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It's God's Holy Word and your Judge at the Judgment. Jhn 12:48 God Bless you
No, it's not. "That which is presented without evidence can be summarily rejected." May your knowledge increase without end.
 
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This isn't even Christianity. I don't know what this is.

It's called God's Truth which agrees with every discovery of mankind. You can find it in Genesis since that's what Genesis is actually saying to people with the increased knowledge of the last days before Jesus returns. Dan 12:4 God is pouring out His Spirit of Truth through the discoveries of Science in the last days which CONFIRM what He told us in Genesis. ONLY God could have told us this 3k years ago. Amen?
 
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It's called God's Truth which agrees with every discovery of mankind.
But it doesn't.
You can find it in Genesis since that's what Genesis is actually saying to people with the increased knowledge of the last days before Jesus returns. Dan 12:4 God is pouring out His Spirit of Truth through the discoveries of Science in the last days which CONFIRM what He told us in Genesis. ONLY God could have told us this 3k years ago. Amen?
Oh, he's "pouring it out," is he? Is it viscous? Is it sticky? May your knowledge increase without end?
 
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No, it's not. "That which is presented without evidence can be summarily rejected."

Who told you that there was no evidence in Genesis? It's full of it IF you have the proper understanding, which you keep demonstrating that you do NOT. I'm sorry but you seem to believe the superstitious ancient theologians. Don't you know that ONLY the people of the last days can understand?

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon ALL flesh:

Get ready to be converted by your love for Godless Science. Will you still believe in Science when it is confirming Genesis?
 
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It will since I am alive forevermore, thanks to Jesus. I hope I can remember your name a Million years from now, but I can't promise. God Bless you
With religion like yours, it'll take longer than infinity to gain meaningful knowledge! May your knowledge increase without end.
 
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Who told you that there was no evidence in Genesis? It's full of it IF you have the proper understanding, which you keep demonstrating that you do NOT.
A book is evidence of nothing unless it can be shown that the book is factually correct. Unless you're willing to accept Islam - the Quran exists, you know.
I'm sorry but you seem to believe the superstitious ancient theologians. Don't you know that ONLY the people of the last days can understand?

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon ALL flesh:

This is still intellectually dishonest.
Get ready to be converted by your love for Godless Science. Will you still believe in Science when it is confirming Genesis?
If the day ever comes that evidence is presented for religion, I will eat my hat and then start taking religious claims seriously. Until that day, I Scoff on.
 
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It's too bad that your "facts" don't agree with Scripture, science nor history.

I don't care if my facts don't agree with your scripture. If your scripture doesn't agree with reality, I'm not going to consider it as any kind of authoritative source on anything.

What science is there that does not agree with evolution? Are you still on with your ridiculous claim that scientists didn't know life came from water until last year idea?

I'm sorry for your frustration. When you can find support for your ideas, please post supporting Scripture. God Bless you

I will not ever use scripture to back up any claims of science, because the Bible simply is not an accurate description of reality.
 
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A book is evidence of nothing unless it can be shown that the book is factually correct. Unless you're willing to accept Islam - the Quran exists, you know.

This is still intellectually dishonest.

If the day ever comes that evidence is presented for religion, I will eat my hat and then start taking religious claims seriously. Until that day, I Scoff on.

It's already happened and you nor any other evolutionist can tell us HOW some ancient preacher correctly wrote the recent Scientific Discovery that ALL life came from WATER as Gen 1:21 clearly states and which Science confirms. Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things

Be sure to post how your hat tastes....or be identified as intellectually dishonest. God's Truth is the unchanging Truth from more than 3k years ago. Amen?
 
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I don't care if my facts don't agree with your scripture. If your scripture doesn't agree with reality, I'm not going to consider it as any kind of authoritative source on anything.

What science is there that does not agree with evolution? Are you still on with your ridiculous claim that scientists didn't know life came from water until last year idea?

I will not ever use scripture to back up any claims of science, because the Bible simply is not an accurate description of reality.

Today's Science is willingly ignorant that Humans came from another world that was totally destroyed in the flood. 2Pet3:6 This means that the THEORY of evolution is incomplete, since it says NOTHING about true Human origins. Neither can it explain the process, apart from sex, whereby the superior intelligence of God got inside the minds of Apes. God does, since He shows that Adam was made with an intelligence like God's. Gen 3:22 That is WHY Humans (descendants of Adam) have inherited the highest level of intelligence in this Cosmos.
 
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Today's Science is willingly ignorant that Humans came from another world that was totally destroyed in the flood. 2Pet3:6 This means that the THEORY of evolution is incomplete, since it says NOTHING about true Human origins. Neither can it explain the process, apart from sex, whereby the superior intelligence of God got inside the minds of Apes. God does, since He shows that Adam was made with an intelligence like God's. Gen 3:22 That is WHY Humans (descendants of Adam) have inherited the highest level of intelligence in this Cosmos.

Perhaps then you can provide a genetic mechanism by which 4 inbreeding pairs of humans can produce the current level of diversity in only 4500 years.
 
