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I would agree.If the "wrongness" of killing your neighbor unprovoked is contingent on God's say-so, then is it really intrinsically wrong?
Seems not.
I have a different name for Him: Nature.Okay, let’s go with that. You are claiming theistic evolution. That means God did it. And that means it’s not natural. It’s God’s work.
Sorry noApparently this applies to you. You don’t seem to be able to engage with what I’ve been saying.
How do you know that his name?I have a different name for Him: Nature.
Because I don’t really feel like talking past you.Sorry no
I do engage with what you what you are saying but that is beside the point
I did actually realize that I was talking past you
Why can't you do the same.
Did you really think I thought He has spoken to people? Please...I'm an atheist. I know that when people say that God has guided them then they are wrong. So you are missing the point being made by a country mile. It's what they BELIEVE they have been told. If they BELIEVE He has commanded them to do something. That's what we are talking about. What that belief might cause them to do.I doubt it for the same reasons that other intelligent people doubt it, Bradskii. Mainly because I've lived life---which also includes "talking with people," and I've studied to damned much.
wowBecause I don’t really feel like talking past you.
What definitions have I used?wow
I have actually been engaging with you
I have pointing out you have been using the wrong definitions , because for some reason you
could not work out this yourself
At least you realize talking past people is silly, I don't know how to make you realize the obvious fact that is all that you do
I doubt that.It was in a book I read. Well, very many books actually.
???What definitions have I used?
I doubt the previous claim you made.You doubt I have read books that explain the natural process of how we came to be? That's an odd thing to say...
You have to show how I’ve used it, and how it’s incorrect.???
I already told you need to use youtube to learn the definition of "Objective morality"
Did you really think I thought He has spoken to people? Please...I'm an atheist. I know that when people say that God has guided them then they are wrong. So you are missing the point being made by a country mile. It's what they BELIEVE they have been told. If they BELIEVE He has commanded them to do something. That's what we are talking about. What that belief might cause them to do.
hmm, would be faster to come up with a new example.You have to show how I’ve used it, and how it’s incorrect.
Yes; I said you should answer the guy you was talking to. What does that have to do with anything?
You are doing your best to avoid the point I am making. It's not what anyone can do to solve any problems that someone might have with an incorrect belief. Notwithstanding that it is not your job to decide when someone has misinterpreted what they consider to be divine guidance. It's that if they truly believe that they have had instructions from God and that God is always right, then it can lead to any act being committed. In His name.Of course I know you don't really think that God speaks to people: and I already know all too well that you're an atheist. Unlike you, I've paid attention.
And you're still worried about what some solipsistic, eisegetical "beliefs" might cause people to do. We had this conversation a while back. I disagreed with you then, and I'll still disagree with you now. All that has to happen is for people to grasp the essence of Hermeneutics and proper exegesis and that will solve a lot of problems where the Bible is concerned. It won't solve all of the problems, obviously, but it will render impotent some of their misdirected interpretations which impel their actions, even political ones.
That’s not the claim you made.You doubt I have read books that explain the natural process of how we came to be? That's an odd thing to say...
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