How I Regard Israel Today

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Deroy Murdock: What if Gaza were San Diego instead? | New Hampshire Columns
TO UNDERSTAND why Israel fights in the Gaza Strip, try this thought experiment:

Imagine that Mexicans loudly and violently demand that America vacate the territory that Mexico previously controlled in the U.S. Southwest. To make their case, Mexican revanchists brutally attack American diplomatic posts, assassinate U.S. officials, and even kidnap and kill American athletes at the summer Olympics. Despite such bloodshed, these Mexicans gain supporters among anti-American governments and elites worldwide.

Caving into this pressure, America gives the Mexicans San Diego. Dubbed “Land for Peace,” Washington’s concession would let Mexicans manage that city and show how they might govern if granted a “right of return” on even larger, previously Mexican lands.

While most Americans leave San Diego quietly, the U.S. military ejects holdouts from their property and removes them just before the Mexicans move in.

San Diego’s Mexican citizens soon reject the comparatively tame Institutional Revolutionary Party and elect leaders from the radical Zapatista Army of National Liberation. As its recent communiqué declares: “The anti-capitalist struggle below and to the left continues.”

Before long, the Zapatistas start firing rockets into surrounding areas. Elsewhere in San Diego County, Orange County, and even Long Beach, Americans repeatedly dive into bomb shelters. In the nine years since the U.S. evacuation, about 9,600 missiles soar from San Diego and plunge menacingly into adjacent communities, spreading terror and death.

The Zapatistas also dig 23 tunnels into nearby neighborhoods. They emerge from them — often disguised as U.S. GIs — and shoot Americans.

Other tunnels help the Zapatistas receive longer-range, deadlier rockets from their allies in Cuba. After one such weapon blasts a suburban street just a mile from Los Angeles International Airport, numerous foreign airlines cancel flights into LAX. For two days, Great Britain’s Civil Aviation Authority ordered its carriers to avoid LAX, thus isolating southern California.

Fed up, America finally rolls into San Diego, to destroy the Zapatista launch sites. U.S. forces try to limit civilian casualties — often dropping leaflets before air strikes, so innocent men, women, and children can escape imminent strikes.

Alas, these precautions frequently fail, since the Zapatistas operate among civilians, hide missiles in grade schools, and catapult explosives from deep inside residential neighborhoods. The cynical Zapatistas understand that blending among regular folks lets them conduct their carnage from behind human shields. This deters U.S. operations and, when America does press forward, pro-Zapatista journalists eagerly showcase the unintended and unfortunate human consequences of American self-defense. Although the Zapatistas’ tactics literally are war crimes, the U.S. always gets blamed — as Americans wearily grow to expect.

Still, Americans support their soldiers, even as those abroad denounce the USA, vandalize American property overseas, and burn the Stars and Stripes, for good measure. Regular Americans recognize that the only thing uglier than the mess in San Diego is to stand around and wait for Zapatista rockets to crater LAX’s runways and convert law-abiding southern Californians into body parts.

While this scenario is an imperfect analogy, it approximates what Israel has endured since 2007, thanks to Hamas — the homicidal, rabidly anti-Semitic, militant-Islamic terrorists who misrule Gaza. As its charter clearly states, “Hamas is one of the links in the Chain of Jihad in the confrontation with the Zionist invasion.” It also declares explicitly, “Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise, whatever time it might take…The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: ‘0 Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me. Come on and kill him!’”

To implement its execrable vision, Hamas uses Gaza’s playgrounds, schoolyards, hospitals, and even mosques to launch its deadly, Jew-killing missiles. This month alone, Hamas has lobbed 2,100 such weapons.

An immediate Israeli cease-fire in Gaza would resemble a surgeon extracting just half of a tumor. Thus, Israel must soldier on until the cancer of Hamas is excised and dumped into history’s medical-waste bin.


Good work.
 
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Deroy Murdock: What if Gaza were San Diego instead? | New Hampshire Columns
TO UNDERSTAND why Israel fights in the Gaza Strip, try this thought experiment:

Imagine that Mexicans loudly and violently demand that America vacate the territory that Mexico previously controlled in the U.S. Southwest. To make their case, Mexican revanchists brutally attack American diplomatic posts, assassinate U.S. officials, and even kidnap and kill American athletes at the summer Olympics. Despite such bloodshed, these Mexicans gain supporters among anti-American governments and elites worldwide.

Caving into this pressure, America gives the Mexicans San Diego. Dubbed “Land for Peace,” Washington’s concession would let Mexicans manage that city and show how they might govern if granted a “right of return” on even larger, previously Mexican lands.

While most Americans leave San Diego quietly, the U.S. military ejects holdouts from their property and removes them just before the Mexicans move in.

