how koran knew that?

[king2015]

""koran says that limbs format before muscles ?
and science discovered this!!""

i quote this from a muslim
so how koran knew it ?

 

[Al T]

You have to remember that people knew 'stuff' before modern science came along, so why couldn't there be a reference in there?
In the Book of Job there's also some fairly accurate scientific principles we see in our world everyday.
In regards to the example you give, well it makes logical sense for the bones to come first doesn't it and I'm no scientist?
The natural world makes me appreciate the greatness of God even more.

 

[quatona]

""koran says that limbs format before muscles ?
and science discovered this!!""

i quote this from a muslim
so how koran knew it ?

"Knew"?

 

[Al T]

I'm guessing that the OP has a first language other than English.

PS quatona - really like your signature, but then I am a fan of Rumi...

 

[quatona]

PS quatona - really like your signature, but then I am a fan of Rumi...

Hey,
to be honest, I don´t know much about and of Rumi. I came across this quote in the context of Non-Violent Communication, and it seems to sum up the basics of the NVC approach quite nicely.

 

[Al T]

Rumi was a poet (incredible popular in Afghanistan) and Sufi mystic.

You can find more quotes at http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/875661.Rumi

Some are even better!

 

[quatona]

Rumi was a poet (incredible popular in Afghanistan) and Sufi mystic.

That´s the part I knew already (but not much more).

You can find more quotes at http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/875661.Rumi

Thank you.

 

[Al T]

Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
there is a field. I'll meet you there.

When the soul lies down in that grass,
the world is too full to talk about.
Ideas, language, even the phrase each other
doesn't make any sense.

This is an extract from The Essential Rumi, which I would recommend if you get a chance. I can absolutely see how it would fit into non-violent communication...

 

[OldWiseGuy]

""koran says that limbs format before muscles ?
and science discovered this!!""

i quote this from a muslim
so how koran knew it ?

Easy. Mohammed read Ezekiel 37.

7 "So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.

8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above ............................"

 

[Espy]

You have to remember that people knew 'stuff' before modern science came along, so why couldn't there be a reference in there?
In the Book of Job there's also some fairly accurate scientific principles we see in our world everyday.
In regards to the example you give, well it makes logical sense for the bones to come first doesn't it and I'm no scientist?
The natural world makes me appreciate the greatness of God even more.

Logical sense eh? There are parts of our bodies that have muscle without bone.

 

[Espy]

Easy. Mohammed read Ezekiel 37.

7 "So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.

8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above ............................"

What part of that scripture talks about the muscles specifically? The Quran likely got its science from Hindu and Greek scientists.

 

[Wryetui]

The same Qur'an that teaches that sperm comes from the ribs?

"Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted-Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs," (Qur'an 86:5-7).

 

[OldWiseGuy]

What part of that scripture talks about the muscles specifically? The Quran likely got its science from Hindu and Greek scientists.

The "sinews and flesh" are the muscles.

 

[Al T]

Logical sense eh? There are parts of our bodies that have muscle without bone.

Agreed, but then look at the context of the OP and you'll see that they were referring to bone being covered in muscle.

 

[Oafman]

The same Qur'an that teaches that sperm comes from the ribs?

"Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted-Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs," (Qur'an 86:5-7).

Almost as ridiculous as women being created from a man's rib.

As for the OP, the Koran guessed. If you guess enough things you'll get some right. I imagine that for every guess it got right, it got hundreds wrong.

 

[Wryetui]

Almost as ridiculous as women being created from a man's rib.

As for the OP, the Koran guessed. If you guess enough things you'll get some right. I imagine that for every guess it got right, it got hundreds wrong.

Woman are not "created" from man's ribs, but only Eva was created from Adam's rib. This has a deep theological meaning, as woman being men's helpers, men's support, because they came from man's body, they were one and so does marriage, uniting the couple in one. Besides that, God can do everything, so if He wants to create Eva from Adam's rib He does.

 

[Oafman]

Woman are not "created" from man's ribs, but only Eva was created from Adam's rib. This has a deep theological meaning, as woman being men's helpers, men's support, because they came from man's body, they were one and so does marriage, uniting the couple in one. Besides that, God can do everything, so if He wants to create Eva from Adam's rib He does.

Ah, magic and mysterious ways?

A Muslim would assert that Allah could do anything, so could have made sperm originally come from ribs. What makes them wrong and you right? If you can't provide a sufficiently convincing answer, I will continue to believe that you're both wrong.

 

[Wryetui]

God revealed that information to us, God Himself, so I prefer to trust God. Muhammad received that information through "the archangel Gabriel" but he was being either inventing it (most likely, copying things from the Bible or inventing them himself showing His ignorance with these verses) or being demonic deceived into it.

Of course this is not an "enough answer" for you, but it's enough for me, it's the biblical and christian point of view, because he who was eyes, can see.

 

[Oafman]

God revealed that information to us, God Himself, so I prefer to trust God. Muhammad received that information through "the archangel Gabriel" but he was being either inventing it (most likely, copying things from the Bible or inventing them himself showing His ignorance with these verses) or being demonic deceived into it.

God personally wrote sections of the bible?

Of course this is not an "enough answer" for you, but it's enough for me, it's the biblical and christian point of view, because he who was eyes, can see.

I'm fortunate to have very well functioning eyes. So how come I 'can't see'?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Ah, magic and mysterious ways?

A Muslim would assert that Allah could do anything, so could have made sperm originally come from ribs. What makes them wrong and you right? If you can't provide a sufficiently convincing answer, I will continue to believe that you're both wrong.

There might be something to this, although it is a stretch.

http://www.islamicboard.com/health-and-science/134286406-quran-86-5-7-23-14-a.html