Our concept of justice says that a person must account for their own sin.
No, your own personal belief on justice says that. JGG says a person must account for their own sin with no substitutions. God says that a perfect sacrifice may be killed to pay for one's sin, in place of themselves. He accepts that sacrifice as accounting for your sin. Society has varying views of justice, but they are not what's going to get us back to God.
It's not how I define it, it's how our society defines it. Our societal concept of justice is very different.
No, that's how you define it. Depending which society you're in over the world, justice can be dealt in different ways. Doesn't change the fact it is not God's justice. That's what matters when it comes to our sins against him. God lets the established governments rule with their laws, but when your life is over you're not going to face the US courts or whichever country you are from. You're going to face God himself.
So justice, from the Christian point of view is that Christians (being special) should not be punished for any crime or sin in our society? That's Real Justice?
You can keep spinning it however you want to. There is no condemnation in Jesus Christ. His death paid the price of sin once and for all. We are reconciled back to God and justified. God looks at us and sees us as innocent. The only way we are "special" compared to anyone else is that we chose to faithe in Christ as Lord.
It isn't a matter of defining it wrong. This is the method of justice we have developed, and the title we've given it. God may have meant for a cow to be named a "toaster" but we call them cows. When I say cow, you know I mean cow, and when I say toaster you know I mean toaster. When I say justice, we refer to what we call justice. God can have his own "justice" but we shouldn't call it that.
This is the second ignorant statement of the week. God does not give justice a different name, the terminology remains but the definition differs between man and God. Man may say an eye for an eye, but God allows a sacrifice to be made in place of the eye. That's justified whether you like it or not.
A sin is first and foremost against God, and God is the ultimate Judge. He said "Vengeance is mine. I will repay." But it sounds like you would rather take things into your own hands then rely on God to repay. That's your choice buddy. The ironic part is by trying to take retribution into your own hands you are going to find yourself at the end of God's retribution. And it won't be pretty.
Again. Do you agree with a justice system where Christians should never be punished for any crime they commit? Is that justice?
I agree with God's justice system where those who faithe in Jesus are not condemned to hell, but have salvation through Christ's blood. In this world, let the laws of the courts of this world judge them as they will. They can handle judgement in this life, God has the ultimate judgement in eternity.
But why? How is God just in a way we can comprehend? You are merely asserting and making claims with no reasoning except "because I say so."
If you are having trouble comprehending Jesus' sacrifice there is plenty of sources and information available on the internet, and in libraries. I already gave you my reasoning, if that's not enough for you then feel free to do some research, if the answer is that important to you.
Again, we agree in a perfect justice system, only non-Christians would be punished for crimes?
No. Justice on earth differs from justice for eternity. God has allowed us to establish laws for this world. We follow those laws. In eternity God has the final judgement of our fate.
Wait. I'll come back to this.
But you just made a statement to Christian superiority:
"[Christians] would not be as susceptible to corruption and evil, because they are not suiting their selfish or power-hungry purposes."
You're saying that non-Christians are more susceptible to corruption and evil, because they are selfish and power hungry? If non-Christians are evil, selfish and power hungry, and Christians are...better than them...isn't it safe to say that Christians take themselves as superior?
No. I am saying Christians who faithe in Jesus for guidance instead of relying on their own sinful nature are not as susceptible to selfish or power hungry purposes like a non-believer would be. Either one can still fall to temptation, but at least the Christian may seek guidance from the Lord. It is always better to seek guidance from God first instead of doing everything with your own power and knowledge. Therefore Christians are not "superior", rather we rely on Jesus for guidance and wisdom, and in our own power we are no different than anyone else. As Paul said, "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." You can too JGG. You have no less opportunities than Paul, it's just as available to you as it is to everyone else.
Did you not also say earlier that Christians are better equipped to be lawyers and judges because they have integrity? Does that not imply that non-Christians don't have integrity?
I understand now why you take God as just. The superior people are not accountable for their actions, the inferior ones are.
No. If you honestly believe I am saying non-Christians cannot have integrity then I question your reasoning abilities. More likely you are twisting my words. The implication is not that non-Christians don't have integrity. The implication is that non-Christians, by rejecting God's greater guidance and wisdom, are more likely to leave integrity behind to pursue selfish desires.
Another word-twisting. Again, if you want to call Christians "superior" because they choose to faithe in Jesus and follow him, thus receiving salvation and reconciliation to God, that's your choice. I wouldn't call it superior at all, because it's an opportunity available to everyone. Jesus died for all our sins. I would say we made the wiser choice while anyone who turned away from God made a foolish choice, especially when you spend your whole life knowing about Jesus and his sacrifice, yet refusing to repent.
Those who turn back to Christ and recognize Him as Lord and savior of all are not held accountable for their actions, because they are made righteous by Jesus, who paid the price for us. Those who rebel and hate Christ are held accountable, because they are evil and reject Christ's righteousness for their own. And what did God say about our righteousness? It's nothing but filthy rags.
