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How many 2024 predictions have already failed? How many HAVE to fail before people realise?

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I have no idea what you're saying here.

But I do have an idea about what your idea is on "Peace peace" - and you manage to throw in a whole bunch of what you claim are biblically prophesised violent episodes that should be predictable to anyone reading the bible (the way you do).
In other words - NOT peace.
NOT sudden and unpredictable.

But VIOLENT and - because you say anyone reading the bible should predict it - PREDICTABLE.

So NOT at all like the "Days of Noah".

Matthew 24: “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man . For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."
I said it is like the days of Noah for them who are taken away.Them who are oblivious to what is about to happen.

Not like the days of Noah for them who watch.
Noah was working building an ark.He wasn't beaten in a synagogues.as Jesus said his followers would.Noah wasn't put in prison and killed for his testimony of Christ like Jesus followers are.

So no,it's not like the days of Noah for them who don't worship the beast or it's image or recieve it's mark.They are working testifying of Christ,but they are persecuted and killed.
 
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I have no idea what you're saying here.

But I do have an idea about what your idea is on "Peace peace" - and you manage to throw in a whole bunch of what you claim are biblically prophesised violent episodes that should be predictable to anyone reading the bible (the way you do).
In other words - NOT peace.
NOT sudden and unpredictable.

But VIOLENT and - because you say anyone reading the bible should predict it - PREDICTABLE.

So NOT at all like the "Days of Noah".

Matthew 24: “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man . For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."
You don't even pay attention to the words you quote.


"they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away."


Anyone who watches knows what will happen.
You don't though ,do you .
 
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Why this year? I wonder why you want to start early this year?
Yep, it's a mystery why I keep coming back... dopemine levels just remind me to come back here out of sheer morbid curiosity...

and were always worried about global warming. Lol.
Case in point.

Futurist eschatology is escapist eschatology. Rather than the gospel hope motivating Christians to get out there and evangelise - there is a temptation to sit indoors arguing over which of the End-Times-Tables they’ve dreamed up is correct.

It also creates a form of “Dualism” shows up in the modern American church. There seems to be a tension between working for the good now - and just sittinb back and waiting for Paradise.

Apparently modern American Christians never got the memo that John wrote Revelation TO his generation ABOUT his generation. His friends and brothers and sisters in Christ were about to suffer Roman persecution. But today’s narcissistic church culture thinks he just ignored them - and immediately started writing about people 2000 years in the future! Yet if you read Chapter 1 he said it was all starting soon - and that they were to OBEY his message. How do you obey something about people you cannot possibly understand 2000 years later? Imagine I said “In 4000 AD on Mars most red, the Cybers will Ztoong the Chuff! Now obey this message!” To which you would rightly say - “Huh?” That’s how futurists seem to want John to be speaking to his generation: incomprehensible words about an incomprehensible future 2000 years away - and all so irrelevant to the fact that their family and friends were just slaughtered in the Roman arena!

The other effect is that futurists keep making their frenzied predictions: and keep failing. In today’s increasingly sceptical culture - it not only embarrasses them - but makes Jesus himself appear less credible to a futurist’s audience. What’s worse? I suspect the futurist doesn’t even care. Many appear more zealous about ‘converting’ other Christians to their End-Times-Table than sharing the life giving message of salvation in Jesus to their unsaved family and friends!

The slow burn scientific facts around climate change just cannot compete in their imagination compared to the horrific beasts and events of Revelation. They scoff at climate change - without realising the ‘nature in chaos’ images in Revelation can easily encompass climate events - even though Revelation is not a prediction of the future - but a description of life generally in the thousands or tens of thousands of years between Jesus Resurrection and his Return.

So what doe sa Christian climatologist make of “Last Things”? Catherine Hayhoe - who did the TED talk on how to talk about Climate Change (with over 4 million views) - is an evangelical herself - and married to a Pastor. TED talk here. The most important thing you can do to fight climate change: talk about it

Catherine Hayhoe is an amazing witness in her work - and many environmental crusaders think of her as a hero. The UN gave her one of their highest awards - “United Nations Champion of the Earth!”

She says there are solid biblical reasons to GET STUCK INTO climate activism even as a Christian longs for the new world. One day. We don’t know when. So we have a responsibility to hand over the world to our kids better than the way we inherited it. This is a great episode - and all together a FANTASTIC apologetics podcast as well. I wish more American Christians would listen to it!
 
