How Dangerous Was The Covid - 19 Vaccine

[Larniavc]

As A biochemist who retired and was making vaccines and what we called experimental gene therapies ( mRNA vaccines) I can tell you these mRNA vaccines first of all do not work well. their mode of action is very different from normal vaccines;

why these mRNA vaccines are dangerous? I will just enumerate the a few points for the
covid 19 ""vaccine "" that is in reality an experimental gene therapy;

1- the mRNA encoding the spike protein, This protein if now known to be toxic for cells, the main point if that it encodes for prions among other things

2- the delivery method is as follows, the mRNA and all the contaminants from the vaccines production from cancereous cells are encapsulated in a special envelope ( LNP) these lipid nano particles were made to be charged slightly positively and bind weakly with any cells they touch, after being injected, the particles get to the blood where they reach ALL organs of the body, and penetrate cells mainly by the capillary of bodily organs, this was proven by pzfizer itself in bio distribution studies done in japan before the release of the vaccine. Later this was confirmed by immunohistochemistry as they found the spike protein in many organs ( heart, pancreas, lung, liver, brain, heart ect...)

3- when normal cells are infected with a protein ( virus spike protein made by the mRNA, that does not belong there, the immune system does see it eventially as the spike protein being made in all the cells of the boby start to accumnlate because of overproduction they then start to be excreted by the affected cells and are present in the surface of the cells and are seen as a danger to the immune system, this lead to auto immune diseases...


I can continue for several pages but i will finish here with an example, all the news about sudden death in young athletes ( very rarely happenned before the vaccine and were mostly due to heart defects) are because the heart made this spike protein and was seen by the immune system of youg adults predominantly because the young have a stronger immune system than older adults. biopsy samples of these hearts were proven to contain spike protein ( it does not belong there at all and shoukd not be there at all ) it means the immune sustem attacked the meart cells infectsd and killed these cells leafinf to fibrous tissue in the heart reducing severely it's efficiency unto death under high stress as the heart does not function properly.

I read this with some trepidation.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844025005791

But the conclusions seem vague and Helyion isn’t exactly the bee’s knees so who knows.

 

[Nithavela]

I can continue for several pages but i will finish here with an example, all the news about sudden death in young athletes ( very rarely happenned before the vaccine and were mostly due to heart defects) are because the heart made this spike protein and was seen by the immune system of youg adults predominantly because the young have a stronger immune system than older adults. biopsy samples of these hearts were proven to contain spike protein ( it does not belong there at all and shoukd not be there at all ) it means the immune sustem attacked the meart cells infectsd and killed these cells leafinf to fibrous tissue in the heart reducing severely it's efficiency unto death under high stress as the heart does not function properly.

Can you show that there was an actual increase in the number of those events?

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

I read this with some trepidation.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844025005791

But the conclusions seem vague and Helyion isn’t exactly the bee’s knees so who knows.

what I can tell you is that the mRNA uses for the covid vaccine is a synthetic one, they modified one of the bases to something else, ( I cant remember which one) so this MRNA iS NOT NATURAL they did this as it permits for the cell to make a larger number of the spike protein, normally mRNA will degrade after a few copies are made but not with this synthetic mRNA, the estimates are that at least 2000 copies or much more of the spike protein being produces in each cells. What they did was criminal as this spike protein is toxic. furthermore, these modified bases are nor read correctly by the molecular mechanisms in place in the cells and this unfortunately generates errors tin the the produced spike protein this augments the probability of having misfolded protein and could augment the prions produced dangereosity levels. Really en evil method to kill someone slowly with no one noticing since it takes years to kill....

EVIL

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Can you show that there was an actual increase in the number of those events?

I think you can find this info on the web.

 

[Nithavela]

I think you can find this info on the web.

I tried, but I only got a few studies that said there was no significant increase. So perhaps you can supply some evidence to your claim?

Athlete deaths during the COVID-19 vaccination campaign: contextualisation of online information

Background and aim Lay people and medical professionals have suggested a link between (mRNA) COVID-19 vaccination and a purported increase in sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) and death (SCD) among athletes. We aimed to compare the athlete death rate in 2021-2022 with pre-pandemic estimates and...

www.medrxiv.org

New data: Early fears that COVID raises risk of sudden cardiac events in athletes unfounded

www.cidrap.umn.edu

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

I tried, but I only got a few studies that said there was no significant increase. So perhaps you can supply some evidence to your claim?

