How do you plan to escape HELL???

[quatona]

And here is where you are Wrong!!!

Where you think I am wrong.

Heaven is an actual place. Hell is a holding chamber for the wicked who are waiting for the Day of Judgment. Once they are judged, then they will be sentenced and cast into the everlasting Lake of Fire.

They both exist. You can not see them with the naked human eye, but trust me; they are more real than you are.

That´s the actual problem, SoF: I don´t have any reason to trust you on this anymore than anyone else.

WHERE'S YOUR PROOF!!!??? --hahahaaahaahah like I didn't know that was coming?!

May I suggest that you leave my responses to me and don´t put words in my mouth? Thank you.

Go to U.C. Berkeley and go to their Physics department. Ask them about dimensions! Ask them how many dimensions they know about and can see traces of? Last I heard there were 18 dimensions that the boys were researching.

And this has to do what with heaven and hell?

I submit to you that GOD is in all of them and rules all of them. Why do you think angels, when they appear, look shiny?

I neither think angels appear nor that they look shiny.

How was it that Jesus was not in the room and then 'Wham'! He is right in their midst (John 20, Luke 24)???

I´m not sure this happened.

Physics! Dimensions that you and I do not run in; but He does!!!

You seem to be digressing.
You wanted to give me reasons to believe that hell and heaven are actual places.

Oh my friend, Hell is very much real. Heaven is very very much real. That is why us Christians are so passionate to let you know of the Truth of God and His eternal realms. All of them.

What was your argument in between the claim "heaven and hell are real places" and your conclusion "heaven and hell are real places"? I can´t seem to find it.

WE DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO RESIDE IN THE ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE!!!!!!!

No need to shout.
I don´t want you to keep residing in your inner hell.

 

[Beanieboy]

I'm planning to use the Chewbacca defense.

If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit!

 

[Beanieboy]

Let me give a serious response.

I was formerly Christian, and now closer to Buddhist, or maybe theist, or agnostic. Who knows.

Let's just say, for argument's sake, that there really is a Jesus, and there really is a God.

I would tell God that i lived my life to love my neighbor as myself. If, in feeding the hungry, I have fed Christ, my loving of my neighbor is loving and serving God. I have nutured the fruit of the Spirit - joy, peace, slowness to anger, compassion, mercy, and love. I have challenged those who painted God as an angry tyrant. But most of all, I lived my life following the greatest commandment, not to avoid hellfire, but simply to make the world a better place. I did all of this to simply make the world a better place than when I found it. I did this not to "earn" my way to heaven, but because heaven is already inside of me, and I have no choice but to act on my heart, and reach out and help others. I do it all for no reward, and yet, it is its own reward - a better community, better karma.

None of us deserve heaven, but none of us really deserve hell. We spend so much time with self hatred that maybe who we really need to forgive is ourselves.

And if that isn't enough, then I will walk myself into the lake of fire, but the Higher Power that I have come to know is not a lawyer, is not a nitpicker. The Higher Power I know comes to heal, comes to bring us to him out of his love for us.

He doesn't hold a gun to my head and tell me to worship.
Rather, he sees me in darkness, and calls to me, and I follow, being drawn closer and closer to him.

So, if that isn't you, then I was wrong. Do with me what you will.
But I know better. I know your voice as you know mine, and I know your heart as you know mine.

 

[Braunwyn]

"WE DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO RESIDE IN THE ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE!!!!!!! "

And it would make no sense for a God to want that either, if there is God etc, under any condition. Unless I'm missing the "pro" part of a sadist.

 

[uberd00b]

I'm planning to use the Chewbacca defense.

If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit!

This post is made of WIN.

 

[ReverendDG]

I'm planning to use the Chewbacca defense.

If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit!

someday i really want a chance to use this! someday..

 

[Renton405]

Christ is the ressurection. Without Christ you will die in your sins and not be ressurected to heaven on judgement day..Those who hear and recognize Jesus's words are his flock, those who don't are not his flock and reprobate..

To put it simple. If someone dies without Christ, they will die in their sins, and their own sins will condemn them to gehenna and after the judgement, the lake of fire and brimstone, which never ends..


"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." - Revelation 21:8

And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. - Revelation 20:10


"And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." - Revelation 14:11

 

[Eudaimonist]

Christ is the ressurection.

Are you trying to give an example of the Chewbacca defense?


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Renton405]

Are you trying to give an example of the Chewbacca defense?


eudaimonia,

Mark

No, I am relaying the truth that Christ gave us..

 

[Sitswithamouse]

..

To put it simple. If someone dies without Christ, they will die in their sins, and their own sins will condemn them to gehenna and after the judgement, the lake of fire and brimstone, which never ends..


"

If i go to Gehenna remind me to take a mask and some soap.
Gehenna was the name of the garbage dump just outside the walls of jerusalem.

 

[Eudaimonist]

No, I am relaying the truth that Christ gave us..

We've heard that claim a bazillion times over. We still have no more reason to trust your judgment over SoF's.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Aquamarine81]

Hell(and probably heaven too) is a state of mind -- escapable only by death.

