How many agree with this

[TraderJack]

He's having a religious Vanilla Ice Cream dream at the moment.

With a polished nose.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

How did the Muslims come about venerating the Mary of the NC so much?

Google Results 1 - 10 of about 198,000 for muslim venerate mary.

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordp...and-mary-queen-of-heaven-the-new-ecumenicism/


While the title of this chapter may seem strange to the reader, it is appropriate, as we will see. How could the Queen of Heaven have any influence on the millions of Muslims who follow Allah? Those who have studied the Muslim’s holy book, known as the Koran, may be aware of the answer. First, the Koran portrays Jesus Christ as a prophet, unique in His preincarnate nature, miraculous birth, miracles and moral stature. Muslims revere Jesus Christ. As the Koran states:

Mary in the Koran

Mary is mentioned no less than 34 times in the Koran. ​

http://christianforums.com/t5615012-jesus-christ...l-mankind.html
-jesus-christ-was-he-sent-for-all-mankind​

Hello.We muslims believe he was sent to the sons of Israel not for all mankind.This doesnt mean the one who follows Him in real does a wrong job but this is God's plan for He sent Muhammed-aleyhissalam-to all mankind.

Which proofs do christians have to claim that Jesus was sent to entire humanity and not only to the israelites?​

 

[Albion]

Exactly. Mormons say they worship the same god, the God of Abraham too.

So, we must look past the words used, and into the meanings that are poured into those words, which clearly defines the god of Islam is NOT "one and the same" God of the Holy Scriptures and historic Christian faith.

Yes, I really think this is the deciding consideration.

Do Mormons, for example, follow the same leader we do...if they use the same name for Jesus (as they do) while defining a totally different being with a totally different nature, experiences, teachings, etc.?

I'm inclined to say, "no."

So also with Allah, who started out as a pagan deity and only later had the reputation of Jehovah attached to him by Mohammad.

 

[TraderJack]

Looks like those catholics thought JP2 taught heresy101...

Not only JPII but many other popes and RC councils.

www.romancatholicism.org

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Any response from RCs on post #103 since this thread is also concerning Islam? Thanks.

Is the god of Islam and Roman Catholicism one and the same god?

 

[ByeAndBye]

If you are talking about the GOD of Abraham, yes they are.

It is sad how few Christians are aware of this!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

It is sad how few Christians are aware of this!

Their view of the Isaac in the OC [and of course the Mary in the NC] is also a little different than Christianity's.

http://christianforums.com/t2948328&page=5
Muslims Why Isaac was Abraham's "only son"

quote Muslim: There are three distinct points which every true believer in God must accept as truths. The first point is that Ishmael is the legitimate son of Abraham, his first-born, and therefore his claim to birthright is quite just and legal. The second point is that the Covenant was made between God and Abra- ham as well as his only son Ishmael before Isaac was born. The Covenant and the institution of the Circumcision would have no value or signification unless the repeated promise contained in the Divine words, "Throughout thee all the nations of the earth shall be blessed," and especially the expression, the Seed "that shall come out from the bowels, he will inherit thee"

 

[simonthezealot]

Their view of the Isaac in the OC [and of course the Mary in the NC] is also a little different than Christianity's.

whose ?

 

[ScottBot]

You raise a valid point there bro.

And what point would that be?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

nm

Umm, what does that mean?

 

[ScottBot]

Any response from RCs on post #103 since this thread is also concerning Islam? Thanks.

Is the god of Islam and Roman Catholicism one and the same god?

I responded and I said yes.

 

[ScottBot]

Not only JPII but many other popes and RC councils.

www.romancatholicism.org

Sedevacantism, the religion for those more Catholic than the Pope. Maybe you should go check out Pope Michael. Here's right here in the U S of A.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I responded and I said yes.

Ok but what about the posts I put up? Any thoughts on those? [I could always repost them]

 

[PassthePeace1]

How did the Muslims come about venerating the Mary of the NC so much?

Google Results 1 - 10 of about 198,000 for muslim venerate mary.

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordp...and-mary-queen-of-heaven-the-new-ecumenicism/


While the title of this chapter may seem strange to the reader, it is appropriate, as we will see. How could the Queen of Heaven have any influence on the millions of Muslims who follow Allah? Those who have studied the Muslim’s holy book, known as the Koran, may be aware of the answer. First, the Koran portrays Jesus Christ as a prophet, unique in His preincarnate nature, miraculous birth, miracles and moral stature. Muslims revere Jesus Christ. As the Koran states:

Mary in the Koran

Mary is mentioned no less than 34 times in the Koran. ​

http://christianforums.com/t5615012-jesus-christ...l-mankind.html
-jesus-christ-was-he-sent-for-all-mankind​

Hello.We muslims believe he was sent to the sons of Israel not for all mankind.This doesnt mean the one who follows Him in real does a wrong job but this is God's plan for He sent Muhammed-aleyhissalam-to all mankind.​

Which proofs do christians have to claim that Jesus was sent to entire humanity and not only to the israelites?​

In the end, Mary will lead Muslims to her Son, Jesus.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

In the end, Mary will lead Muslims to her Son, Jesus.

You will also have to convince them Paul wasn't a deceiver and False Apostle.

http://christianforums.com/t4410009-can-muhammad-and-paul-be-buddies.html&page=4&highlight=paul
Can Muhammad and Paul be buddies

Galatian 4:24 which-any/s is an allegory/allhgoroumena <238> (5746). For these/F are [the] two covenants, one indeed from mount Sinai into servitude generating/gennwsa <1080> who-any is Hagar;
25 For the Hagar Sinai Mount is in the Arabia, and together-rowing yet to the yet now Jerusalem, and being in servitude with her offspring,
30 but what saith the Writing? `Be Casting Out! the maid-servant and her son, for the son of the maid-servant may not be heir with the son of the free-one;' [Reve 11:2]

 

[benedictaoo]

..

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Is the God of Calvin and Islam the God of the Catholics?

Don't leave Luther out.

 

[simonthezealot]

Those defending this stance, are you not familiar with BAAL????????????

 

[nitecrawlur]

Those defending this stance, are you not familiar with BAAL????????????

British Association for Applied Linguistics?

Or you referring to the God?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

British Association for Applied Linguistics?

Or you referring to the God?

If I was an atheist I would probably come up with that also.

Baal is only mentioned once in the NC and that in Romans 11:4 though that wicked Jezebel from the OC is also mentioned in the Jewish/Hebrew book of Revelation, which I am studying on now. Thoughts?

Romans 11:4 But what is saying to him the divine-answer 'I left to myself seven-thousand men who-any not bow a knee to the Baal. [1 King 19:18]

Reve 2:20 But I am having down/against of you that you pardon the woman Jezebel the one saying herself Prophetess, and she is teaching and she is deceiving the my bondservants to fornicate and to be eating idol sacrifices.

http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/Revelation/rev46.htm

JEZEBEL

"These things saith the Son of God, who hath His eyes like unto a flame of fire, and His feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols" (Rev. 2:18-20).

There is one name in the Bible that no parents would think to give to their daughter, and that name is Jezebel. The name Jezebel sweeps across the pages of the Bible. The typical Jezebel of the Old Testament was the daughter of Ethbaal, king of Tyre and Sidon. The name Ethbaal means "with Baal." Prior to becoming king, Ethbaal was a priest to the goddess