Athlete deaths during the COVID-19 vaccination campaign: contextualisation of online information

Background and aim Lay people and medical professionals have suggested a link between (mRNA) COVID-19 vaccination and a purported increase in sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) and death (SCD) among athletes. We aimed to compare the athlete death rate in 2021-2022 with pre-pandemic estimates and...

www.medrxiv.org

New data: Early fears that COVID raises risk of sudden cardiac events in athletes unfounded

www.cidrap.umn.edu

i will try to find, the articles I found about 2 years ago did not have statistics but rather proof of spike protein in the heart where is does not belong also with evidence of heart damage ill get back to you.

 

[Laodicean60]

normally mRNA will degrade after a few copies are made but not with this synthetic mRNA

I heard something about this causing chronic inflammation and a hyper-immune response. I could be wrong.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

I tried, but I only got a few studies that said there was no significant increase. So perhaps you can supply some evidence to your claim?

Athlete deaths during the COVID-19 vaccination campaign: contextualisation of online information

Background and aim Lay people and medical professionals have suggested a link between (mRNA) COVID-19 vaccination and a purported increase in sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) and death (SCD) among athletes. We aimed to compare the athlete death rate in 2021-2022 with pre-pandemic estimates and...

www.medrxiv.org

New data: Early fears that COVID raises risk of sudden cardiac events in athletes unfounded

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Young Men's Myocarditis Risk 5 Times Higher With Moderna vs Pfizer Vax

But Canadian study finds that 8-week interval before second dose attenuates some of the risk

www.medpagetoday.com

A multiprovincial retrospective analysis of the incidence of myocarditis or pericarditis after mRNA vaccination compared to the incidence after SARS-CoV-2 infection - PMC

To compare myocarditis/pericarditis risk after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination versus SARS-CoV-2 infection, and to assess if myocarditis/pericarditis risk varies by vaccine dosing interval. In this retrospective cohort study, we used linked databases in ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Temporal relationship of myocarditis and pericarditis following COVID-19 vaccination: A pragmatic approach - PMC

Complications following COVID-19 vaccination, particularly with mRNA vaccines, rarely include myocarditis and pericarditis. This work principally aimed at defining a realistic temporal relationship between vaccination and myocarditis/pericarditis ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

the last one shows something happening

Note: if you contradict the narrative that covid vaccines are safe and effective then you lost your jobs and grants, just take this in consideration when you read anything about covid, I noted also that those who spoke against it with proof in hand are retired professors or ending their careers they dont care is thy lose their jobs.

Many articles in journals were redacted. also why? the threat of trillions of dollars of lawsuits!

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

I heard something about this causing chronic inflammation and a hyper-immune response. I could be wrong.

no you are not wrong

 

[Nithavela]

Young Men's Myocarditis Risk 5 Times Higher With Moderna vs Pfizer Vax

But Canadian study finds that 8-week interval before second dose attenuates some of the risk

www.medpagetoday.com

A multiprovincial retrospective analysis of the incidence of myocarditis or pericarditis after mRNA vaccination compared to the incidence after SARS-CoV-2 infection - PMC

To compare myocarditis/pericarditis risk after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination versus SARS-CoV-2 infection, and to assess if myocarditis/pericarditis risk varies by vaccine dosing interval. In this retrospective cohort study, we used linked databases in ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Temporal relationship of myocarditis and pericarditis following COVID-19 vaccination: A pragmatic approach - PMC

Complications following COVID-19 vaccination, particularly with mRNA vaccines, rarely include myocarditis and pericarditis. This work principally aimed at defining a realistic temporal relationship between vaccination and myocarditis/pericarditis ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

the last one shows something happening

Can't see much about deaths in sports in your links. Could you point it out for me?

Note: if you contradict the narrative that covid vaccines are safe and effective then you lost your jobs and grants, just take this in consideration when you read anything about covid, I noted also that those who spoke against it with proof in hand are retired professors or ending their careers they dont care is thy lose their jobs.

Many articles in journals were redacted. also why? the threat of trillions of dollars of lawsuits!

It's 2025 and there is a vaccination sceptic leading the US health department. There is a study on a link between autism and vaccinations in the works. Your "they'll lose grants if they voice vaccine scepticism" argument holds no water today.

 

[bniffty24]

It's 2025 and there is a vaccination sceptic leading the US health department.

Yes , interesting isn't it. I wonder what he will do , and I wonder what he will find.
Only time will tell I guess.

 

[bniffty24]

I know, how Orwellian is this ?