 

[Renton405]

If i go to Gehenna remind me to take a mask and some soap.
Gehenna was the name of the garbage dump just outside the walls of jerusalem.

gehenna is where they burned garbage endlessly..

Same way the "garbage" will be burned endless in the afterlife who die in their sins without Christ. It is harsh teaching but it is the truth..

We've heard that claim a bazillion times over. We still have no more reason to trust your judgment over SoF's.


eudaimonia,

Its Jesus who will judge you not SOF..Without Christ you will die in your sins..Im sure you won't hear me, because if you are not of Christs flock you will not recognize the sayings.. maybe later on in life you will?? If Christ said HE himself was the truth how can you argue things that you "think" are true against a being who claimed to be truth himself and then raised from the dead 3 days later?? Have any other men raised from the dead with witnesses like Jesus did?

 

[TheManeki]

Hell(and probably heaven too) is a state of mind -- escapable only by death.

Your post reminded me of the "Hell is other people" line from Sartre's No Exit.

 

[StarCannon]

Zzz...Zzz...Zzz...Z...Zzz... huh? What's the debate? Oh. That thing again?*opens an eye* Hmm... *shrugs a bit, yawns a little more* If Hell was really real, we'd know by now. And if the bible was truth, we'd also know that by now. Therefore, with that in mind, it isn't. because then we'da heard from your "god" by now as well and I'm pretty sure that the world woulda been destroyed about ten times over, given the conduct of humans.
*closes that eye* ....Zzzzzz....zzzzzz......zzz.z..

 

[Eudaimonist]

Its Jesus who will judge you not SOF..

And I still have no more reason to believe that this is true than SoF's empty claims.

Im sure you won't hear me, because if you are not of Christs flock you will not recognize the sayings.. maybe later on in life you will??

I hear you just fine. You simply have given me no reason to believe you.

If Christ said HE himself was the truth how can you argue things that you "think" are true against a being who claimed to be truth himself

Simple. It's a nonsensical claim. Truth is a cognitive relationship with reality, not a conscious entity. Anyone who claims to be truth is lying or mistaken.

Have any other men raised from the dead with witnesses like Jesus did?

You have not given me any reason to believe that anyone has.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Alexandrah]

I was told that if you make a million posts on here you can escape hell.

So, that's my plan.

 

[Renton405]

Zzz...Zzz...Zzz...Z...Zzz... huh? What's the debate? Oh. That thing again?*opens an eye* Hmm... *shrugs a bit, yawns a little more* If Hell was really real, we'd know by now. And if the bible was truth, we'd also know that by now. Therefore, with that in mind, it isn't. because then we'da heard from your "god" by now as well and I'm pretty sure that the world woulda been destroyed about ten times over, given the conduct of humans.
*closes that eye* ....Zzzzzz....zzzzzz......zzz.z..

Then why are you here on this forum?? Its obvious something in christianity is bringing you here..

Do you know how many times God has been made known to us? Have you seen the amount of miracles? Have you read about the mystics like Catherine Anne Emmerich and Padre Pio?? Have you seen the miracles I posted that happened in Zebulin Egypt? what about the 70,000 witnesees at Fatima?? What about all the witnesses of Jesus's ressurection? What about the 500 that saw him one day that St. Paul reported?? What about St. Thomas who said he would not believe unless he saw Jesus himself and put his finger in his scars and his side?? What about communion hosts turning into actual blood and flesh? What about the image of Our lady of Guadaulupe which is still displayed in mexico and has been studying and scientists still cannot figure out how the image got on the cloth. What about the thousands of crying statues and apparitions that have happened? It would be foolish to ignore everyone of them..

 

[catlover]

Pope Eugene IV sounds like a dreadful man...

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Check out the meaning of Unclean spirits in the N.T. Greek. The word literally means Anal-bile!!! That is what demons are; spirits that have smeared ANAL-BILE on their white priestly garments!!!

You forgot the menstrual blood and excrement.
Clearly your knowledge of the sacred defilements of Pestilentials bes in need of expansion, stat.

They are nasty vile beings. Filled with hatred toward you.

But that's what makesy Them so sweet and hot and delicious and ... nngngngngngnhhhgnnngnng

You can listen to them, but you will wind up in the same eternal home as them: THE LAKE OF FIRE!!!

Moriah already burns ... every moment ... like a ruby star tearing through the crimson sky .... it wants to burn in the lake of fire where at last it can be free from mortal constraints to scream and scream and bloody scream and wail and wail at the top of its lungs. At least there someone will hear it. And according to some theologies, take dirty pleasure in that as well. No one hears it here and now in the void of space.

The truth. You can't handle the truth. (*wonders who will report this post first and on what grounds*)

JESUS CHRIST can cleanse you of your sins! HE actually does love you, and can make you whiter than snow!!!

Well We've asked Him numerous times. He just bes not interested. He doesn't talksy to this one when it talksy Him. Not like Them Pestilentials.

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