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So no,it's not like the days of Noah for them who don't worship the beast or it's image or recieve it's mark.They are working testifying of Christ,but they are persecuted and killed.
I see what you are saying - that there could be room to smuggle in 2 audiences. But there isn't. Jesus specifically says:

"36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen"

Again - if the 'mark of the beast' arrived - or any of a dozen other famous futurist 'predictions' from Revelation were to happen - many non-Christians I know would KNOW what it meant.
 
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Yep, it's a mystery why I keep coming back... dopemine levels just remind me to come back here out of sheer morbid curiosity...
I doubt the curiosity will be morbid for long.
I tend to ask this every new year. This year I got impatient.
I'm not curious why you keep coming back, just why so early this year. If you normally ask "every new year, this year, technically, you began at the end of summer. On my side of the earth anyways.

Are current events impacting your dopamine levels? Like I'm on this news forum, and even the Agnostics will ask from time to time, "is any of this stuff Biblical in nature?, or "are we in the end times?, or are we in the tribulation?

How many 2024 predictions have already failed?

Still a ways to go yet. But CJ Lovit has one for the Day of Atonement in October this year.


I think he's really talking about 2031, then subtracting 7 years for the start of the 70th week. He's more like a nowist than a futurist. Like your login name eclipse now. The future is now. At least with this one we won't have long to wait.

Peaceful Sabbath.



 
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How many 2024 predictions have already failed?
Absolutely none, as 2024 isn't over yet. Some have guessed actual dates, but no one does a Harold Camping!

The date I look at each year is the one the Prophet Haggai repeats 3 times. That is: Kislev 24. which falls on December 26th this year.
If some Prophesied things do happen soon, such as the Jews losing their leaders. Isaiah 3:1-7 and Micah 5:1, then the Islamic enemies may take the opportunity to try what they have openly promised to do: Wipe Israel off the map.
That will be their downfall; Psalms 83, Psalms 11:4-6, Jeremiah 49:35, and the world will never be the same again.
 
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Are current events impacting your dopamine levels? Like I'm on this news forum, and even the Agnostics will ask from time to time, "is any of this stuff Biblical in nature?, or "are we in the end times?, or are we in the tribulation?
Every generation seems to think so. Seriously - how soft are we in this generation that we think we're doing it tough compared to say the Black Death, or WW2?

But to answer their question - yes - we are in the end times. And have been for 2000 years and counting.
(Peter declared that the gospel events put us in the "Last Days" in Acts 2.)
 
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Absolutely none, as 2024 isn't over yet. Some have guessed actual dates, but no one does a Harold Camping!

The date I look at each year is the one the Prophet Haggai repeats 3 times. That is: Kislev 24. which falls on December 26th this year.
If some Prophesied things do happen soon, such as the Jews losing their leaders. Isaiah 3:1-7 and Micah 5:1, then the Islamic enemies may take the opportunity to try what they have openly promised to do: Wipe Israel off the map.
That will be their downfall; Psalms 83, Psalms 11:4-6, Jeremiah 49:35, and the world will never be the same again.
Oh boy. Micah 5 is partly about the actual Assyrians coming down and wiping out Israel - but Judah being protected. It's also building on the theme of a remnant when Judah finally falls - and how that remnant will filter out and be a blessing to the nations - but also act in judgement over their past crimes.

It is fulfilled (in eschatological tension) as Jesus is born. (Matthew 2 - Jesus being born in Bethlehem.) The eschatological tension is the fact that the future hope of the perfect Kingdom of God is not fully realised in this world yet - but is a process that unfolds with the growth of the church. But one day it will be. In the meantime - the remnant grows.
 
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But to answer their question - yes - we are in the end times. And have been for 2000 years and counting.
(Peter declared that the gospel events put us in the "Last Days" in Acts 2.)

The people on the news forum weren't asking about the "Last Days" in Acts 2. They aren't really Bible people. But I know what they're asking, I know what they meant. Peter was not talking about the end of the world, or the last days of Revelation, Peter was probably talking about something like the "Last Days" mentioned from the point of view of the OT Messianic Prophecies, and Day of the Lord Prophecies, which he was quoting from in Joel. We are in the days of the Messiah now, in the Gospel era. They talked about the translation meanings on Stack exchange.

