How many 2024 predictions have already failed? How many HAVE to fail before people realise?

[ViaCrucis]

False,that is a lie.
You said the following quote.


You said this out of ignorance ,not knowing where these things are in scripture.

That is me claiming that you are wrong about what's in the Bible.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Are you blind?
Why did Jesus say to watch?
Can you not comprehend why Jesus said to watch ?Is it that hard for you?

I've already addressed that. As best as I can tell, you've ignored what I offered in answer to that.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

If you want to believe the time of the end was thousands of years ago then that is your belief.You have been misled by those who said it was.

Why should I believe you when you say it is now? What makes you more an expert than those in the past who claimed to have all the answers about the "end times"?

If your answer is "because I'm right", well, that's a bad answer. That's what they said too.

Now, I do believe we've been living in the time of the end for the last two thousand years, but that's because Scripture tells us this. When St. Peter gave his sermon on Pentecost, by the direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit, he said that the things which the people in Jerusalem were witnessing were a direct fulfillment of Joel's prophecy, in which during the Last Days God would pour out His Spirit on all flesh. The anonymous author of the Epistle to the Hebrews specifically says "in these Last Days" God spoke to us through His Incarnate Son and Word, Jesus Christ our Lord.

When does this present time of the end come to a close? When Christ returns. When does Christ return? We don't know. Jesus tells us no one knows except His Father. Since Jesus says no one knows, I don't pretend like I could know.

I'm not a soothsayer or a diviner, I don't spill pig's blood, throw bones, or do anything to try and predict what will happen tomorrow, or assign current events to some arbitrary end times scenario that I've made up in my head. The Bible tells me that divination and soothsaying are contrary to the will of God, Christ tells me to not be anxious about tomorrow, because today has sufficient problems to worry about, and to trust my Loving Father in heaven who cares for me and provides for me--for He knows the number of hairs on my head, and when the sparrow dies.

I don't know what makes you any different from the thousands of self-assured predictors of apocalyptic events of the past, except that you say so. You can wave your arms up and down and yell, "But I'm right! The Bible says so" but that's what they all said too.

Which is why I can't do anything other than what Luther did at the Diet of Worms, "If I cannot be convinced by plain reason and the clear word of God, I will not, I cannot, recant. My mind is held captive to the word of God. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God."

If you think I should believe you, then you should probably try a different approach other than throwing a tantrum.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

You just keep on telling people to disobey Jesus as you do.See what it gets you.

Lying about me isn't going to make your claims and arguments more credible.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[tailgator]

That is me claiming that you are wrong about what's in the Bible.

-CryptoLutheran

Well,you was wrong out of ignorance of what's in the bible.
You obviously don't know everything in the bible .

 

[tailgator]

Lying about me isn't going to make your claims and arguments more credible.

-CryptoLutheran

You should be encouraging people to watch as Jesus commands us to do in the gospel.

 

[tailgator]

Why should I believe you when you say it is now? What makes you more an expert than those in the past who claimed to have all the answers about the "end times"?

If your answer is "because I'm right", well, that's a bad answer. That's what they said too.

Now, I do believe we've been living in the time of the end for the last two thousand years, but that's because Scripture tells us this. When St. Peter gave his sermon on Pentecost, by the direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit, he said that the things which the people in Jerusalem were witnessing were a direct fulfillment of Joel's prophecy, in which during the Last Days God would pour out His Spirit on all flesh. The anonymous author of the Epistle to the Hebrews specifically says "in these Last Days" God spoke to us through His Incarnate Son and Word, Jesus Christ our Lord.

When does this present time of the end come to a close? When Christ returns. When does Christ return? We don't know. Jesus tells us no one knows except His Father. Since Jesus says no one knows, I don't pretend like I could know.

I'm not a soothsayer or a diviner, I don't spill pig's blood, throw bones, or do anything to try and predict what will happen tomorrow, or assign current events to some arbitrary end times scenario that I've made up in my head. The Bible tells me that divination and soothsaying are contrary to the will of God, Christ tells me to not be anxious about tomorrow, because today has sufficient problems to worry about, and to trust my Loving Father in heaven who cares for me and provides for me--for He knows the number of hairs on my head, and when the sparrow dies.

