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Prove it.
Finite and numbers are axioms which is the foundation that we used in everyday to day life.
I'm just curious.
I know theists assume their god is good, wrote/directly influenced the bible, talks to you, etc., but how would you know if your god was either evil or a trickster and lying?
This is the very essence of faith. Faith is not just believing that God exists. As James says, even the demons believe this and shudder. The demons do not believe that God is good. Anyone who has faith in a biblical sense believes not just that God exists, that he is trinity, that he inspired the holy scriptures, but also that he is good and trustworthy. Without this we would not believe at all.
So this is a premise that we embrace by faith. It is not known by us until we believe. The psalmist says: "taste and see that the Lord is good." And this is how we know. We have experienced his goodness.
Not what I asked. You are talking from a biased position; you believe what is said is true. This is circular reasoning (a use of reason in which the premises depends on or is equivalent to the conclusion).
How could you tell or determine that it is not?
In order to ask the question you have asked, you assume there is such a thing as evil. If you assume such a thing as evil, you assume that good exists from which evil is a departure. If you assume good and evil exist you assume a prescriptive standard or law according to which you determine what is evil and what is good. If you assume a prescriptive law, you assume a prescriptive law giver, for prescriptions can only come from prescribers. If you assume a prescriber you assume God.
So the question assumes God who by definition is good.
You haven't done much philosophy have you?
Yeah, no.
There's a whole list of fallacies there, but the most telling is the special pleading and circular logic in the last sentence.
So, without those fallacies, can you answer?
Refute the logic.
Try reading my post again a bit more carefully.
(Paraphrasing) "By definition God is good". You arrived there through circular logic.
I did?
So if I say a triangle by definition is a three-sided shape then that is circular logic?
I said "through", not "is".
So if I say a triangle by definition is a three-sided shape then that conclusion came "through" circular logic?
No, a "triangle" is a label for something; it had *no* properties, prior to being used as a word to describe a three-sided shape. There is no logic going on.
This "God" that is good, has assumed properties. You can't get to its properties, without using some circular reasoning.
Non sequitur said:I'm just curious.
I know theists assume their god is good, wrote/directly influenced the bible, talks to you, etc., but how would you know if your god was either evil or a trickster and lying?
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