picture again. The only other step I can think of would be to see every universe and all of their possible and impossible realities as a single point, which would be skipping a step.

If there are only a finite number of universes then perhaps one could see all possible universes in the 11th. This is in keeping with your 7th because in the 7th you can also see impossible things that never happened.

I doubt this is the real state of reality though. the 11 dimensions in theoretical physics that I have read about refer to spatial dimensions, not time. Two theories I remember are that either they are 'curled up' very small so we can't see them (whatever that means), or that we are inside the other dimensions just as 2D is within 3D. If you were 2D you wouldn't be able to see outside of your plane of existence.

Very interesting though. Sadly we may not know in our lifetimes though.

I think in maths the number of possible dimensions approaches infinity. In practice calculations are only hampered by the amount of time and paper available.

There are three spatial dimensions to any one increment of time.

I just bought a 3d tv, there's no way I'm upgrading to a 11d tv.

Wow, multiple dimensions are hard for me to wrap my mind around, I guess I'm hopelessly stuck here in a three dimensional existence-although if I try real hard I can imagine that I'm actually living in a four dimensional existence.

It seems that if we take a "slice" of each dimension we get an idea of the dimension lower. For example if we take a slice of a three dimension object, say a sphere, we get a two dimensional disk. If we take a slice of the disk, we get a one dimesional line. And finally if we take a slice of a line we get a dimensionless point. It seems that this phenom happens because each dimension is at right angles with the dimension before it. Keeping this in mind I can "reverse engineer" this process to get and idea of what the fourth dimension is like, and it seems very likely that the fourth dimension is indeed time: the sphere, as a whole, moves in time at right angles from it's original position (in time).

Eleven dimensions of our existence.

The first there are the spatial dimensions we are familiar with: length, width, and depth.

The fourth dimension is time. If we were to view ourselves in the 4th dimension, we would see our lives in a chronological manner, like a big snake with every moment from the beginning to the end represented.

The fifth dimension is that of divergent choices. As a five dimensional being, we view not only the sequence of our lives, but also the divergences that are the product of choice. Or lives seem more like a tree now. Although we have a definite trunk (our 4 dimensional lives) we have a small branch everytime make a decision, and each branch has many branches to represent subsequent decisions relating to the initial break away from the 4th dimension.

The 6th dimension shows us many trees like that of the 5th dimension. We see our lives, with their timelines and branches of choices. All of these trees are our lives, but in the multi-verse there are an infinite number of potential realities that exist with us in them. The difference between these universes are conditions before our birth. These could be versions of us in universes where the laws of physics and reality are different, or realities where we were aborted before birth (a small branchless tree, I guess).

Being 7 dimensional entails omnipotence. In the 7th dimension, a single point is what 'infinity' is. It covers every possibility, from our perspective or otherwise. You will see all the trees, how they relate to eachother and the 5 dimensions below them.

The 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th dimensions are almost incoherent to us. Although their existence is real, we won't really be able to understand them until we can experience the concept of infinity.

These are some interesting analogies, but there is no physical reason to say dimensions exist. They are mathematical (or in this case metaphysical) descriptors. So, you can pretty much make up any set of dimensions you choose.

Numbers are infinite so there must be infinite dimensions.

Please refer to post 4

or just tell me I don't exist

or am a complete idiot

 

[TScott]

Please refer to post 4

or just tell me I don't exist

or am a complete idiot

I'm sorry M&M, but I didn't understand post #4 so I didn't respond.

The whole thing started when it was noted that the electron associated with an atom had to be in orbit to produce the magnetic field, but that if it was in orbit it would produce an EM wave emission, so it would radiate energy, meaning it would lose it rapidly and stop.

This part didn't make sense to me, so it's as far as I got. Magnetic fields are caused by the movement of charged particles, typically, but not exclusively an electron moving from one atom to the next down a string of atoms will produce a magnetic field around the string. I've never heard of what you described so wouldn't know how to comment.