In his commentary on Joel 2:30 (3:1), Rabbi David Kimchi (Radak) writes,
היה אחרי כן - כמו והיה באחרית הימים
which is translated as,
"And it came to pass afterwards" - like "and it came to pass in the last days."
In other words, Rabbi David Kimchi believed that the two phrases were synonymous.

And elsewhere, regarding the phrase "in the last days" (באחרית הימים) which occurs in several verses, including Isa. 2:2, Rabbi David Kimchi wrote,
"And it came to pass in the last days" - Every place where it is said "in the last days" - it is the days of the Messiah.
והיה באחרית הימים - כל מקום שנאמר באחרית הימים הוא ימות המשיח

"The Days of Messiah ="The Gospel era.

Peter was saying they were in the Gospel era, in the Days of Messiah.

The people on the news forum were asking about the Armageddon style of the end, when the frog like demons are sent out to gather the kings of the earth for that great battle of God Almighty. (That's not in Acts 2). Based on the context of current events, I knew they weren't asking about the destruction of Jerusalem in the 1st century. Lol.

The people on the news forum were asking about "the end" that Jesus was talking about in Matthew 24:14:

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.​

This can't be figured out from the Gospels alone, or from the Pauline Epistles, you need the Prophetic periods of time written in Daniel and Revelation.

Peaceful Sabbath.
 
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I joined Christian Forums initially in 2010. In the last 14 years I've seen predictions come and go over and over and over. If I include my time on other forums before CF I was part of, then add another decade to that--24 years and every prediction a failed one.

But the predictions keep coming.

And I don't think I've ever seen a single person come out and just admit they made a mistake. They either tuck tail and leave, or they act as though they never made the prediction, or they change the math and make a new prediction.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I joined Christian Forums initially in 2010. In the last 14 years I've seen predictions come and go over and over and over. If I include my time on other forums before CF I was part of, then add another decade to that--24 years and every prediction a failed one.
When I hover the over your bulb it says October 2, 2011. Mine says January 10, 2014. I only joined to talk on a blood moon thread. It was busier here back then. In 2013 I joined Joel's Trumpet and Worthy and was telling people to get holy fast. Because of Rev. 3:10 I thought we had to meet specific requirements for some time duration prior to the start of the end times. I think the time for that is past. Let the wicked be wicked, and let the righteous continue in their righteousness.
And I don't think I've ever seen a single person come out and just admit they made a mistake. They either tuck tail and leave, or they act as though they never made the prediction, or they change the math and make a new prediction.
My math has not changed. My goal posts can't be moved. Mine is still the interplanner number. Remember him? There's a new guy, a Doctor of engineering, who's making a bunch of nice videos about moving the goal posts, from the same interplanner number, 2 years into the future. He's a nice guy. I can tell he loves the Lord. And I can see it in his eyes that he believes he is right. He's using stone plaques from construction projects from the Old City of Jerusalem with dates on them two years latter than mine.

There's always two things happening at the same time now in the end times. There's a prophecy, and then the prophetic time period associated with it. I make the mistake of not being able to identify what the prophecy is before it happens. Like who are the Two Witnesses, or the scorpion creatures that sting the men who have taken the mark of the beast, or the burning mountain cast into the sea. Because of overconfidence in the timing, it seems to me to be much easier to find the prophetic time periods where those prophecies will appear, I risk saying we will see them in 2018, or in the springtime of 2022. Once you find the five months of Revelation 9, then you can be sure what the event was. You can only usually figure out the prophecy, after it's time period is completed. Even the Old Time Jews had trouble recognizing their Messiah, even after He said early in Mark that the "time", (7 and 62), had been fulfilled . They had too many preconceptions of the prophecy, and what their Messiah would be.

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Price action makes for market commentary. Here we can trade the charts, do not trade a story. There's too many stories out there. Like how the pilot flies by instrumentation, when poor visibility won't allow for GFR. We see through the glass dimly. Our charts, our gauges, are in the 18 prophetic time periods found in Daniel and Revelation. First find the 7 and 62 weeks, then you'll know when to be looking for His star in the east. Find the five months of Revelation 9, and you'll find the guys asking for death, for the penalty for sin is death, but death did flee from them. And find the 1260 days of Revelation 11, and you'll know that the Two Witnesses were not Moses and Elijah.

- Dave
Peaceful Sabbath.
 
