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Even if no one else does, i know exactly how you feel. Can I ask you one question. I know for a fact that my dad hated God, not like a lot of people who hate the idea of God, my dad knowingly hated God. Do you know if one of your parents or close ancestors did?I don't want to be in the pleasant warm breeze of affliction
Not to my knowledge. Pretty sure mom was a believer. Dad didn’t hateGod but fairly sure he wasn’t a ChristianEven if no one else does, i know exactly how you feel. Can I ask you one question. I know for a fact that my dad hated God, not like a lot of people who hate the idea of God, my dad knowingly hated God. Do you know if one of your parents or close ancestors did?
And what good is any of that if he doesn’t act to help? Nothing. Empty words.You talk about God's inaction - yet he made the universe, world and you. You are made in his image. You have been given life and an opportunity to know God and have every spiritual blessing in Christ, Ephesians 1:3. You can be God's child, adopted as his son, John 1:12, Romans 8:16, and have his Spirit living in you.
I disagree. He had foreknowledge and didn’t have the sin attached to Adam’s seed. If he REALLY wanted to understand, he would have come her as clueless as the rest of us.You say that actions speak louder than words; look at the cross. A perfect, sinless man died on that cross - why? He offered his perfect life for your sinful one. That perfect, sinless man, Jesus, was also God. So God himself came into our world to walk alongside us and experience rejection, betrayal, insults, hope, joy and the day to day routine of what we go through.
Actions speak louder than words: God didn't just say that he understood, he became one of us, experienced our lives and proved it.
No. The babies never knew pain. Are we better off when our loved ones are ravaged by medically incurable diseases (strokes) and reduced to half a person bedridden? No, we are not!Yes, of course it would be nice to have a comfortable, pleasant life here, but not everyone has that.
People don't choose to be born into poverty, or with a disability or parents who neglected them or were addicts - none of us even chooses to be born. Yet if we have life, we are doing way better than small babies who die before they can live. If we have a home, we are doing better than those even in our own country who sleep on the streets, never mind all those who have lost their home. If we have 3 meals a day we are doing far better than those who don't even have one. If we are healthy we are doing better than those who were born with disabilities, or addicted. If we have family we are doing better than those who've lost their loved ones due to war or violence.
No amount of pain will cause me to trust. Caring enough to actually help would work though.Sure, there are people in these positions who hate God for their lot in life - but there are also those who come to faith and come to trust, and love, him IN their circumstances.
Life can be unfair, sad or just the pits, but this life is not all there is.
How old are you? Not that in our society there aren't 60+ yr olds that still act like irresponsible teenagers. You might find that your resume gets tossed out. Be humble and don't expect to be given a silver platter BUT do what you can to make better yourself and be noticed by man and God. Luke 2:52When I say actually help, I mean materially improve the situation. I don’t mean ANY form of making me feel better about it. His grace, love, presence, patience, etc.=not actually helping. How do I get him to act rather than give me completely empty words?
Ask Him what he needs you to do in order to release His hand to work. Most of the promises in the Bible (those words) are conditional. That is, you have to fulfill some conditions for them to be released to you. This is not working for the fulfillment same as a marriage involves conditions that you do not enjoy as payment for the work you put into it even though a good marriage is work. Ask Him what He wants you to do first.When I say actually help, I mean materially improve the situation. I don’t mean ANY form of making me feel better about it. His grace, love, presence, patience, etc.=not actually helping. How do I get him to act rather than give me completely empty words?
And what good is any of that if he doesn’t act to help? Nothing. Empty words.
I disagree. He had foreknowledge and didn’t have the sin attached to Adam’s seed.
If he REALLY wanted to understand, he would have come her as clueless as the rest of us.
No. The babies never knew pain.
Are we better off when our loved ones are ravaged by medically incurable diseases (strokes) and reduced to half a person bedridden? No, we are not!
No amount of pain will cause me to trust. Caring enough to actually help would work though.
Ok, the reason I asked is my dad absolutely hated God. I always remember one time in particular when he said he hated God with such a look of venomous hatred on his face and the only time I actually remember drool running down his chin. Exodus 20:4 says He will punish those who hate him to the third and fourth generations, I suspect thats why I am in this situation. People say Jesus became the curse so when we are born again we dont have to suffer this but everything I see makes me think it is. Years of praying asking Jesus and the Father to take this off me as Jesus died on the cross for our sins have been to no avail. I have never come across anyone else i have genuinely believed knows who God is and hated Him. I suspect a lot of people who say they hate God dont actually know who He is to hate Him, but hate the idea of God. If thats the case this curse wouldnt apply to them.Not to my knowledge. Pretty sure mom was a believer. Dad didn’t hateGod but fairly sure he wasn’t a Christian
Ok, the reason I asked is my dad absolutely hated God. I always remember one time in particular when he said he hated God with such a look of venomous hatred on his face and the only time I actually remember drool running down his chin. Exodus 20:4 says He will punish those who hate him to the third and fourth generations, I suspect thats why I am in this situation. People say Jesus became the curse so when we are born again we dont have to suffer this but everything I see makes me think it is. Years of praying asking Jesus and the Father to take this off me as Jesus died on the cross for our sins have been to no avail. I have never come across anyone else i have genuinely believed knows who God is and hated Him. I suspect a lot of people who say they hate God dont actually know who He is to hate Him, but hate the idea of God. If thats the case this curse wouldnt apply to them.
