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How far does Noahide go....

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Yes you are reading too much into it. We do not enact capitol punishment.

We do not care what gentiles do with their religious beliefs....all that is
required is that they live a righteous life in the eyes of HaShem.

Anything else is just pure nonsense- there is no Noahide conspiracy, we
don't care what you believe...

Why does this seem to bother you so much?
 
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In the July-August 1991 issue of the Gap, a newsletter published by the Noahide movement, Ernest Easterly, Professor of International Law at Southern University Law Center, made the following statement:

*With further recognition by other nations and international courts, the Seven Noahide Laws should become the cornerstone of a truly civilized international legal order.*
 
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AN AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY FOR AMERICA

America MUST move from the "even-handed" approach that has characterized its foreign policy towards Israel for over 50 years to a policy of UNCONDITIONAL, ABSOLUTE, NO-ANDS-IFS-OR-BUTS SUPPORT for the Children of Israel in ALL of the Land of Israel.

This new foreign policy, an "American Foreign Policy for America", as one commentator calls it, must be based on American recognition of the Covenants: G-d's Noahide Covenant and Laws for all humanity and G-d's Three Covenants with Israel:

The PEOPLE Covenant (G-d chose the Children of Israel to be His People)

The TORAH Covenant (G-d gave His Torah to the Children of Israel)

The LAND Covenant (G-d gave the Land of Israel to the Children of Israel)

America's Founding Fathers believed in G-d. They feared G-d and respected His Covenants. Tragically, far too many of the Founding Fathers' descendents, who may be found among today's ruling American "elites", have forgotten them.

THOSE WHO FORGOT THE G-D OF AMERICA'S FOUNDING FATHERS

United States President Bush is at this moment being advised by his own father, and his father's "friends", to forget the G-d of Their Fathers, who was the G-d of the Founding Fathers of America. That is the G-d of Israel.

If this process of forgetting happens, if America's false prophets will now convince the American President of today to be like the Egyptian Pharoah of old -- "Now there arose a new king over Egypt, who knew not Joseph" [Shemot/Exodus 1:8] -- this will not only bring more suffering to the Children of Israel in the Land of Israel. It will bring suffering to Americans, in America, as well.

http://www.templemount.org/recent2.html
 
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http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2007-12/msg03438.html

U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts

US government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has provided, under the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint Resolution 173 and Public Law 102-14), a groundwork for the
establishment of Talmudic "courts of justice" to be administered by disciples of Shneur Zalman's Chabad successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson.

Maimonides ruled that it is a Jewish court -- or a court appointed by Jewish authority --that enforces obedience and passes judgment on Gentiles, as well as promulgating legislation by court order for that purpose. Maimonides further decreed that any non-Jewish nation "not subject to our jurisdiction" (tahaht yadeinu) will be the target of Jewish holy war. (Cf. Hilkhot Melakhim 8:9-10; 10:11. Also cf. Gerald J. Blidstein, "Holy War in Maimonidean Law," in Perspectives on Maimonides [Oxford, England: Oxford Univ. Press, 1991].
 
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The word 'obsession' comes to mind. Time for a break.

No kidding....here you have a group of people trying to live moral,
ethical lives and people get all bent over it....

Sheesh.....^_^

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No kidding....here you have a group of people trying to live moral,
ethical lives and people get all bent over it....

Sheesh.....^_^
Are you insinuating that christians are not a group of people who are trying ot live moral, ethical lives?
 
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In a Bilateral Commission Meeting between the Vatican delegation and the Chief Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen in Jerusalem in 2007, an agreement was made which recognized that “Jewish tradition emphasizes the Noachide Covenant as containing the universal moral code which is incumbent upon all humanity.” (Cf Genesis 9).

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/p...i_doc_20070313_commissione-bilaterale_en.html
 
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Are you insinuating that christians are not a group of people who are trying ot live moral, ethical lives?

Of course not, and how you can possibly read that into my post is
beyond me....:confused:


What I am saying is that Noahides are trying to live moral ,ethical
lives, and some people seem to have a problem with them. I don't
get it.

And I also do not understand why in the world you possibly care
what Noahides believe?? Why the tirade against them?
 
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In reading the brief seven laws... you will note that not one of them has anything to do with a relationship with God. These laws are in regard to a relationship with Jews and their judiscial system, and with animals.

That's an interesting deletion of WHO gave the Laws in the first place. Further interesting is the FACT that it's inferred that no discussion on how to have a relationship with G-d means that one can't have one. I don't need an outline on how to have a relationship with G-d. The laws are prohitions which establish guidelines for how to 1) interact with G-d 2) interact with humanity and 3) interact with the world around us.

I've read the first and last page. Talk about fearful disinformation.
 
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Of course not, and how you can possibly read that into my post is
beyond me....:confused:


What I am saying is that Noahides are trying to live moral ,ethical
lives, and some people seem to have a problem with them. I don't
get it.

And I also do not understand why in the world you possibly care
what Noahides believe?? Why the tirade against them?
Shalom ChaVak! So this is where you are at.
The NCR board is beginning to look like a ghost town now and I may have to come here and "annoy" ya'll instead. ^_^ ;) :hug:

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Encyclopedia Americana's explanation of the Noahide Laws, "Throughout the ages, scholars have viewed the Noahide Laws as a link between Judaism and Christianity, as universal norms of ethical conduct, as a basic concept of international law, or as a guarantee of fundamental human rights for all."
 
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