I don't know what makes you any different from the thousands of self-assured predictors of apocalyptic events of the past, except that you say so. You can wave your arms up and down and yell, "But I'm right! The Bible says so" but that's what they all said too.

Which is why I can't do anything other than what Luther did at the Diet of Worms, "If I cannot be convinced by plain reason and the clear word of God, I will not, I cannot, recant. My mind is held captive to the word of God. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God."

If you think I should believe you, then you should probably try a different approach other than throwing a tantrum.

-CryptoLutheran

I haven't said the time of the end is now.
I'm saying I'm watching prophecies being fulfilled that lead up to the time of the end and Jesus coming.

Your the one who says there are no events in scripture that takes place before Jesus coming.

 

[tailgator]

I've already addressed that. As best as I can tell, you've ignored what I offered in answer to that.

-CryptoLutheran

Ive quoted Jesus over and over saying the wicked do not know when he is coming.

You just keep insisting that no one knows because you don't.You believe if you don't know something then no one can.

It's the evil servant who doesn't watch and isn't aware of his lords coming.





Mathew 24
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

[tailgator]

Lying about me isn't going to make your claims and arguments more credible.

-CryptoLutheran

The wicked know nothing but the wise understand.



Daniel 12
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.






"and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."

 

[ViaCrucis]

Ive quoted Jesus over and over saying the wicked do not know when he is coming.

Correction: You are misquoting Jesus.

You just keep insisting that no one knows because you don't.You believe if you don't know something then no one can.

I'm quoting the Lord's own words, verbatim. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Him, or with the Evangelists who put His words to parchment.

It's the evil servant who doesn't watch and isn't aware of his lords coming.

That's not what Jesus says. But you will continue to misquote Jesus anyway.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

"and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."

I'm reminded of the Scripture that warns, "Do not be wise in your own eyes."

Just food for thought.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[tailgator]

Correction: You are misquoting Jesus.



I'm quoting the Lord's own words, verbatim. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Him, or with the Evangelists who put His words to parchment.



That's not what Jesus says. But you will continue to misquote Jesus anyway.

-CryptoLutheran

False
This is a quote.Not a misquote.
The evil servant is not aware of when his master comes.

"an hour that he is not aware of,"

Mathew 24
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

[tailgator]

I'm reminded of the Scripture that warns, "Do not be wise in your own eyes."

Just food for thought.

-CryptoLutheran

Perhaps you should focus on the things you dont understand then


Daniel 12
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

 

[parousia70]

The same ones that causes the earthquakes and fearful signs in the heavens.

Luke 21
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.



Heaven departing as a scroll being rolled together.

No no no, I mean actual literal stars falling to earth, like the text literally says.

What weapon can do that?

 

[tailgator]

No no no, I mean actual literal stars falling to earth, like the text literally says.

What weapon can do that?

You believe stars comparable to the size of the sun will fall to the earth from heaven,?

Do you lack common sense or your just not using any?

Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

 

[keras]

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

The sun blackened and the moon blood red, is also in Joel 3:30-31
Which is: ......before the great and terrible Day of the Lord.

Such cosmic things cannot be caused by any amount of nukes.
1/ the sun darkened; Caused by the sun being obscured by the huge ejected mass, hurtling toward earth.
2/ The moon blood red; Caused by the reflection of the sun flash or by the thermoluminscent reaction of the moon dust with the ejects of superheated Hydrogen.
3/ The stars falling; Our thousands of satellites pushed out of orbit'
4/ the sky rolled up like a scroll; the atmosphere on the sun facing side, will be forced apart.
5/ Mountains and Islands moved out of their places; The microwave penetration of the earths crust causing tectonic plate movement. Deut 32:22
6/ before the Day of the Lord; The ejected mass of a huge explosion of the suns surface, will take a minimum of 24 hour to strike the earth.