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I joined Christian Forums initially in 2010. In the last 14 years I've seen predictions come and go over and over and over. If I include my time on other forums before CF I was part of, then add another decade to that--24 years and every prediction a failed one.

But the predictions keep coming.

And I don't think I've ever seen a single person come out and just admit they made a mistake. They either tuck tail and leave, or they act as though they never made the prediction, or they change the math and make a new prediction.

-CryptoLutheran
Yes, you are right, they are the TAIL of the red Dragon working in heaven(Ephesians 1:3-8 combined with Revelation 12:3-4:-->3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8); and behold a great red dragon, having 7 heads and 10 horns, and 7 crowns upon his (7) heads. 4 And his TAIL drew the third part of the stars of heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8), and did cast them to the earth. This description is about the body of the red dragon, i.e the dead Churches and sects under the Power of the dragon-Revelation 13:2- , divided in three parts, the TAIL is one of them, that is very terrible.

Why the TAIL is very terrible? Because by the TAIL, the red Dragon's TAIL "drew the third part of the STARS of heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8 combined with Daniel 12:3), and did cast them to the earth. Who spiritually represents the TAIL of the dragon? Isaiah 9:15-16 reveals as follow:
15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that TEACHES LIES, he is the TAIL .
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.
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The 7 heads of the dragon are 7 regions of the Earth spiritually ruled by the Beast of the sea: sea=waters=peoples, and NATIONS, and multitudes of all tongues-Revelation 17:15- , ruled mainly by the Church that is the main partner of the dragon in whole Earth-the Roman Catholic Church established in Europe, and Asia, Africa, Oceania, North America, Central America and South America-7 regions/continents of the Earth. And one of the 7 heads back-cited will be NOW, even NOW, from NOW on, wounded to DEATH, in my vision it is South America.

The War is against 3 unclean spirits like frogs(frogs, why frogs?
) come out of the mouth of the dragon(the Jewish Beast of the earth-Revelation 13:11), and out of the mouth of the Beast(the MAN Beast of the sea), and out of the mouth of the false prophet(the TAIL of the Dragon). It's the BODY of the red Dragon as a whole;Revelation 12:3-4-> 3...there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having 7 heads(7 heads are the main partner of the dragon-that is the Papacy and his RCC)-, and 10 horns (Israel-10 tribes, the clay of Nebuchadnezzar's statue- feet and 10 toes), and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his TAIL (all dead evangelical churches and their fallen angels, including the modern evngelical movement gospel) drew the third part of the STARS of heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8), and did cast them to the earth...

Be careful with the red Dragon, and get ready - there will be WAR from now on.

 
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Oh boy. Micah 5 is partly about the actual Assyrians coming down and wiping out Israel - but Judah being protected. It's also building on the theme of a remnant when Judah finally falls - and how that remnant will filter out and be a blessing to the nations - but also act in judgement over their past crimes.

It is fulfilled (in eschatological tension) as Jesus is born. (Matthew 2 - Jesus being born in Bethlehem.) The eschatological tension is the fact that the future hope of the perfect Kingdom of God is not fully realised in this world yet - but is a process that unfolds with the growth of the church. But one day it will be. In the meantime - the remnant grows.
I only mentioned Micah 5:1. Which ruler of Israel was struck in the face? Not Jesus, as He was not their ruler yet.

Yes; one day the Kingdom will physically come, but you seem to dismiss any events that lead up to it. You throw out a lot of scripture that remains unfulfilled.
 
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Price action makes for market commentary. Here we can trade the charts, do not trade a story. There's too many stories out there. Like how the pilot flies by instrumentation, when poor visibility won't allow for GFR.

The most imprtant is to look to the signs my Lord JESUS revealed to happen: Matthew 24:
There are interesting events in the sermon of JESUS described in Matthew 24

1st EVENT-FIRST JESUS PROPHESIED: DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE - DEN OF THIEVES

1- When our Lord came out from the Temple, the disciples came to Him for to shew Him the buildings of the Temple. (Certainty they were exultant and excited and talked with the Lord of the greatness and beauty of the Temple )
2- And JESUS said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
See, the testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. What JESUS said above was LITERALLY fulfilled in the year 70AD, around 40 years after His ascension. There should never again be built another similar man-made Temple, or the old Temple-the den of the thieves- never came to be rebuilt as it had been before.
Notice that concerning the destruction of the Temple", it has nothing to do with Mount Olives; Mount Olives has to do only with the destruction of the World of Devil in the current time, now, even now, from now on. FIRST, the nation of Israel, included the Temple,the den of thieves, were destroyed. And nation of Israel was destroyed from 70 to 1948, 1878 years of severe punishments and curses -Deuteronomy 28:15-68- and the Temple -the den of thieves- there should never again be built another. The father of the Jews-John 8:44- will be cast down into the bottomless pit, that he should deceive the nations no more-Revelation 20:1-4.

