How does your church baptize?

[whatfor]

Our church does full immersion in a pool they get in specially.
I know they have also done some in the ocean too.

 

[Tavania]

We have a pool under the main stage. I was really suprised when I first saw it, you'd never know it was there. Anyway that gets used for immersion baptisms around every 6 weeks or so.

 

[Ave Maria]

My church baptizes in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit and it baptizes using immersion.

 

[JACKSONVILLE4]

Our Church baptizes in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by immersion.

 

[Ave Maria]

why argue over something that doesn't save us anyway...seems pointless..

You have a good point. Baptism does not save us (contrary to what some Christians would say) so why argue about it?

 

[Brother Jason]

You have a good point. Baptism does not save us (contrary to what some Christians would say) so why argue about it?

I agree, but I don't think anyone has been arguing over it. I was just curious to see how other people's churches baptized, I don't believe anyone here is accusing anyone here of being right or wrong.

 

[Estheri]

in our church peopel are baptised in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit by full imersion

 

[Elle_For_Short]

At my old church, and at my new church a AoG, it was done my The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and they completely immerse you in water. We did it at a lake. Both churches. Oddly the same lake.

 

[Gyorg]

Is that using the words "In Jesus Name" or in the authority of Jesus name?

Using Jesus' name would be 'the' authoritative way presented, according to the book of Acts.

Acts 2:38; (Ephesians 2:20) 4:11, 12.




By mentioning "or in the authority of Jesus name" I might just see where you are going with this; Matthew 28:19?
Within this verse I see two major distinctions: "name," and 'titles.' The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles; Jesus being the name.
Individuals which I could present, you possibly knowing, asked for the name of YHVH: being denied it (O.T.). Then came along Matthew 1:21.

 

[RevDerek]

Using Jesus' name would be 'the' authoritative way presented, according to the book of Acts.

Acts 2:38; (Ephesians 2:20) 4:11, 12.




By mentioning "or in the authority of Jesus name" I might just see where you are going with this; Matthew 28:19?
Within this verse I see two major distinctions: "name," and 'titles.' The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles; Jesus being the name.
Individuals which I could present, you possibly knowing, asked for the name of YHVH: being denied it (O.T.). Then came along Matthew 1:21.

Actually, that is a oneness view of scripture and baptism. I was referring to the Hebraic view point of the Apostles, in which they would have baptized "in Jesus Name", meaning that they were baptizing with the authority given them by Jesus, not reciting the words "In Jesus Name", or in Hebrew "BaShem Yeshua".

We in America, and the Christian church as a whole tend to take these passages too literally and with a Western Gentile mindset. The Apostles were Eastern Jews with an entirely different way of thinking and in a much different cultural context. When we baptize "In Jesus Name" we are using HIS authority, not our own. For example, if I were to baptize someone in my own authority, it would be meaningless...Jesus is the baptizer, not Derek. Jesus is the one who saves, not Derek. Are you following what I am saying? If we want to get wrapped up in formulas, Jesus Himself commanded the disciples to baptize "In the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost"...but really He was commanding them to baptize under the authority of the Godhead.

If you lend credibility to the Didache as an authentic document, you will find people being immersed, sprinkled, or water poured over them THREE times as the practice of the Apostles when they baptized...once for each person of the Godhead...Father, Son, Spirit! Even the Jewish custom of handwashing is a matter of pouring water over the hands THREE times. The hands are not considered truly clean until they have been washed three times...just past the wrist.

Does this raise any questions or answer any questions? I think this is something to really consider.

 

[Gyorg]

Actually, that is a oneness view of scripture and baptism. I was referring to the Hebraic view point of the Apostles, in which they would have baptized "in Jesus Name", meaning that they were baptizing with the authority given them by Jesus, not reciting the words "In Jesus Name", or in Hebrew "BaShem Yeshua".

We in America, and the Christian church as a whole tend to take these passages too literally and with a Western Gentile mindset. The Apostles were Eastern Jews with an entirely different way of thinking and in a much different cultural context. When we baptize "In Jesus Name" we are using HIS authority, not our own. For example, if I were to baptize someone in my own authority, it would be meaningless...Jesus is the baptizer, not Derek. Jesus is the one who saves, not Derek. Are you following what I am saying? If we want to get wrapped up in formulas, Jesus Himself commanded the disciples to baptize "In the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost"...but really He was commanding them to baptize under the authority of the Godhead.

If you lend credibility to the Didache as an authentic document, you will find people being immersed, sprinkled, or water poured over them THREE times as the practice of the Apostles when they baptized...once for each person of the Godhead...Father, Son, Spirit! Even the Jewish custom of handwashing is a matter of pouring water over the hands THREE times. The hands are not considered truly clean until they have been washed three times...just past the wrist.

Does this raise any questions or answer any questions? I think this is something to really consider.