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Perhaps then you can provide a genetic mechanism by which 4 inbreeding pairs of humans can produce the current level of diversity in only 4500 years.

Of course. Noah was married and so were his 3 sons. Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans to marry so they married and produced children with the sons of God (prehistoric people) who numbered some 1 Million 11k years ago. Cain did the SAME thing on Adam's Earth. Cain (His kind) married a prehistoric woman (Their kind) and passed Adam's superior intelligence all over the first world, the world that then was. Genesis 6:1-4 This was repeated by Noah's grandsons on the present Earth.
 
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Today's Science is willingly ignorant that Humans came from another world that was totally destroyed in the flood. 2Pet3:6 This means that the THEORY of evolution is incomplete, since it says NOTHING about true Human origins. Neither can it explain the process, apart from sex, whereby the superior intelligence of God got inside the minds of Apes. God does, since He shows that Adam was made with an intelligence like God's. Gen 3:22 That is WHY Humans (descendants of Adam) have inherited the highest level of intelligence in this Cosmos.

Wow, you're gonna have to do a lot more than just claiming this kind of stuff. I mean, this is really far fetched. All you are doing is throwing verses at me from a book I don't accept anyway, and then claiming that it proves your particular interpretation correct.

You aren't convincing.
 
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Of course. Noah was married and so were his 3 sons. Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans to marry so they married and produced children with the sons of God (prehistoric people) who numbered some 1 Million 11k years ago. Cain did the SAME thing on Adam's Earth. Cain (His kind) married a prehistoric woman (Their kind) and passed Adam's superior intelligence all over the first world, the world that then was. Genesis 6:1-4 This was repeated by Noah's grandsons on the present Earth.
Can you point me to chapter and verse in the scriptures where this specific information (1 million, 11k years ago) is to be found?
 
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Just to preempt the satirists. OK, settle down now.

Following are 3 things which NO one has been able to explain.

1. We live in a Multiverse with at least 3 Universes Gen 1:8 and Gen 2:4
2. All life was created and brought forth from Water. Gen 1:21
3. The combination of prehistoric people and Humans (descendants of Adam) is what produced the soon to be 10 Billion Humans alive today. Gen 6:1-4

NO ancient man who lived thousands of years before Science could not have possibly known and correctly written the Scientific Facts above. It's proof of God and that is what scares unbelievers so bad. Amen?
 
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Wow, you're gonna have to do a lot more than just claiming this kind of stuff. I mean, this is really far fetched. All you are doing is throwing verses at me from a book I don't accept anyway, and then claiming that it proves your particular interpretation correct.

You aren't convincing.

Not to someone who rejects God's Truth. Haven't you noticed that no Bible believing Christians seem to disagree? Is it because they can see that what I post is actually written in Genesis? Of course it is. God Bless you
 
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Can you point me to chapter and verse in the scriptures where this specific information (1 million, 11k years ago) is to be found?

Sure, since the Ark and History agree. History shows that the FIRST Human farming on this Earth began in Northern Mesopotamia, the Cradle of Human civilization. Scripture shows that the Ark arrived in Lake Van, Turkey and Noah walked out of the mountains into Mesopotamia, the land between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers just SW of the mile high Lake Van, which is in the mountains of Ararat. Genesis 8:4 and Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

The events and locations of the arrival of the Ark and History agree that the FIRST Humans (descendants of Adam) arrived here 11k years ago. God and History agree. Add the scientific FACT that today's Humans (descendants of Adam) have the DNA of an ancient woman AND the superior intelligence of Adam, who NEVER took a single step on our Planet and Scripture, Science and History come into agreement. That's God's Truth which is the Truth in every way. Amen?
 
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NO ancient man who lived thousands of years before Science could not have possibly known and correctly written the Scientific Facts above. It's proof of God and that is what scares unbelievers so bad. Amen?
It's not proof of anything; it's post-hoc justification by selective interpretation; a form of confirmation bias. You can make similar interpretations of pretty much any origin myth - it's the same fallacious process that fools people into believing that Nostradamus foretold events that occurred long after his death.
 
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Sure, since the Ark and History agree. History shows that the FIRST Human farming on this Earth began in Northern Mesopotamia, the Cradle of Human civilization. Scripture shows that the Ark arrived in Lake Van, Turkey and Noah walked out of the mountains into Mesopotamia, the land between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers just SW of the mile high Lake Van, which is in the mountains of Ararat. Genesis 8:4 and Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

The events and locations of the arrival of the Ark and History agree that the FIRST Humans (descendants of Adam) arrived here 11k years ago. God and History agree. Add the scientific FACT that today's Humans (descendants of Adam) have the DNA of an ancient woman AND the superior intelligence of Adam, who NEVER took a single step on our Planet and Scripture, Science and History come into agreement. That's God's Truth which is the Truth in every way. Amen?
Thank you for taking the time to reply in detail. I appreciate the courtesy shown by your action. In order to reciprocate that courtesty I shall seek not to engage in further discussion with you as it would place undue strain on my self control. My apologies for that. Thank you again.
 
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