- 2nd EVENT- DESTRUCTION OF THE DEVIL's WORLD & SIGNS OF JESUS's COMING
3 And JESUS sat upon the mount of Olives. The disciples came unto Him privately, saying: Tell us, when shall these things be?
1- What shall be the sign of thy coming?
2- And of the END of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and gave a LIST of signs unto them, saying the things that AT FIRST will happen:

(1) Take heed that no man deceive you;
(2) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (John 5:43-48); and shall deceive many;
(3) And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet;
(4) For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom;
(5) and there shall be famines;
(6) and pestilences;
(7) and earthquakes, in divers places;
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

JESUS continued warning: All these are the beginning of sorrows . At first, all these things MUST come to pass, but the END is not yet.<--> In fact, it is a PRE-TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD.
By the way, when the END will be? It's easy to know by the Word of GOD:
1Corinthians 15:24.
JESUS continued prophesying and warning His people -
His Church- about the signs of His coming, and of the END of the WORLD of Devil even from now on, even in this current time, saying what shall happen with His people in prolongation of this current period of sorrows:
(1) they shall deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you;
(2) and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake;
(3) then shall many be offended;
(4) and shall betray one another;
(5) and shall hate one another.
(6) many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(7) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

The promise of our Lord JESUS

He that shall endure unto the END of the world, the same shall be saved, the gospel of the Kingdom of GOD-Revelation 11:15- shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all NATIONS;

Then shall the END come;
So, when ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place-JERUSALEM-, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
When shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.-(This terrible event of the great tribulation will happen because Michael will stand up, and then Michael shall cause the great tribulation in whole Earth: Example: Genesis 19:12-14 combined with Daniel 12:1-,
and except these days (these current days) should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake these days shall be shortened.
So, if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ-John 5:43-47
-, or there, BELIEVE NOT, for there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets(false preachers of the Word of GOD) , and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (PERILOUS TIMES-Be careful or else get ready)

JESUS warned: Behold, I have told you before - Matthew 24:25.

The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? Be careful or else get ready.
 
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I think he's really talking about 2031, then subtracting 7 years for the start of the 70th week. He's more like a nowist than a futurist. Like your login name eclipse now. The future is now. At least with this one we won't have long to wait.
The beginning of the last week of years , week 70th Daniel 9:27, it should start only after the election of the next and last Pope, and the manifestation of the false messiah, a false lamb(John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11) not before, anyway these events shouldn't take long, then there will be TWO demonic religious Beasts reigning , one in Rome -Catholicism- and another in Israel/Jerusalem-Judaism-, the great city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

Get ready
 
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I see what you are saying - that there could be room to smuggle in 2 audiences. But there isn't. Jesus specifically says:

"36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen"

Again - if the 'mark of the beast' arrived - or any of a dozen other famous futurist 'predictions' from Revelation were to happen - many non-Christians I know would KNOW what it meant.
Why do you call me a futurist?

Is it because I believe Jesus will come in the future or is it because I believe what Jesus said would take place before his coming is future?
 
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The beginning of the last week of years , week 70th Daniel 9:27, it should start only after the election of the next and last Pope, and the manifestation of the false messiah, a false lamb(John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11) not before, anyway these events shouldn't take long, then there will be TWO demonic religious Beasts reigning , one in Rome -Catholicism- and another in Israel/Jerusalem-Judaism-, the great city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.
Probably not a bad idea to keep an eye on that Rope a Pope deal. But I still think the 70 week started already, and we're in it. And the composite beast and the Antichrist were already just here. Their 42 months of authority ran out around the time Roe/Wade was overturned. That was one of their crowning achievements. The three froglike demons are already out gathering the kings of the earth for that great battle of God Almighty.

So I tend to think the game is afoot old boy. I think the prophetic time periods are paining us into a corner.
Get ready
I'm on red alert.
Steady as she goes #1.
 
