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How does one know anything via faith?

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You fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of splitting the corpus callosum. It is a medical procedure undertaken to relieve extreme seizures. The fact that split-brain patients offer unique and interesting insights into neurology and psychology is a neat side-effect, but it is only ever done to alleviate serious medical conditions.

Well one simple reason I believe it is because it makes sense and does not contradict the possible.

It "makes sense"? How do you establish that? With reason, logic, and evidence?
 
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Even when somebody changes their mind, they AGAIN think they are right.
People always think they are right. They sometimes admit they used to be wrong.
But now, they are right....of course.
Hopefully, you can see that your right vs wrong ideas are not realistic.
 
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We can't question a god, we can only question the books written about him and the people who claim to speak for him.

Will suicide bombers go to heaven where virgins are waiting for them?
Did Vikings go to the Hall in Valhalla to dine with the gods.
Do Christians go to their Heaven?

No one knows as no one has been there and come back to affirm or deny their existence.

Was the Earth created in 6 days, Adam and Eva, Cain and Abel all true? No and we can prove it. So were the original writers lying?

Catch 22
 
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We can't question a god, we can only question the books written about him and the people who claim to speak for him.
I ask God questions all the time. Some are answered, some are not.
Will suicide bombers go to heaven where virgins are waiting for them?
Did Vikings go to the Hall in Valhalla to dine with the gods.
The Bible says people are judged by what they know.
Do Christians go to their Heaven?
No one knows as no one has been there and come back to affirm or deny their existence.
Some say they have.
Was the Earth created in 6 days, Adam and Eva, Cain and Abel all true? No and we can prove it. So were the original writers lying?
No, they were not lying, simply presenting information in a way that could be understood by all ages.[/QUOTE]
Revelation 22

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Although psychology and neuroscience are still embryonic, our understanding in these fields is mature enough for us to declare with reasonable confidence that the mind is dependent on the physical brain. Any talk of brainless consciousness is unfounded. We are still grappling with how the brain produces conscious experience; we are even grappling over how best to word that question. What we don't disagree on anymore, however, is the necessity of the brain to conscious life.
 
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I ask God questions all the time. Some are answered, some are not.
Must be nice to talk with god and get answers.
The Bible says people are judged by what they know.
Life does the same.
Some say they have.
Proof please. Because some say they've been abducted by Aliens, it's only until we examine the evidence we find the truth.
No, they were not lying, simply presenting information in a way that could be understood by all ages.
So lying. Genesis is wrong, a god could of told them something a lot closer to the truth. And they would of understood and believed.
Revelation 22
Which sums it up. A man saying this today, while living in a cave. would be in an asylum. Someone tells us he was holy and spoke with god. and some believe it. Even though modern theologians and historians agree he was talking about Rome.

Ken if a god gave us a brain to question, a free will to use. By making those redundant, you insult him by believing what men tell you to believe. Be that people seeing god, angels, aliens or the end of the world in 2012. Or one of the many times it was predicted in the past and will be in the future.
 
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I ask God questions all the time. Some are answered, some are not.

Cool. Do any of these answers rise above your own imagination? Could you ask for and receive a cure for the common cold? A unified theory of gravity? Who will win at the the next Academy awards?
 
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Yes, people always think that they are right, because if they think they're wrong, they're going to change their mind. However, in any given situation, that does not mean someone cannot be wrong, and cannot be shown to have been wrong.
 
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Knowledge is based on learning which is based on research and thinking for one's self.

Once someone presents a book and says all you need to know is in here. You can bet any money you like, there's a lot more you need to know.

Das Kapital
Mein Kampf
Quran
Torah
Christian Bible
Dianetics
Book of Mormon
Bhagavad-gita

And all there affiliated books offering a slightly different version, and all on sale at a store near you. LOL

You learn nothing from blind faith.
 
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Must be nice to talk with god and get answers. Life does the same.
What did Life say when you asked: "What happens when I die?"
Proof please. Because some say they've been abducted by Aliens, it's only until we examine the evidence we find the truth.
No proof, just evidence that stretches back thousands of years.
So lying. Genesis is wrong, a god could of told them something a lot closer to the truth. And they would of understood and believed.
That reminds me of when I first read Shakespeare - what a lot of rubbish I thought. After I had learned how to read it, I realized the profound truths being expressed.

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You really can't see any difference among those books? One is a collection of writings over a long period of time by many different authors, providing a seamless expression of God's relationship with humankind.

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Cool. Do any of these answers rise above your own imagination? Could you ask for and receive a cure for the common cold? A unified theory of gravity? Who will win at the the next Academy awards?
There is only one thing certain in your life and that is your death, so seems to me the most important question to get an answer to is "Why?"


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Thats good I'm glad it can relieve extreme seizures, but when the procedure starts being used for purposes other than to help patience, I fear its getting into ethical dilemmas. When you start tampering with the brain you risk damaging it and severely affecting the person ability to think and reason. Thankfully, our brains have a miraculous ability to heal themselves and even be strengthened through training and I don't believe this is an accident, but rather by design because a reasonable person with faith who is able to think for themselves is a force to be reckoned with.

 
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No, our brains don't have a "miraculous" ability to heal themselves.
 
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Its important to agree on a definition of terms in order to understand each other. I try to define terms in the most reasonable way possible and I expect others to do the same, or else there being unreasonable. I don't consider anything you say a personal attack, I view our dialogue as a friendly discussion.



But if we're being reasonable and we believe the universe is not dependent on our conscious minds, then isn't it most reasonable to believe that the universe is dependent on unalterable laws or truths? And if we continue to be reasonable and we consider the fact that our conscious minds are required in order for us to realize a degree of those unalterable laws or truths, it then becomes reasonable to believe that those unalterable laws or truths are "realized" by an unalterable conscious mind that is timeless, thus is conscious and exists simultaneously and infinitely.



The only meaning is has is that it seems impossible for something to cease to exist.


The particles that made up the glass of water have always existed within the universe, so these particles went from not forming a glass of water to being formed into a glass of water and then being smashed into a broken glass of water. Now all of this forming and smashing required space and time, which also exist within the universe. So if you imagine yourself able to step outside of space/time you'd view the glass of water as taking all possible forms simultaneously in a single instance of timelessness. So from your subjective view it appears as if the glass of water ceases to exist, when in reality it has always existed in some form within the universe.

That would mean that your reasoning, based on the apparent contradiction of "unchangable truth of existence" and "non-existence", is false. If you assume a "beginning", you assert a state of non-existence.

Nope, not a contradiction because my beginning is dependent on God infinity existing in timelessness. So before me was God and God is infinite and timeless so saying that I non-exist before my beginning is pointless because what was before me is infinite timeless existence.


Did things not-exist at a point of time before their beginning? Or did they exist?

Before the beginning of anything there was infinite timeless existence. Before anything there was God. This is what I believe.


Your position is based on faulty conclusions... as I have just shown, here in the last paragraph.

No, my reasoning is based on my limited understanding of infinite timeless existence and I only have this limited understanding because I believe in God and have accepted the sacrifice of His son for my sins.
 
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Is the video claiming that our brain's ability to heal itself is "miraculous"?

I don't think they used the term miraculous, but it's pretty darn cool and fascinating that our brains have this capability built into them as if by design. Sure you can assume it's not by design, but it's much more reasonable to believe it's by design because it just makes sense.
 
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Why does design make sense? What would lead you to that conclusion?
 
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