My dad really did hate Him, I wonder if you have a family member (up to three generations back making you the fourth) who did as well. Just remember that if this is the case and you can still love God you are bringing blessing to a thousand generations.
Maybe you can give me some advice on here if you think my understanding is off.I'd like to reply to this but I can't because it's an advice forum, not a debating one.
Maybe you could start another thread?
Maybe you can give me some advice on here if you think my understanding is off.
Ok, the reason I asked is my dad absolutely hated God. I always remember one time in particular when he said he hated God with such a look of venomous hatred on his face and the only time I actually remember drool running down his chin. Exodus 20:4 says He will punish those who hate him to the third and fourth generations, I suspect thats why I am in this situation. People say Jesus became the curse so when we are born again we dont have to suffer this but everything I see makes me think it is. Years of praying asking Jesus and the Father to take this off me as Jesus died on the cross for our sins have been to no avail. I have never come across anyone else i have genuinely believed knows who God is and hated Him. I suspect a lot of people who say they hate God dont actually know who He is to hate Him, but hate the idea of God. If thats the case this curse wouldnt apply to them.
My dad really did hate Him, I wonder if you have a family member (up to three generations back making you the fourth) who did as well. Just remember that if this is the case and you can still love God you are bringing blessing to a thousand generations.
Ok, the reason I asked is my dad absolutely hated God. I always remember one time in particular when he said he hated God with such a look of venomous hatred on his face and the only time I actually remember drool running down his chin. Exodus 20:4 says He will punish those who hate him to the third and fourth generations, I suspect thats why I am in this situation. People say Jesus became the curse so when we are born again we dont have to suffer this but everything I see makes me think it is. Years of praying asking Jesus and the Father to take this off me as Jesus died on the cross for our sins have been to no avail. I have never come across anyone else i have genuinely believed knows who God is and hated Him. I suspect a lot of people who say they hate God dont actually know who He is to hate Him, but hate the idea of God. If thats the case this curse wouldnt apply to them.
My dad really did hate Him, I wonder if you have a family member (up to three generations back making you the fourth) who did as well. Just remember that if this is the case and you can still love God you are bringing blessing to a thousand generations.
Software companies always need trainers! Which are teacher's, you don't actually have to know the software. You just need to translate the experience you do have into tech speak.Definitely, both, but you need money to move, and the only real jobs with affordable pay are finance and tech, meaning retraining, with the hopes the want to hire a recent coder in their mid50s.
Not sure what my next step is going to be, but like the OP, every time I think it is getting better (better paying job fell through, accident with Lyft, etc. something sets me back.
But honestly, everyone thinks of moving away.
I think you have a valid question. After all...When I say actually help, I mean materially improve the situation. I don’t mean ANY form of making me feel better about it. His grace, love, presence, patience, etc.=not actually helping. How do I get him to act rather than give me completely empty words?
I feel the same way you do right now but not about anything that God could provide materially. I hope you find an answer to prove how much God loves and cares for you and I will be praying for you.When I say actually help, I mean materially improve the situation. I don’t mean ANY form of making me feel better about it. His grace, love, presence, patience, etc.=not actually helping. How do I get him to act rather than give me completely empty words?
Do you feel closer to God ? Has this experience helped you ? ( I ask because I am terminally ill and am trying to see how God is using this for me ) I am afraid and not feeling very triumphantNot in the ways they want necessarily.
Did Paul get healing for his affliction this side of physical death? Not that I know of, he asked, and was denied. Was Paul not a "true believer"?
Do we learn now that Paul, who was inspired by the Holy Ghost to write several epistles that we rely on for our faith was a false conversion? I don't think so.
God is not your genie in a lamp, anything you ask in good faith, it becomes HIS decision, and He will make His decision on what better shows His glory, and how you would better serve Him. Jesus healed many infirmities because it was to show the glory of God. Paul was NOT healed, because God wanted to keep him humble before the Lord, and the "thorn in his flesh" was a constant reminder that just because he was an apostle and had many blessings, and great reward to come, he shouldn't get too proud.
I ask for healing too. Sometimes I wonder if I ask for it too much and God considers it "vain repetitions". I was in a phase of remission and going to church again. But now I'm out of remission, my medication is unable to be refilled because of red tape and paperwork shenanigans through the VA, so I'm unable to go anywhere right now.
But, I can kind of see it as God looking out for me because of this new virus, church is a place with a lot of handshaking and contact and a lot of people, people with children, and while I'm on those medications I'm immunocompromised, more susceptible to infection and I'm also in a state where the virus is more likely to kill me than the general population. So maybe God is protecting me with what seems like misfortune and suffering currently, keeping me homebound even if it means forsaking the assembly until I can walk and drive again. Maybe that's what protects me from getting sick with the virus, maybe that's what prevents me from dying from it, because I'm not on the immunosuppressive drugs.
Sometimes God can look out for you in a way that might seem horrible on the surface.
It's difficult isn't it? To be thankful FOR our suffering. To be happy and thankful IN SPITE OF our suffering is easier. However we are to be thankful FOR our suffering and our pain as well.Do you feel closer to God ? Has this experience helped you ? ( I ask because I am terminally ill and am trying to see how God is using this for me ) I am afraid and not feeling very triumphant
I don't want to be in the pleasant warm breeze of affliction
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