It doesn't get any more Orwellian than this.
These two guys getting beat up by the cops were earlier involved in a protest against the vaccine mandates , and our Gov decided to hunt down all those who protested against them. The cops drove around the city looking for and shooting and bashing any protestors they found as an example to others.

Australian Police Brutality for Your Health

No free speech , no free will or choice , you vill do as vee say!

 

[Nithavela]

Yes , interesting isn't it. I wonder what he will do , and I wonder what he will find.
Only time will tell I guess.

At the moment he's telling people to take an overdose of vitamins to combat measles.

 

[Lost4words]

why were the jabs so dangerous & what was the ingredients in the vile to cause so many to become sick or even die ?


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We were just mean't to accept these shots without question.
I personally didn't take it for many reasons & I'm glad I never took it after hearing the many horror stories from people around the world.

I was taken to the vet get a shot but refused....

 

[NxNW]

Covid was nothing more than a bad dose of the flu & it was exaggerated out of all proportion.

It killed a half dozen people I knew. I don't know anyone who died of influenza.

 

[NxNW]

Govs panicked and rushed out a vaccine to combat this virus only to find that it too was now killing and harming people.

The vaccine has harmed very very few people, which is in line with its expected performance.

This knowledge of how harmful the vaccine has been and still is is not lost to anybody , if it is , then it is only lost to those who block their ears or refuse to believe. My guess is they took the vax and are now in fear.

I've had several Covid vaccinations over the years and I'm fine. I had blood work done recently and all my numbers were healthy. Every one of them.

This is what one of our politicians had to say about the horrific side effects of the vax. And one of his complaints is why isn't the Government looking into this ?

There is nothing to look into.

 

[NxNW]

Unvaccinated people have reported the same , nothing more that a bad cold.

Covid killed about 2% of those infected, and put many more in the ICU.

Although your not alone in your thinking David , a lot of vaccinated people think as you do , they believe the vaccine helped in some way.

Almost nobody who was vaccinated ended up dying or in the ICU.

And if that is so , then how do we explain the unvaccinated reporting the same symptoms.

The difference is the outcome, not the symptoms.

 

[NxNW]

Well they did give us a little incentive to help in our decision making process , they put a gun to our head and said take this or loose your job.

This never happened.

Nothing draconian about that , after all , we had to save the inhabitants of planet earth from total obliteration.

Some people care about saving lives, while others only pretend to.

 

[Larniavc]

I've had several Covid vaccinations over the years and I'm fine. I had blood work done recently and all my numbers were healthy. Every one of them.

Me too. I had old man blood tests and it came back within the normal range.

Apart from bp and cholesterol so it’s seeds, exercise and no booze for me forever

 

[Tuur]

Okay, this will likely tick off everyone. I kind of want to vent about this, anyway.

1. Doctors know what’s in vaccines. You can, too. The ingredients in the COVID vaccines, at least in the US, are known, listed, and easy to find.

2. All vaccines are known to produce reactions, sometimes serious. For most the risk is slight, and for all vaccination programs the risk of reactions is offset by the risk of mortality from the disease itself.

3. Some reported serious side effects of the COVID vaccine were also reported from the disease itself. That has me thinking both are related to immune system response. So it could be get the vaccine and risk the reaction or get COVID and risk the same reaction.

4. Some vaccines seemed to have higher incidents of reaction, but also had a higher percentage of the spike protein than others. Check out the studies of the time. This led to some, but not all, vaccines being curtailed in some countries.

FWIW, I’m one of those who doesn’t have a reaction other than a sore arm. It makes my wife feel tired and have a low grade fever. I know someone who had a reaction so strong that they won’t take it again.

5. The initial mortality estimates were staggering. This was a virus humanity hadn’t seen before and we were in uncharted territory. I did a back-of-the-envelope estimate at the start of the pandemic, basing it on the Spanish Flu pandemic, and it was sobering. OTOH, there was that case of COVID on that cruise ship, and that seemed hopeful.

6. The first vaccine, when COVID was rougher, does seem to have saved lives. I knew someone who worked in gathering health information and had heard enough to trust their numbers. What convinced me and my wife to get the vaccine was that there was a significant drop in mortality from COVID in our demographic among the vaccinated as compared to the vaccinated. Given my reaction to Omicron, and our reaction to the strain last year, maybe we wouldn’t have died from it, anyway, but why roll that dice? The risk of death was higher than the risk of an adverse reaction.

