No, if it had been evolution then the eye would not quite be what the organism needed for its particular ecological niche since it would be in the process of transitioning.I love this because you are so painfully close to describing evolution here.
We inherited the DNA of the great apes from the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were NOT Humans (descendants of Adam). The sons of God married and produced hybrid humans Gen 10:10 with the superior intelligence they inherited from Adam AND the DNA of prehistoric people. The prehistoric people could have children with Humans even though they were NOT Humans. Gen 6:4 They were THEIR kind or the kind the Trinity created from water. Gen 1:21 Humans are HIS kind or the kind Jesus (Lord God) made with His own Hands from the dust of the ground. Gen 2:7 In this manner God has produced some 7.4 Billion living Humans alive today, when there was only 1 Million prehistoric people alive, when the Ark arrived. It's all a part of God's perfect plan for filling Heaven with perfect Humans, made perfect in Christ. God Bless you
No, if it had been evolution then the eye would not quite be what the organism needed for its particular ecological niche since it would be in the process of transitioning.
FYI, Many of the things i post happened long ago, BEFORE education and science made their discoveries. I have posted God's Truth which AGREES with Science and History and you have NOT offered ANY evidence except your own personal opinion that I'm wrong. You have dismissed my evidence on a Christian board by claiming tht God's Truth is NOT evidence. Get real.
That's it. i'm convinced.
You haven't provided a shred of evidence, you've provided claims and bible verses that have been reinterpreted to mean what you want them to mean.
Empty claims and snippets out of a book are not evidence.
Causality is a corollary of the law of contradiction. And it is a law of logic itself according to "Aristotle: Selections" edited by W. D. Ross.Ed1wolf said: ↑
So you don't consider Aristotle a reputable source for the laws of logic?
de: Aristotle's laws of logic are:
1) Law of Contradiction
2) Law of Excluded Middle
3) Principle of Identity
The "law of causality" is not one of Aristotle's three laws. So, try again.
This is just one thread of many more threads of evidence as I have explained.ed: Not hardly near the amount of evidence. Besides the millions of people who claim to have had a relationship with Him,
1) Fallacious appeal to popularity.
2) You're ignoring the multitude of other gods that people have claimed to have a relationship with as well, but you don't believe exist.
Read the Bible. They have been shown to be accurate thru many archaeological discoveries. I am not saying I can PROVE it. My point is just that there is historical evidence for the Christian God.ed: there is also ancient historical documents that were written close to the time of events that could only have been accomplished by a being such as God.
de: Such as? And how do you verify and prove those writings?
Fraid so. And the majority of scholars believe He existed. Besides Josephus and others, there is also I Corinthians 15:3-5, where Paul quotes a Pre-Pauline (and therefore independent of the NT) hymn that many scholars believe was composed within 5 years of the resurrection.ed: And also there is historical evidence that a man claiming to be that Gods son was killed and rose bodily from the dead.
de: 1) No there isn't. In fact we have no independent contemporary evidence that shows he existed at all.
de: Quite often the religious morality is the viewpoint a society has to be dragged kicking and screaming away from in order to advance into a more civilized society. While no system is perfect, I'd take secular morality over religious morality any day.
de: Sometimes popularity is correct, however something is not correct because it is popular. You're saying the fact a lot of people believe something is evidence that it's true, it's not.
98% of scientists accept climate change because there's an overwhelming preponderance of evidence showing the climate is changing. When a huge majority of people who are experts in a field and are familiar with the evidence agree, that doesn't make them right, however it does provide reason to accept the claim pending further evidence.
de: The bible makes no claims about an expanding universe or one that is cooling. And yes, I know you're going to link some reinterpreted bible verses to support your case, and don't bother. I've heard that one before, and those verses don't say anything of the sort.
de: The evidence is right there for you to see, if you want to dismiss it because it counters your beliefs, that's your prerogative.
de: Asserting intent is meaningless when you haven't demonstrated the being in question actually exists, much less what he wants to do.
Not sure what you mean, checkmate, atheists? please explain. Thank you.Checkmate, atheists.
Not sure what you mean, checkmate, atheists? please explain. Thank you.
Is it possible that a Superior Being created the eye for each animal just the way it is, without evolving from something simpler. Since you are willing to say that the intermediary eyes in the video is good enough for what they need, so they need not evolve anymore, can there be any room for creation for an exact purpose rather than evolution?Because, again, you're looking at it as an end goal when it's not. If their current eyes are good enough for their purposes, there's no pressure to evolve better eyes.
Likewsie, there's a lot more that goes into a species than how good their eyes are. Just because they see very well doesn't mean they're going to dominate the world.... The fact you have to overblow everything as you are shows you don't have much of a defense. This is a simple process for which we have mountains of evidence. We know it happened, and how it happened. Deal with it.
Thank you for the movie, I love this show. Maybe not checkmate, but further discussion is worth our time, hope you continue to contribute.