San Diego’s Mexican citizens soon reject the comparatively tame Institutional Revolutionary Party and elect leaders from the radical Zapatista Army of National Liberation. As its recent communiqué declares: “The anti-capitalist struggle below and to the left continues.”

Before long, the Zapatistas start firing rockets into surrounding areas. Elsewhere in San Diego County, Orange County, and even Long Beach, Americans repeatedly dive into bomb shelters. In the nine years since the U.S. evacuation, about 9,600 missiles soar from San Diego and plunge menacingly into adjacent communities, spreading terror and death.

The Zapatistas also dig 23 tunnels into nearby neighborhoods. They emerge from them — often disguised as U.S. GIs — and shoot Americans.

Other tunnels help the Zapatistas receive longer-range, deadlier rockets from their allies in Cuba. After one such weapon blasts a suburban street just a mile from Los Angeles International Airport, numerous foreign airlines cancel flights into LAX. For two days, Great Britain’s Civil Aviation Authority ordered its carriers to avoid LAX, thus isolating southern California.

Fed up, America finally rolls into San Diego, to destroy the Zapatista launch sites. U.S. forces try to limit civilian casualties — often dropping leaflets before air strikes, so innocent men, women, and children can escape imminent strikes.

Alas, these precautions frequently fail, since the Zapatistas operate among civilians, hide missiles in grade schools, and catapult explosives from deep inside residential neighborhoods. The cynical Zapatistas understand that blending among regular folks lets them conduct their carnage from behind human shields. This deters U.S. operations and, when America does press forward, pro-Zapatista journalists eagerly showcase the unintended and unfortunate human consequences of American self-defense. Although the Zapatistas’ tactics literally are war crimes, the U.S. always gets blamed — as Americans wearily grow to expect.

Still, Americans support their soldiers, even as those abroad denounce the USA, vandalize American property overseas, and burn the Stars and Stripes, for good measure. Regular Americans recognize that the only thing uglier than the mess in San Diego is to stand around and wait for Zapatista rockets to crater LAX’s runways and convert law-abiding southern Californians into body parts.

While this scenario is an imperfect analogy, it approximates what Israel has endured since 2007, thanks to Hamas — the homicidal, rabidly anti-Semitic, militant-Islamic terrorists who misrule Gaza. As its charter clearly states, “Hamas is one of the links in the Chain of Jihad in the confrontation with the Zionist invasion.” It also declares explicitly, “Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise, whatever time it might take…The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: ‘0 Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me. Come on and kill him!’”

To implement its execrable vision, Hamas uses Gaza’s playgrounds, schoolyards, hospitals, and even mosques to launch its deadly, Jew-killing missiles. This month alone, Hamas has lobbed 2,100 such weapons.

An immediate Israeli cease-fire in Gaza would resemble a surgeon extracting just half of a tumor. Thus, Israel must soldier on until the cancer of Hamas is excised and dumped into history’s medical-waste bin.



I agree, Hamas is a cancer that has to be removed, but how much other non-cancerous tissue has to go as well? Because right now, those Israeli surgeons are amputating a leg in order to remove an ingrown toenail.
 
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I think Gingrich , the new RC hoping it'd help him get nominated, should read some history. Yes Palestine did belong to turkey at one time, but they are arabs, and arabs are INVERTED people, what does he mean by that. The ottoman empire did take over Palestine, till Britian got it and divided it from Turkey and made it Palestine.

Also many people even some Jewish historians who work at Tel Avi believe the Jews are really Kazars and have nothing in common with the Israelites of the ancient days.

What are Kazars?
 
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Just being a pain and tossing some fuel on the fire.

If I am understanding this correctly, More Palestinians Arabs have Hebrew DNA than Israeli Jews.



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Almost anyone can post information on Wikipedia. It would be nice if you linked the source that was in Wikipedia instead.
 
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I do not know much about the Khazar theory but most Jews do not look turkic to me. palestinians and other arabs look like turks.

Plus the stupid Khazar theory doesn't apply to Israel, which has over 50% of the Jewish population from Sephardi background and 20% of the overall population is Arab.
 
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Almost anyone can post information on Wikipedia. It would be nice if you linked the source that was in Wikipedia instead.

Jews and Arabs Share Recent Ancestry

Ann is a contributing correspondent for Science
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Ann Gibbons
30 October 2000 7:00 pm


COLD SPRING HARBOR, NEW YORK--As fighting continues in the Middle East, a new genetic study shows that many Arabs and Jews are closely related. More than 70% of Jewish men and half of the Arab men whose DNA was studied inherited their Y chromosomes from the same paternal ancestors who lived in the region within the last few thousand years.