One. Interesting you mention Godhead. I reference Colossians 2:9; in consideration of Jesus' name: and not according to the titles. You missed a large portion of my point, emphasizing Matthew 28:19: Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Have you read the verses I've presented? Specifically Acts 4:11, 12? There's only one name under Heaven man is saved by. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is not a name, but a reference to 'the' name: as Colossians 2:9 tells.

As 'it's' in him, 'it's' under him; his name specifically.

[About Didache; I have no idea what this is referencing]

 

[Ariel]

I was baptized as a child in the Catholic church. I remember the experience because something spiritual happened in that room that I have trouble putting into words. I believe the Holy Spirit was there--and I saw the Shekinah glory. God touched me at that moment. I believe He used that sprinkling as a dedication to Him.

I wasn't saved until I was 19. I was filled with the Holy Spirit at 21. I still went to Catholic mass, and did all that the church required. But the Holy Spirit was drawing me out.

I was starving for the Word of God. At age 25 I joined a Foursquare Church and began reading the Word through for the first time.

That's when the Holy Spirit began telling me that He wanted me to be baptized by immersion. I fought it. I told Him that I didn't need to be baptized, that I knew I was saved, and filled.

The Lord spoke to me. He told me that He didn't need to be baptized, either....

How can you argue with that?

I was baptized the next Sunday, by immersion.

Do you realize that Romans 6 associates baptism with being dead to sin? I am bringing this up because I know why God wanted me to be baptized by immersion. He wanted that old sin nature to be completely broken off of me!

There is something that happens when a person is baptized that breaks off the hold sin has had on them. In their identification with Christ's death, they are also dying. In being raised, they are being raised to newness of life.

For this reason, I am convinced that we need to get our converts baptized as soon as possible.

 

[RevDerek]

One. Interesting you mention Godhead. I reference Colossians 2:9; in consideration of Jesus' name: and not according to the titles. You missed a large portion of my point, emphasizing Matthew 28:19: Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Have you read the verses I've presented? Specifically Acts 4:11, 12? There's only one name under Heaven man is saved by. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is not a name, but a reference to 'the' name: as Colossians 2:9 tells.

As 'it's' in him, 'it's' under him; his name specifically.

[About Didache; I have no idea what this is referencing]

Didache is the "supposed" doctrine of the Apostles. YOu can find it online for free. It speaks of how people are to be baptized, how to recognize a false prophet, how to fast, etc.

 

[Gyorg]

Didache is the "supposed" doctrine of the Apostles. YOu can find it online for free. It speaks of how people are to be baptized, how to recognize a false prophet, how to fast, etc.

Interesting.

 

[RevDerek]

Interesting.

It is quite interesting actually, but it's authenticity is certainly questionable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didache

Here is the relevant passage to this thread:

1. Concerning baptism, baptise thus: Having first rehearsed all these things, "baptise, in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost," in running water;

2. But if thou hast no running water, baptise in other water, and if thou canst not in cold, then in warm.

3. But if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."

4. And before the baptism let the baptiser and him who is to be baptised fast, and any others who are able. And thou shalt bid him who is to be baptised to fast one or two days before.

 

[mrhappy3]

Father = Lord Son= Jesus Holy Spirit = Christ

what do you reckon....???

Baptism doesn't remit sin though, blood applied at repentance (acts 3v19)

Oneness, who always have a different angle say.....God forgives sin at repentance , but only remits sin at Baptism........SAME word in Greek though.


Can of worms time !!!!!??

 

[Gyorg]

Father = Lord Son= Jesus Holy Spirit = Christ

what do you reckon....???

Baptism doesn't remit sin though, blood applied at repentance (acts 3v19)

Oneness, who always have a different angle say.....God forgives sin at repentance , but only remits sin at Baptism........SAME word in Greek though.


Can of worms time !!!!!??

Baptism doesn't remit sin? What say you to Acts 22:16?

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
KJV

"and be converted," elaborate on this for me, will you? When does one take on the name?

 

[RevDerek]

Father = Lord Son= Jesus Holy Spirit = Christ

what do you reckon....???

Baptism doesn't remit sin though, blood applied at repentance (acts 3v19)

Oneness, who always have a different angle say.....God forgives sin at repentance , but only remits sin at Baptism........SAME word in Greek though.


Can of worms time !!!!!??

Well, if you take the position that the didache is indeed the doctrine of the 12, then the oneness formula flies right out the window. There reasoning for using that formula also flies out the window. But the fact that Jesus himself said to use "In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" is enough for me to use that formula, without using extra-canonical texts to support it. If Jesus was God in the flesh, then His instruction is Gospel. (And Jesus WAS God in the Flesh, no doubt about that)

 

[RevDerek]

Baptism doesn't remit sin? What say you to Acts 22:16?

Baptism does not remit sin, only the blood of Jesus remits sin. Baptism is an act of obedience and an outward sign to others of an inward change and a confession of faith in Christ.

 

[Gyorg]

Baptism does not remit sin, only the blood of Jesus remits sin. Baptism is an act of obedience and an outward sign to others of an inward change and a confession of faith in Christ.

This brings an important question; when is the blood applied?

Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
KJV