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How do I deal with my son being bisexual?

aiki

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My only point was that gospel is supposed to be received, that's it's purpose, not to be rejected.
Can you establish from Scripture that this is so? I find in Scripture that the purpose of the Gospel is to relay the message of salvation to lost sinners. And the Gospel, as thesunisout has already pointed out, declares to all men that they must repent, which is not a popular message today, just as it was not popular in Jesus' time. As Christ explained,

John 3:19-20
19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.

It's not a justification for people being destroyed.
I don't think thesunisout is suggesting that it is. Jesus himself, though, tells us that the route to life through salvation is a "narrow way" and "few there be that find it." (Matt. 7:14)

It's not appropriate to say "it's ok if the gospel offends many, Jesus said it would".
This is essentially what Jesus said. Would you correct the Saviour himself?

The purpose of the gospel... is to be recieved.
No its purpose is to declare men sinful and in jeopardy of eternal death in hell, and thus in desperate need of a Saviour. The Gospel's purpose is to reveal how humanity can be reconciled to God through Christ. It shows both God's holy wrath and His perfect, boundless love. As Jesus taught, however, most will reject the Gospel, for men "loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil." The Gospel is not received by the majority even though it is preached worldwide. This is because it declares things that are not particularly palatable to sinful people. But trying to sugar-coat the Gospel, trying to make its hard truths soft and obscure so sinful people will be induced to accept it, is to offer them a false Gospel that will ultimately lead them to hell.

Selah.
 
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I think people tend to either give Hell too much attention, or too little attention.

The gospel makes it clear that Jesus came to take the punishment for all that would follow him, so as that we would not be subject to eternal torment in the lake of fire.

The gospel also makes it clear that Jesus does not just save us from hell, but our current situations, despite the fact that he may not actually remove our struggles entirely.

Jesus talked about hell and repenting, very sternly in fact. But he also spoke in a comforting manner when needed. He rebuked the pharisees, but also comforted the adultress. Both situations were out of compassion.
 
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For God so loved the world... that whosoever believed in him would not perish but come to ever lasting life

God's intent is to save people.

I don't think thesunisout is suggesting that it is. Jesus himself, though, tells us that the route to life through salvation is a "narrow way" and "few there be that find it." (Matt. 7:14)
Alvis gave a warning that Christianity would be rejected in mass and losing an important struggle with the world.

Thesun responded effectively making that excusable by giving examples of the gospel being rejected.

My response was that this approach is actually contrary to the gospel itself, the gospel is supposed to save people, it is a message to the lost to save them. I am not saying people do not reject it or that this rejection should never happen, my point was making the gospel being rejected a core theme of our actions is not appropriate because it makes our message something that isn't actually supposed to save people. Heaven forbid that actually become a goal or standard, because that is not the desire, God's desire is that people be saved.
This is essentially what Jesus said. Would you correct the Saviour himself?
I don't think he said that at all. Saying it would be rejected and saying that's just what's supposed to happen, that it isn't actually supposed to be received aren't the same.

My saying not to accept the lost be destroyed and not to accept this gospel not being useful to the people it was provided to isn't sugar coating anything.

Paul didn't go out and get stoned, drowned, beaten, bitten, torn, imprisoned and killed on a mission to just educate people but without the intention of actually being believed. Paul intended to make converts, that was his goal, so the gospel being rejected in mass IS NOT A GOOD THING!
 
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Paul lectured the Roman church on their failures in Romans 2 and he ended this lecture with the statement

The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you!
This was Paul saying they were wrong and that their wrongs were causing the gentiles to reject Christ, so no... Christ being rejected is not an appropriate motivation or theme, it's not something you just accept. It happens but as in seen in Romans 2, it was the Christians fault and it was not excusable.
 
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I am in need of some help...my son just told me that he is bisexual, last night and that he knows this is something God does not approve of, he was tearful and told me he does not want this but that he has feelings for a boy at school and that boy also admitted to having feeling for him. I am so scared I dont want my son to find liking to the same sex, he says he has prayed for this to go away but he still is having these feelings. As a parent I love him and cannot judge him but at the same time this is something I do not want for my child. I told him that he needs to stay away from this boy to fight the temptation of being close to him but again he says he has feelings for this boy and he said he will think about it. What can I do? He is young and has never had any type of relationship if possible I want to help him before he starts experiencing with boys. PLEASE HELP!!!

Love him; don't take it out on your son. He is a victim also. The devil is the one to be mad at as he brought this about. This may be your call to come out of your slumber and realize you are in a spiritual war that you didn't want and didn't prepare for. If you have to get some instruction in spiritual war, then get it. The devil has already been defeated at the cross but we have to enforce it in our lives. We have been given all the tools for victory in any situation, including your own. So resolve to take back what you have ceded to Satan. Rejoice that someday in the future your son will be free of this bondage.
 
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My only point was that the gospel is supposed to be received, that's it's purpose, not to be rejected. It's not a justification for people being destroyed. Majoring on it not being... is the wrong direction.

It's not appropriate to say "it's ok if the gospel offends many, Jesus said it would". The purpose of the gospel... is to be received.

I think you missed my point, which was that most of what is preached today isn't actually the gospel. The true gospel will offend people:

Galatians 5:11 But if I, brothers, still preach circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed.

Paul was being persecuted for the gospels sake, as Jesus told us that Christians would be. What does that mean to you? You live, I am assuming, in a western country where people don't normally want to murder you for preaching the gospel, but that isn't true for other parts of the world, like the middle east. A day doesn't go by that you don't read something about Christians being persecuted, tortured, or outright murdered for their faith. Over 200 thousand people were martyred last year for their faith. In America we think Christianity is a social club but in other parts of the world to choose Christ means to be ostracized by your family and culture and be persecuted everywhere you go. Western Christians don't typically count the cost because they have nothing to lose.

Yes, the gospel is meant to be received, but most people won't receive it. Why is that?

John 3:19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.
John 3:20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.

I'm not really sure what your argument is. If people aren't getting offended, according to the word of God, it's not the gospel. We should be showing the love of Christ at all times, but if we are preaching the gospel people will be offended.
 
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My response was that this approach is actually contrary to the gospel itself, the gospel is supposed to save people, it is a message to the lost to save them. I am not saying people do not reject it or that this rejection should never happen, my point was making the gospel being rejected a core theme of our actions is not appropriate because it makes our message something that isn't actually supposed to save people. Heaven forbid that actually become a goal or standard, because that is not the desire, God's desire is that people be saved.

Thanks for the clarification, Onthehorizon. I agree with you.

Selah.
 
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Trials like this will sometimes afflict us, trials in this manner that try to persuade us from the truth and attempt to dislodge our faith and beliefs.

You are correct that the action and feelings are not acceptable. I would advise to pray to the heavenly father in the name of his son JESUS for your sons deliverance from the enemy. The possibility of witchcraft being involved should never be overlooked. Other avenues is for both of you to pray together in the name of JESUS the son of GOD for deliverance from the enemy and then enemies schemes.

It is apparent that your son if he was telling the truth is repentant and understands that it is wrong. This is the resilience of the spirit identifying to him the error so to speak. Like a early warning/detection system. Now it is upto him with your help and strength to overcome it. This is the duty of a parent to love their children.

If it is possible I would move your child from the equation, if it saves him............

Matthew 5:29-30

English Standard Version (ESV)

29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.


The answers are there if you only let GOD and his son JESUS in to help. They have done so much for us. We are children and need aid and guidance and JESUS is the....

John 14:6

New International Version (NIV)

6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.


Praise be to GOD the father in heaven and his son lord JESUS CHRIST forever>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
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