The results match historical accounts that some Moslem Arabs are descended from Christians and Jews who lived in the southern Levant, a region that includes Israel and the Sinai. They were descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times. And in a recent study of 1371 men from around the world, geneticist Michael Hammer of the University of Arizona in Tucson found that the Y chromosome in Middle Eastern Arabs was almost indistinguishable from that of Jews.

SOURCE

Jews Are The Genetic Brothers Of Palestinians, Syrians, And Lebanese
Date:
May 9, 2000
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New York University Medical Center And School Of Medicine
Summary:
If a common heritage conferred peace, then perhaps the long history of conflict in the Middle East would have been resolved years ago. For, according to a new scientific study, Jews are the genetic brothers of Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, and they all share a common genetic lineage that stretches back thousands of years.

SOURCE
 
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Deroy Murdock: What if Gaza were San Diego instead? | New Hampshire Columns
TO UNDERSTAND why Israel fights in the Gaza Strip, try this thought experiment:

Imagine that Mexicans loudly and violently demand that America vacate the territory that Mexico previously controlled in the U.S. Southwest. To make their case, Mexican revanchists brutally attack American diplomatic posts, assassinate U.S. officials, and even kidnap and kill American athletes at the summer Olympics. Despite such bloodshed, these Mexicans gain supporters among anti-American governments and elites worldwide.

Caving into this pressure, America gives the Mexicans San Diego. Dubbed “Land for Peace,” Washington’s concession would let Mexicans manage that city and show how they might govern if granted a “right of return” on even larger, previously Mexican lands.

While most Americans leave San Diego quietly, the U.S. military ejects holdouts from their property and removes them just before the Mexicans move in.

San Diego’s Mexican citizens soon reject the comparatively tame Institutional Revolutionary Party and elect leaders from the radical Zapatista Army of National Liberation. As its recent communiqué declares: “The anti-capitalist struggle below and to the left continues.”

Before long, the Zapatistas start firing rockets into surrounding areas. Elsewhere in San Diego County, Orange County, and even Long Beach, Americans repeatedly dive into bomb shelters. In the nine years since the U.S. evacuation, about 9,600 missiles soar from San Diego and plunge menacingly into adjacent communities, spreading terror and death.

The Zapatistas also dig 23 tunnels into nearby neighborhoods. They emerge from them — often disguised as U.S. GIs — and shoot Americans.

Other tunnels help the Zapatistas receive longer-range, deadlier rockets from their allies in Cuba. After one such weapon blasts a suburban street just a mile from Los Angeles International Airport, numerous foreign airlines cancel flights into LAX. For two days, Great Britain’s Civil Aviation Authority ordered its carriers to avoid LAX, thus isolating southern California.

Fed up, America finally rolls into San Diego, to destroy the Zapatista launch sites. U.S. forces try to limit civilian casualties — often dropping leaflets before air strikes, so innocent men, women, and children can escape imminent strikes.

Alas, these precautions frequently fail, since the Zapatistas operate among civilians, hide missiles in grade schools, and catapult explosives from deep inside residential neighborhoods. The cynical Zapatistas understand that blending among regular folks lets them conduct their carnage from behind human shields. This deters U.S. operations and, when America does press forward, pro-Zapatista journalists eagerly showcase the unintended and unfortunate human consequences of American self-defense. Although the Zapatistas’ tactics literally are war crimes, the U.S. always gets blamed — as Americans wearily grow to expect.

Still, Americans support their soldiers, even as those abroad denounce the USA, vandalize American property overseas, and burn the Stars and Stripes, for good measure. Regular Americans recognize that the only thing uglier than the mess in San Diego is to stand around and wait for Zapatista rockets to crater LAX’s runways and convert law-abiding southern Californians into body parts.

While this scenario is an imperfect analogy, it approximates what Israel has endured since 2007, thanks to Hamas — the homicidal, rabidly anti-Semitic, militant-Islamic terrorists who misrule Gaza. As its charter clearly states, “Hamas is one of the links in the Chain of Jihad in the confrontation with the Zionist invasion.” It also declares explicitly, “Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise, whatever time it might take…The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: ‘0 Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me. Come on and kill him!’”

To implement its execrable vision, Hamas uses Gaza’s playgrounds, schoolyards, hospitals, and even mosques to launch its deadly, Jew-killing missiles. This month alone, Hamas has lobbed 2,100 such weapons.

An immediate Israeli cease-fire in Gaza would resemble a surgeon extracting just half of a tumor. Thus, Israel must soldier on until the cancer of Hamas is excised and dumped into history’s medical-waste bin.

Absolute straw-man and a grossly inaccurate representation.
 
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