FWIW, when I had Omicron, the vaccine was still for the first strain. The doctor who saw me was skeptical about how well it protected from Omicron, as it hadn’t been updated. The current vaccine, like the annual flu vaccine, is updated to the current strains.

I got an updated vaccine in the fall last year because I didn’t like the taste the medication left in my mouth; wanted to see if I’d have a reaction this time (I didn’t); and wanted to see if it gave me protection (it seems to have). The issue of reaction was to see what it would do before my wife took it. Interestingly, she had the same mild reaction that she did after getting the initial second shot.

7. Yes, the virus has mutated to milder strains. What it is now isn’t what it was initially. But when my wife and I last had it last year, she was in an examination room across the hall from a woman who also had it, and that poor woman had breathing difficulties, apparently from the virus. We were almost asymptomatic.

FWIW, I know some who died who had pre-existing conditions. I don’t know if they would have died had they contracted the flu but they did catch COVID and die. One of them was an aunt in hospice. OTOH, another aunt, close to 100, contracted it and it didn’t do her worse than a cold. For that matter, I knew a man younger than myself and who was in better health, but died from the flu. Everyone’s different.

8. When I had Omicron, the doctor, while weaning an N95 mask, hinted at some things that some have dismissed as possible treatments. I turned down a proven treatment at the time on the grounds that the availability was limited, my symptoms weren’t severe, and there were those who needed it worse than me. Still wouldn’t try some of the things recommended then, but keep in mind that now there’s medication that can be prescribed for it. Had we had the now common treatment for COVID, I think he would have gone with that.

Note: When the pandemic started, bought an oxygen meter. Have used it with both bouts of COVID, as did my wife. Our oxygen levels never dropped. That can happen with COVID.

9. I suspect what we weren’t told was that the quick test available at the time wasn’t necessarily reliable, which is why even those who recovered from COVID were told to get the vaccine. That had me speculating that maybe some who were thought to have had COVID didn’t and some who did weren’t diagnosed with it. Just speculation on my part.

10. The US response was “eat up” with politics. Some of it was a reflexive falling back on what was done in a natural disaster but which in some cases were redundant or not needed. One municipality banned large gatherings, which it also did during the Spanish Flu, but also enacted a curfew. There were no reports of COVID viruses arrested for being out after hours.

The CDC first advised not masking, not only because of the limited supply, but also because people wouldn’t handle them properly. That’s washing hands or using hand sanitizer before putting them on, fitting them properly, then leaving them alone and not constantly fiddling with them. The initial thought of the CDC was that people would have a higher risk of bringing contaminated hands to the nose and eye area and in improperly wearing masks. Then, after public and political outcry, the CDC reversed itself and recommended masking. At the time I anticipated a public health campaign stressing how to properly wear and handle masks. Saw some online, but no TV spots or posters. So it was that we had people wearing masks with their noses uncovered and people constantly fiddling with the things, or laying them down on surfaces, and sometimes putting them back on.

Large gatherings tended to spread the virus. Albany, Georgia, had an early outbreak tied to one, possibly, two, funerals. But some large gatherings were encouraged while others were frowned upon. Would’t you know it: those encouraged tended to be “liberal” and those frowned upon tended to be conservative. Curious thing, that.

The same with what was deemed “missinformation.” Odd thing: what was deemed “missinformation” seemed to depend more on who said something than what was actually said. On occasion, what was actually said was distorted at least once. That was curious, too.

Lest we forget, thinking for yourself was discouraged and mocked. Any official pronouncement was called “following the science” even as the science was changing. Such as the spread of COVID in NY City despite the shutdowns, likely due to transportation and people buying necessities. That tended to be ignored. Anyone who said “Wait a minute” and pointed such out was castigated as spreading “missinformation.” The real thing going on was daring to question authority, and authority didn’t like that at all.

This lead to theater of the absurd situations such as church congregations prevented from driving to church and staying in their cars, listening to the sermon on a low wattage FM transmitter. That was because of the rule prohibiting large gatherings, even though worshipers were isolated. Was in a situation where I was with someone getting blood work and there was another person there, and all three of us were told to come inside. Then another nurse told us we had to go back out. Why? For a fever assessment. Let’s see...we had already been exposed to each other (while properly masked, of course), so there was no real point in making us go back out. Take our temperature there, and make sure new arrivals are assessed outside. But assessment outside was the rule, and following the rule was more important than common sense. We went out, was accessed there, then let back in, where we were before. Such were the times. But I guess it made the nurse happy.