Your speculation and evolutionary theory is irrevelent, I want hard fast evidence. This must be a simple task because just above you say we have mountains of evidence. We know it happened, and how it happened. So tell me, with evidence in hand, how it happened with the squid, or any other animal of your choosing. Start at the beginning and bring us through to today. The eye is a good test case. Good luck.
They are when NO one can refute them Scripturally, scientifically or historically. I can refute yours in every way, but you cannot refute a single jot nor tittle of God's Truth, which AGREES in every way with every other discovered Truth. Please continue to try and everyone will see your frustration and they will come to know God's Truth MUST agree with every other discovered Truth or it is NOT God's Truth. God Bless you
That is your argument, read a textbook? You might as well read a comic book, it is so short of evidence and logic.Humans are apes. Read a biology textbook sometime.
Causality is a corollary of the law of contradiction. And it is a law of logic itself according to "Aristotle: Selections" edited by W. D. Ross.
This is just one thread of many more threads of evidence as I have explained.
Read the Bible. They have been shown to be accurate thru many archaeological discoveries. I am not saying I can PROVE it. My point is just that there is historical evidence for the Christian God.
Fraid so. And the majority of scholars believe He existed. Besides Josephus and others, there is also I Corinthians 15:3-5, where Paul quotes a Pre-Pauline (and therefore independent of the NT) hymn that many scholars believe was composed within 5 years of the resurrection.
It is interesting to try to reconcile the bible with science. We do not tailor the bible to say what modern day scientists have discovered, mainly because what they discover today will be completely overturned tommorrow and replaced with another theory.There are plenty of things the bible has clearly wrong, there are some things the bible has right, and there's a mountain of things you can interpret the bible to mean by using language gymnastics.
Just because you can pull a snippet out of the bible and twist it to somehow show some dubious correlation to modern science, doesn't mean the bible is anything special. If the bible was special, we'd have known about those things thousands of years ago, rather than tailoring the bible to say what modern day scientists have discovered.
I am unaware of Adam living before the big bang of our cosmos, until the 6th day when he and Eve were born again Spiritually. Does the bible actually say the Adam live for more than 10 Billion years before the last universal common ancestor appeared in the water on planet earth (Genesis 5:1-2???) Genesis 5:1-2 talk about the generations of Adam and that he lived about 800 years. Not sure what you are saying here?Dogma Hunter finds the above funny. I suppose he doesn't know that Adam was made to live forever and he lived from BEFORE the big bang of our cosmos until the 6th Day when he and Eve were born again Spiritually. Gen 5:1-2 Adam lived for more than 10 Billion years BEFORE the last universal common ancestor appeared in the water on Planet Earth. Wonder if Dogma is also unaware that Christians will REGAIN our perfect bodies and that we will live FOREVER in Heaven with Jesus?
We (humans?) inherited the DNA of the great apes from the sons of God (prehistoric people). So are you saying that we humans evolved from the great apes?????We inherited the DNA of the great apes from the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were NOT Humans (descendants of Adam). The sons of God married and produced hybrid humans Gen 10:10 with the superior intelligence they inherited from Adam AND the DNA of prehistoric people. The prehistoric people could have children with Humans even though they were NOT Humans. Gen 6:4 They were THEIR kind or the kind the Trinity created from water. Gen 1:21 Humans are HIS kind or the kind Jesus (Lord God) made with His own Hands from the dust of the ground. Gen 2:7 In this manner God has produced some 7.4 Billion living Humans alive today, when there was only 1 Million prehistoric people alive, when the Ark arrived. It's all a part of God's perfect plan for filling Heaven with perfect Humans, made perfect in Christ. God Bless you
That is true of most religions but not Christianity and Christian morality. As I stated before Western Civilization was primarily founded on Christian moral principles. Principles such as those in the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights of the US.
While Europe has become more secular it still borrows from its Christian past on many of these principles, though in the areas of free speech, the right to life for humans of all ages including the extremely young, and property rights, they have weakened and started to abandon these.
This can also be seen happening in the US especially in the more secular Democratic party. They have started to limit free speech especially on college campuses, and freedom of religion was starting to be restricted under the Obama Administration.
And of course, the right of life of the unborn. Purely secular countries like the early French Republic, Nazi Germany, and all the Communist countries have much less freedoms and treat life much more cheaply than nations who were founded on Christian principles.
Well, that may not be the best analogy. A better analogy would be a case where there are two email addresses, one has 2000 emails in it, the other has only one. Which one is most likely to a real person with an email account?
Fraid so, if you look at the passages in the original Greek and Hebrew and also with the understanding that God has revealed some of His truths in His other book, Nature, it can be shown quite easily that the Bible DOES teach these things about the universe they are plainly within the meanings of the greek and Hebrew.
Only highly speculative evidence, he did not present a single piece of empirically observed evidence of these changes or even any process that could cause these huge changes.
How do archaeologists determine that a human made the scraper rock or an arrowhead and they are not just naturally made rocks shaped by natural processes.
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