Even if people are incapable of understanding this scenario, at least you now know its possible and when it does happen, you will know it is from the Lord.
Just a note: That we are experiencing many Coronal Mass Ejections at present. The sun is in the active phase of its 11 year sunspot cycle.
They only cause auroras and some radio interference. But helio -scientists know and warn about how a big CMA could destroy our modern civilization.

 

[tailgator]

The sun blackened and the moon blood red, is also in Joel 3:30-31
Which is: ......before the great and terrible Day of the Lord.

Such cosmic things cannot be caused by any amount of nukes.
1/ the sun darkened; Caused by the sun being obscured by the huge ejected mass, hurtling toward earth.
2/ The moon blood red; Caused by the reflection of the sun flash or by the thermoluminscent reaction of the moon dust with the ejects of superheated Hydrogen.
3/ The stars falling; Our thousands of satellites pushed out of orbit'
4/ the sky rolled up like a scroll; the atmosphere on the sun facing side, will be forced apart.
5/ Mountains and Islands moved out of their places; The microwave penetration of the earths crust causing tectonic plate movement. Deut 32:22
6/ before the Day of the Lord; The ejected mass of a huge explosion of the suns surface, will take a minimum of 24 hour to strike the earth.

Even if people are incapable of understanding this scenario, at least you now know its possible and when it does happen, you will know it is from the Lord.
Just a note: That we are experiencing many Coronal Mass Ejections at present. The sun is in the active phase of its 11 year sunspot cycle.
They only cause auroras and some radio interference. But helio -scientists know and warn about how a big CMA could destroy our modern civilization.

Jesus literally said what happens when nation rises against nation and kingdom against kingdom.

Luke 21

10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.


The great earthquake in revelation 6 takes place when nation rises against nation .The great and terrible signs in the heavens in revelation 6 takes place when kingdom rises against kingdom.

Then the people will go underground as revelation 6 says .Those dens in the ground are called bomb shelters in our modern language and the abomination that causes all this desolation is nuclear weapons.

You can say a nuclear war will not darken the sky all you want but common sense says it will.Its a war keras.


Luke 21
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.



Israel's nuclear doctrine "the Samson option" calls for a massive nuclear reaction after a nation or nations have overcome Israel such as in Luke 21:24.When Israel is overcome by its enemies in Luke 21:24,Then it is massive nuclear war both in israel.and upon all its enemies as in Luke 21:25-26.


The Samson Option (Hebrew: ברירת שמשון, romanized: b'rerat shimshon) is Israel's deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against a country whose military has invaded and/or destroyed much of Israel.[1]

 

[keras]

You can say a nuclear war will not darken the sky all you want but common sense says it will.Its a war keras.

A nuke war in the Northern Hemisphere, would not cause the sky to darken in the Southern Hemisphere.

What is coming will not be a war at all; it will be Gods fiery wrath falling upon all the ungodly enemies. Ezekiel 7:14, Psalms 11:4-6, +

 

[tailgator]

A nuke war in the Northern Hemisphere, would not cause the sky to darken in the Southern Hemisphere.

What is coming will not be a war at all; it will be Gods fiery wrath falling upon all the ungodly enemies. Ezekiel 7:14, Psalms 11:4-6, +

No one said the entire world would be destroyed keras.The war of Armegeddon is about Israel and the surrounding nations.Its not about Canada,South Africa ,Cuba ,Japan ,or Taiwan.

Armegeddon is actually a place in Israel.
None of Israels prophets were talking about the sky over Hawaii.

 

[keras]

No one said the entire world would be destroyed keras.The war of Armegeddon is about Israel and the surrounding nations.Its not about Canada,South Africa ,Cuba ,Japan ,or Taiwan.

Armegeddon is actually a place in Israel.
None of Israels prophets were talking about the sky over Hawaii.

Armageddon is not and cannot be the next Prophesied event.
It will be the Lords Day of fiery wrath, the disaster of a similar magnitude as Noah's Flood. A worldwide devastation, which will set the scene for the rise of the 'beast', all the Prophesied things before Jesus Returns.
Proved by the cosmic signs, as plainly described.