How Ladies can be a Bishop?

[Albion]

But why can women teach teens and children but not men? What is the reason for that - are men so sensitive that they can't handle female instruction?
Ringo

To whom are you addressing your question?

 

[wordsoflife]

Yes. That's exactly why. It is one of a thousand ways in which women are expected to alter their behavior in order to assuage and coddle psychological shortcomings of men. Like how men's inability to control their imaginations means women have to change the way they dress, and how men's general laziness when it comes to house work and child care means women have to change the intensity with which they pursue their careers.

Propping you guys up is basically women's half-time unpaid job.

Somebody has a chip on their shoulder.

 

[wordsoflife]

Please show me exactly where it says abortion is muder.

This thread is not about abortion so I will refrain from allowing your derailment.

 

[Bethesda]

I heard that in the world of Anglicans no women clergy allowed, but gay clergy is ok. I bet that causes a stir in the ranks.

The CofE has ordained women in it. Some people out of conscience won't take communion from them, which is fair enough if thats their belief (but then there are others going up and then turning away if a women serves them, which if thats right and not a misunderstanding by me of what was said, seems to be going out of the way to be obnoxious - but then are people who apparently say to the Vicar etc "I didn't like your sermon today" "I didn't enjoy the service" or worse so clearly there are some people who see obnoxiousness as a virtue)

 

[Bethesda]

I say, no.

I am a woman, and I don't approve of women becoming the head church pastors, ministers, etc.

I used to approve it years ago with anger and stress, until I realized that what I was doing was useless. It wasn't about power and/or dominance within the church in negative light, although many people seem to see it that way.

We are all equal in God's eyes, but God chose the function of the church symbolically and physically.

A woman can teach children, teens, and other women, but in church, she should not try to teach a man. She can take her husband outside and advise him and ask him to advise others, but she should not be vocal in the church.

What Does It Mean Not to Teach or Have Authority Over Men 1 Timothy 2:11-15 | Bible.org - Worlds Largest Bible Study Site

So she can't be a missionary unless there is also a male to speak to the men? What about being a reader in church?

 

[Ringo84]

To whom are you addressing your question?

Jupiter Drops and anyone else who believes that women teaching women/teenagers/children is OK, but teaching men is somehow verboten.
Ringo

 

[Albion]

Jupiter Drops and anyone else who believes that women teaching women/teenagers/children is OK, but teaching men is somehow verboten.
Ringo

That would exclude me, then, but in order to to deter any further misunderstanding, I'll answer anyway. Women can indeed teach men. Any layperson can teach a Bible class or Sunday School, for instance. The difference enters in with preaching the Gospel during corporate worship because that is part of the priestly office.

 

[TheDag]

That would exclude me, then, but in order to to deter any further misunderstanding, I'll answer anyway. Women can indeed teach men. Any layperson can teach a Bible class or Sunday School, for instance. The difference enters in with preaching the Gospel during corporate worship because that is part of the priestly office.

So kids aren't welcome to come to God in your opinion. interesting. i know you will claim that is not what you said but as soon as you claim sunday school is not part of church that is in effect what you are saying. preaching the gospel is everyones job. also remember context. at the time of writing of the bible there was no sunday school. It still does not counter the instruction for women to keep quiet.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree on female apostles seem you have no desire to post evidence you have to say it is a false claim.

 

[Ringo84]

The difference enters in with preaching the Gospel during corporate worship because that is part of the priestly office.

No, it doesn't exclude you, Albion; the question was for anyone espousing that position.

Simply standing in front of men and preaching is a priestly office?
Ringo

 

[Albion]

So kids aren't welcome to come to God in your opinion.

Certainly they are.

i know you will claim that is not what you said

But you can't let accuracy trouble you, right?

but but as soon as you claim sunday school is not part of church that is in effect what you are saying

I didn't say that either, but as you've noted already, you don't mind putting words into my mouth if it serves your purpose.

preaching the gospel is everyones job.

Yeh, I'd agree with that.

at the time of writing of the bible there was no sunday school. It still does not counter the instruction for women to keep quiet.

You're entitled to your own religion. All I was doing was answering the question from the perspective of the historic church and the majority of Christians because the inquirer seemed to want to know what that POV was.

 

[Albion]

No, it doesn't exclude you, Albion; the question was for anyone espousing that position.

I don't espouse that opinion. Try paying attention to what has been explained already.

 

[Ringo84]

Great!

So if teaching the gospel is everyone's job, why exclude women?
Ringo

 

[Albion]

Great!

So if teaching the gospel is everyone's job, why exclude women?
Ringo

I don't exclude women from teaching the Gospel. More important, the historic church has never excluded women from teaching the Gospel.

 

[Ringo84]

Then what's the problem with women preaching or holding positions of authority in the church?
Ringo

 

[Creech]

I think women should be allowed but I would prefer a man.

 

[Albion]

Then what's the problem with women preaching or holding positions of authority in the church?
Ringo

Read posts 116, 127, and 131 where this is answered.

 

[Ringo84]

That doesn't answer my question, as it seems like a distinction without a difference.

Women can teach men and preach....just not during worship, because apparently, that's too much for the delicate souls of some men to take.
Ringo

 

[Ringo84]

Inequality that doesn't make sense should be questioned wherever it is found.
Ringo

 

[Yeshwa Younis]

I am thankful to all forum members For participation of this important issue.

 

[Cjwinnit]

I am thankful to all forum members For participation of this important issue.

Hope it was helpful.

Salam