 

[TScott]

I suppose I should have written that time is the "progressive-sequential-increments" of the matter-space continuum.

I'm still having a problem with the "sequential" part because I'm not sure there is an absolute increment in time. Can you break time down into the smallest possible increment? Is there a "smallest increment of time"? I don't think there is, therefore I'm not understanding the increment part.

 

[pgp_protector]

I'm still having a problem with the "sequential" part because I'm not sure there is an absolute increment in time. Can you break time down into the smallest possible increment? Is there a "smallest increment of time"? I don't think there is, therefore I'm not understanding the increment part.

IIRC "smallest increment of time" it's called Plank time ( 10[sup]-43[/sup] second) ?

 

[TScott]

IIRC "smallest increment of time" it's called Plank time ( 10[sup]-43[/sup] second) ?

Planck units such as Planck time and Planck length are units used for theoretical purposes in Physics such as dimensional analysis. It is not known, for example, if a distance of 1/1000000 of a Planck length is impossible, so therefore it can't be said that Planck units are absolute.

 

[bricklayer]

I'm still having a problem with the "sequential" part because I'm not sure there is an absolute increment in time. Can you break time down into the smallest possible increment? Is there a "smallest increment of time"? I don't think there is, therefore I'm not understanding the increment part.

I mean increment as any portion of the whole.
Regardless of the duration of temporal increments, they are progressive;
that is to say that, no two increments of time can occur simultaneously.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

One dimension that people have to deal with is that of value. Every action and event, every state of affairs and every alternative to it has a value. Faced with this reality, and given understanding and choice, we become ethical beings.

 

[cXXo]

I mean increment as any portion of the whole.
Regardless of the duration of temporal increments, they are progressive;
that is to say that, no two increments of time can occur simultaneously.

That's ludicrous. You are proposing that it is impossible for things to move diagonally.

 

[Buy Bologna]

In my personal Opinion, String theory is way over hyped.

But maybe that's bcuz i guess i just don't understand most of it.

It just seems to me that the scientific community want's another great equation such as E=MC. But nothing will beat that.

IDK. i gave 'the elegant universe' a shot. and was like 'whoa, 4get this, this just isn't computing for me right now.' But if any of you feel you understand astro, quantem physics and an advanced level, you should give it a read. I'm dissecting things from it very slowly right now.

 

[ivebeenshown]

Physically, there are three dimensions to space.

Metaphysically, or whatever it is called, there are two: the spiritual and the material.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Physically, there are three dimensions to space.

Metaphysically, or whatever it is called, there are two: the spiritual and the material.

What about the natural, the preternatural and the supernatural?

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Does the OP think that if the scientists can't discover the answers then the philosophers will be able to help? I think that if this issue is going to be decided it will be done by a physicist rather than a philosopher.

 

[GrayAngel]

Does the OP think that if the scientists can't discover the answers then the philosophers will be able to help? I think that if this issue is going to be decided it will be done by a physicist rather than a philosopher.

I don't think this is something science can touch. But maybe I'm wrong. As for philosophy, maybe. Philosophers have argued many different things very persuasively, often times contradicting one another, so I'm of the opinion that few things can be known absolutely.

It may be, as someone said either, a simple matter of definition.

 

[drjean]

Did anyone mention the wormhole that 2 pilots have gone through in the "Devil's Triangle" off the Florida coast? (Linbergh was one of them, btw but was afraid no one would believe him, and left to write about it in his final book.)

I know for sure there is more than 3 dimensions.

LOL I often sense I'm in a vortex of overlapping parallel universes from time to time too.


I've been able to slow external time down, yet pass through it in real time to be able to be some where on time.

I've also experienced (as I think many others have as well) the Slow-Motion of time-space during a very fearful event.

Sorry, my brain isn't in it's quantum physics/mechanics node tonight... but I'll try to refind the thread when it is