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1- When our Lord came out from the Temple, the disciples came to Him for to shew Him the buildings of the Temple. (Certainty they were exultant and excited and talked with the Lord of the greatness and beauty of the Temple )
2- And JESUS said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
See, the testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. What JESUS said above was LITERALLY fulfilled in the year 70AD, around 40 years after His ascension.
Certainty the disciples were delighted and amazed and they talked with the Lord of the greatness and beauty of the Temple, notwithstanding JESUS said: See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here ONE stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Certainty Jesus left His disciples disappointed with his answer, evidently.
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But wait, the same thing happens today with the greatness and beauty of the current world of the Devil (Matthew 4:8-9) with its gigantic and monumental structures, however, there shall not be left here any structure -political, economic, religious, social, military, cultural, that shall not be thrown down, something like "an building implosion" or even like the fall of the WTC-World Trade Center in 2001, after violent hit of two planes. It was very very terrible, imaginable, but what does it say of the wordly colapse previously announced by the Word of GOD to happen from now on, day by day, and everything be destroyed now in the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium? 2 Peter 3:7and10-12 combined with Matthew 24: 22 and Revelation 11:15-18, take a look.

Get ready, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing.


 
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The people on the news forum weren't asking about the "Last Days" in Acts 2. They aren't really Bible people. But I know what they're asking, I know what they meant. Peter was not talking about the end of the world, or the last days of Revelation, Peter was probably talking about something like the "Last Days" mentioned from the point of view of the OT Messianic Prophecies, and Day of the Lord Prophecies, which he was quoting from in Joel. We are in the days of the Messiah now, in the Gospel era. They talked about the translation meanings on Stack exchange.

In his commentary on Joel 2:30 (3:1), Rabbi David Kimchi (Radak) writes,

which is translated as,

In other words, Rabbi David Kimchi believed that the two phrases were synonymous.

And elsewhere, regarding the phrase "in the last days" (באחרית הימים) which occurs in several verses, including Isa. 2:2, Rabbi David Kimchi wrote,


"The Days of Messiah ="The Gospel era.

Peter was saying they were in the Gospel era, in the Days of Messiah.
Which is the same thing as the Last Days - I agree.
In which Jesus could return at any moment.
 
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Why do you call me a futurist?

Is it because I believe Jesus will come in the future or is it because I believe what Jesus said would take place before his coming is future?
Because you think there is still more prophecy to be fulfilled in the future.
Because you think Revelation is set 'in the future'.
Revelation is to John's generation, about John's generation - and therefore meaningful to all Christians across the last 2000 years precisely because John wrote it to his generation! It teaches us how to think theologically about nature in chaos and natural disasters, tyrants mocking God and persecuting Christians, and how to stay patiently trusting in the Lord - even to persecution and execution - while we wait on the gospel PROMISE that he will return.

That is - I don't think there's a single prophecy left to be fulfilled. They were all fulfilled in Jesus death and resurrection - but in 'eschatological tension' - also called Inaugurated Eschatology. https://www.theopedia.com/inaugurated-eschatology

The only thing remaining is Judgement Day - which will happen as a complete surprise, like the days of Noah (Matt 24) - with everyone saying “Peace, peace” and making plans for the future. Marrying. Partying. And then sudden destruction! The Lord Returns on Judgement Day! As the Reformation Study Bible says of Matt: “24:36 no one knows. This remains true, and attempts to predict the time of the end are effectively stopped by it.” Matt 24:36 - ESV Reformation Study Bible - Bible Gateway

Just to make sure we get the point - Jesus follows up with some parables that spill over into Matt 24. Jesus will return like:-
* the days of Noah,
* a thief in the night,
* a Master who catches the wicked servant in his guilt and executes him;
* a Bridegroom who arrives to the banquet hall and locks out the maidens who were not prepared;
* a wealthy investor who expects a return but takes all the gold from the lazy investor,
* then the final parable is how Jesus sudden and utterly unpredictable return will be as a Judge on his mighty throne and with his angels. It’s Judgement Day for all eternity. Do not go through extra tribulations or 1000 years - do not collect $200.

Indeed, Paul writes in 1 Thess 5 that we cannot know about dates and times because the Lord said he would return like a thief in the night. What are we to do instead? We are to put on “faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet” - and live as people of the day.
 
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